Dude, scheduling has nothing to do with teams being scared of each other.
It's all about money first, recruiting 2nd, and strength of schedule a distant 3rd.
I'll use the Florida Gators as an example. Florida is forced to play 8 conference games like the rest of the country. But they also have FSU that they do a home and home with every year. That only leaves 3 games for Florida to fill up their schedule with for out of conference. Florida makes a ton of money on home games, money that helps the programs' facilities and the school's facilities first and foremost. Afterall, college is about learning and expanding your university. Most major schools dont want to just come to Florida, they want some money too and they want a ome and home. But with Florida's national reputation, the addition of a 9th conference game in a potential SEC Title game, and their annual home and home with FSU, plus a home and home with UM every few years, Florida leaves a ton of money on the table by not scheduling teams willing to come to UF and play at UF.
While a school like Ohio State, who is praised so gracefully for scheduling a USC, they have 3 out of conference home games already: Youngstown, Ohio and Troy. They have a 4th game that they can afford to be flexible with and schedule a home and home. That game for a school like Florida is used on an FSU and a Miami every few years. For Ohio State it is enter USC. In addition, they have NO conference championship game, so they have the option of making their schedule a little more difficult and schedule the 2nd difficult OOC like USC does since they dont have to play that Conference title game, or they can guarantee their funds and play the safe home game. They choose to play it safe this year. Not enough talent in Ohio alone for the Buckeyes, and that is why they recruit nationally and need to play the USCs of the world, just like Tennessee does.
When it comes to USC, they deserve all of the credit in the world. Because they are willing to sacrifice home money, in an effort to set up home and homes with Virginia, Ohio State and Notre Dame.
But that doesnt mean other teams are scared. USC needs to find teams like Notre Dame, and Ohio State that recruit nationally and have the additional game to schedule the home and home.
When in doubt Conan, look to the almighty dollar.
So then get your asses in gear and play out west for some of those big dollars. I doubt that the revenues for any big matchup out west would send any of you guys home broke. USC is a guaranteed 92000 sellout and 1/4 million dollar spot commercials on TV and everyone would be watching. UCLA netted over 80,000 fans. ASU will do the same. That's big enough money, way big considering that the ticket prices are higher across the board. I see no reason to keep dodging Pac-10 OOC games if money is at the heart of the issue. But let's face it. You don't play here vs any of the top teams (most of the time) because of the possibility of what happened to Tennessee. So it's with good cause that you keep on playing all of those D1-AA and Sun Belt teams. (The Pac is 10-5 vs SEC since '01.) Your paper thin image would creah and burn and then you'd have nothing left to brag about. The money angle doesn't hold water. Best to just play it safe.
I ignored your claim that USC couldn't beat an SEC team anywhere but at home. It wasn't worth bringing up again because it's aleady been proven once vs your "elite" Auburn team a few years ago. Nobody but Arky has had the gonads to even think of scheduling another home/home vs the Trojans.
By the way, did you notice that USC is now #1 in the polls this week?
So much for the Bulldogs claim to immorality... but they would have gone down sooner or later anyway. They might not even survive ASU. No need to react to that one... we'll get a RARE chance to see what one of your "elite" can REALLY do above and beyond all the bragging and bullshit for a change. Just keep in mind that they are playing one of the Pac-zero teams. (So far Pac-zero 1, SEC 0)
National Championship Games
Let's take the last 10 years of National Championship Games into consideration......since the objective of elite SEC / PAC-10 teams is to win this game.
SEC - 4 championships.....LSU (2), Florida (1), Tennessee (1)
Big-12 - 2 championships.....Oklahome (1), Texas (1)
Pac-10 - 1 championship.....USC
Big East - 1 championship......Miaimi (sinced moved to ACC)
Big Ten - 1 championship.....Ohio State
ACC - 1 championship.....Florida State
ENOUGH SAID...we see what level the Pac-10 is on :nohead:
Let's take the last 10 years of National Championship Games into consideration......since the objective of elite SEC / PAC-10 teams is to win this game.
SEC - 4 championships.....LSU (2), Florida (1), Tennessee (1)
Big-12 - 2 championships.....Oklahome (1), Texas (1)
Pac-10 - 1 championship.....USC
Big East - 1 championship......Miaimi (sinced moved to ACC)
Big Ten - 1 championship.....Ohio State
ACC - 1 championship.....Florida State
ENOUGH SAID...we see what level the Pac-10 is on :nohead:
'03 was a split NC between LSU and USC. The NCAA even says so. I'm sure you know better than them.
And whatever level that puts the Pac10 on, where does that put your overrated SEC if the Pac-10 has beaten them twice for every time they've lost to them since '01. The Pac-10 is 10-5 vs SEC since '01. So much for your logic. Typical SEC blowing smoke up everyone's ass. You are a mindless clone.
This is just terrible. I almost did not come back to the site after this game just so I did not have to see what you Pac-10 guys had to say abou tthis game. UCLA outplayed a UT team that had many struggles on offense. Tennessee defense played well and had 4 INTs. I'm sure the began to tire and began to lose confidence in the other side of the ball after forcing that many turnovers and coming up with nothing. It was a true struggle for Crompton to get anything going.
We averaged right around 6.5 yards per carry when we ran the ball yet we threw the ball 40 times this game. The offensive line did not give up a sack agains the heavy and powerful front four of UCLA. That is a good note I took out of this game, that and the fact that we averaged that many yards per carry.
The SEC will reign again as the best conference in the nation and I do not have a doubt about that. Tennessee did the exact same thing last year traveling over 2500 miles to lose to a California team that seemed OKAY at the time. I see the same thing happening this year. Another bad lose for the Vols, but I'm not sure UCLA has enough on their team to compete with the Pac 10 or in any other conference.
I might get my head chopped off for this statement, but I say if the Vols got them again... I think we might come away with the victory. A very good win for this UCLA team and I'm beginning to swallow this lose.
USC is great this year and Sanchez looked awesome, much better than the same year graduate of Crompton LOL. Let's see how it ends up. Shit, who knows, USC might just lose to Stanford again and we can all laugh LOL.
We averaged right around 6.5 yards per carry when we ran the ball yet we threw the ball 40 times this game. The offensive line did not give up a sack agains the heavy and powerful front four of UCLA. That is a good note I took out of this game, that and the fact that we averaged that many yards per carry.
The SEC will reign again as the best conference in the nation and I do not have a doubt about that. Tennessee did the exact same thing last year traveling over 2500 miles to lose to a California team that seemed OKAY at the time. I see the same thing happening this year. Another bad lose for the Vols, but I'm not sure UCLA has enough on their team to compete with the Pac 10 or in any other conference.
I might get my head chopped off for this statement, but I say if the Vols got them again... I think we might come away with the victory. A very good win for this UCLA team and I'm beginning to swallow this lose.
USC is great this year and Sanchez looked awesome, much better than the same year graduate of Crompton LOL. Let's see how it ends up. Shit, who knows, USC might just lose to Stanford again and we can all laugh LOL.
This is the common refrain from Pac-10 and USC fan who fails to acknowledge that ASU, CAL, OSU, Oregon, Stanford, Wash, Wash St, Zona, and UCLA amount to 9 byes for USC. While LSU, Georgia, and Florida, let alone Auburn, Ala, knock each other out of n.c contention, who is supposed to knock USC out. If they didn't schedule real teams out of conference, they would have 12 bye weeks. Can't blame SEC schools for scheduling breathers when their competition for the title game has 9 of them
Conan,
I'm almost positive that you know loses like this happen in football. Shit, it is football! If you line up and play harder then the other guy in front of you. You can win!!! I'm not sure if you have a football background as a player, but I'm sure you get this brother.
I would like to see what the other Pac-10 guys like UoD has to say or any other guy. I really didn't expect you to call the SEC ooverrated and start a rant quite like this LOL.
well shit, we know this won't happen will it conan. Cause as we have previously talked about on this board there is only a couple SEC teams that ever, and I mean ever leave the south east to play a football game. And after Tenn has lost the last 2 its played outside their little circle of football, (to average pac 10 teams by the way) I doubt they are in a hurry to schedule more games outside their timezone either. You see a football game is a little harder to win when you leave your small area of the country. Tenn knows this first hand. But at least they have the balls to play them.
I agree that what hurts the Pac-10 cred is the lack of consistent D. SC is the only team who plays it, or even seems to emphasize it. However, UCLA looks to be getting there, and watch out for Oregon, they're improving in that area rapidly. OSU has been underrated but looks to have fallen off a bit due to a basically new class. ASU, UW, and Wazzu haven't a clue. Zona and Stanford are wannabe's at best.
Anyone who claims top to bottom superiority over all of CFB when their teams play only 3-4 good teams per year (typically 1/2 at home), then 2 mediocre teams and the rest patsies (on purpose) every season, they are full of shit. Simple as that.
Because of their wussie OOC schedules, they are guaranteed at least an 8-4 record every season. More likely 9-3 or 10-2 if they can split the games vs their better opponents. That's absolute fake overrated bullshit. On top of that, they are the first to point out to you how many ranked teams they have to play. The same ranked teams that play 6 or 7 exceptionally easy games every year to contribute to thier rank.
Until the day comes when they (top to bottom) play all over the country like everyone else, and end up with the same records they have doing it the easy way, they are overrated. PERIOD. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why.
I'm fed up with it. I've never seen so many so-called champs in ANY sport do as much as the SEC does to dodge competition instead of taking on all comers. That's what champions are supposed to do in EVERY sport... except CFB in the south.
