Jlip9 -
Not a single ounce of intelligence in this thread.
It is so easy for the average bettor and fan to get real jacked up over one game. We've got people in here saying Alabama is the real deal after 1 game, although I definitely think they are improved. We have people saying UCLA is God. Pac-10 is better than SEC. Lot riding on these week 1 games apparently that is going to make people thin in the wallets when they start betting with their emotions.
Apparently the battle for Pac-10/SEC Supremacy was played last night and a handful of times when USC beat an Auburn team in 2002 and 2003 that lost 9 combined games. USC was 25-1 those 2 years with BCS Game victories, and would have beat anyone in the country and Auburn was 17-9 in those 2 years and could have lost to anyone at any time. Yet for some reason, that is what Pac-10 homers point to as some sort of ground-breaking victory? Granted USC beat up on Auburn pretty good 23-0 in 2003, but then again so did GA Tech 17-3, so did LSU 31-7, so did Georgia 26-7. Shit, Auburn lost to Ole Miss that year as well.
And talk about a sample size.
Then you have the SEC Homers that say USC would be middle of the pack in the SEC and thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. It's pretty easy to see that USC would be one of the elite 3 teams in the SEC year in and year out. It would be Florida, LSU and USC one year and Auburn, USC and Georgia the next and Florida, LSU, and Tennessee the next, but USC would consistently be in one of those elite 3 teams each year.
As for last night:
I'll tell you what, Tennessee is a terrible road football team and I thought that would change this year but it hasn't. They could have played sisters of the poor on the road and lost. Thats important to note moving forward because Tennessee's road record is now 2-5 I believe between last year and this year SU.
Although UCLA appears to be underrated as a football team, and they played way over their heads last night, Tennessee also handed them that game on a Silver Platter. You're up 14-7, driving it down their throats a chance to go up 21-7 and you fumble on the 4 yard line. Not to mention miss 3 or 4 field goals, and you don't block them up on a punt and get it blocked for a TD. Their outstanding secondary played exactly how they should have in the 1st half vs. a 3rd string QB, then backed off coverage and let them dink and dunk them to death on quick, safe passes and let that QB get some confidence and into a rhythm.
I also didnt stick with one of my golden rules of capping which is to fade a first time QB on the road. Crompton was awful last night, how many open receivers did he miss?
Neuheisel makes UCLA 1-2 wins better just by showing up on campus, and after that victory last night, I say he makes them 3-4 games better. I wouldnt go off overrating UCLA now and betting them every chance you get - they still have growing to do - but I'd bet on their defense playing at home.
I also wouldnt go off underratting Tennessee now, because they are a different home team than they are a road team. They put together some very good drives in that game, made some big defensive plays, and if UT punches it in to go up 21-7 and doesnt fumble and goes on to win, people would be saying same old UCLA and Tennessee is legit. And again, I would say you are overestimating UT now and underestimating UCLA.
All relevant info moving forward for point spreads and easy for everyone to get wrapped up in one emotional game.
Not a single ounce of intelligence in this thread.
It is so easy for the average bettor and fan to get real jacked up over one game. We've got people in here saying Alabama is the real deal after 1 game, although I definitely think they are improved. We have people saying UCLA is God. Pac-10 is better than SEC. Lot riding on these week 1 games apparently that is going to make people thin in the wallets when they start betting with their emotions.
Apparently the battle for Pac-10/SEC Supremacy was played last night and a handful of times when USC beat an Auburn team in 2002 and 2003 that lost 9 combined games. USC was 25-1 those 2 years with BCS Game victories, and would have beat anyone in the country and Auburn was 17-9 in those 2 years and could have lost to anyone at any time. Yet for some reason, that is what Pac-10 homers point to as some sort of ground-breaking victory? Granted USC beat up on Auburn pretty good 23-0 in 2003, but then again so did GA Tech 17-3, so did LSU 31-7, so did Georgia 26-7. Shit, Auburn lost to Ole Miss that year as well.
And talk about a sample size.
Then you have the SEC Homers that say USC would be middle of the pack in the SEC and thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. It's pretty easy to see that USC would be one of the elite 3 teams in the SEC year in and year out. It would be Florida, LSU and USC one year and Auburn, USC and Georgia the next and Florida, LSU, and Tennessee the next, but USC would consistently be in one of those elite 3 teams each year.
As for last night:
I'll tell you what, Tennessee is a terrible road football team and I thought that would change this year but it hasn't. They could have played sisters of the poor on the road and lost. Thats important to note moving forward because Tennessee's road record is now 2-5 I believe between last year and this year SU.
Although UCLA appears to be underrated as a football team, and they played way over their heads last night, Tennessee also handed them that game on a Silver Platter. You're up 14-7, driving it down their throats a chance to go up 21-7 and you fumble on the 4 yard line. Not to mention miss 3 or 4 field goals, and you don't block them up on a punt and get it blocked for a TD. Their outstanding secondary played exactly how they should have in the 1st half vs. a 3rd string QB, then backed off coverage and let them dink and dunk them to death on quick, safe passes and let that QB get some confidence and into a rhythm.
I also didnt stick with one of my golden rules of capping which is to fade a first time QB on the road. Crompton was awful last night, how many open receivers did he miss?
Neuheisel makes UCLA 1-2 wins better just by showing up on campus, and after that victory last night, I say he makes them 3-4 games better. I wouldnt go off overrating UCLA now and betting them every chance you get - they still have growing to do - but I'd bet on their defense playing at home.
I also wouldnt go off underratting Tennessee now, because they are a different home team than they are a road team. They put together some very good drives in that game, made some big defensive plays, and if UT punches it in to go up 21-7 and doesnt fumble and goes on to win, people would be saying same old UCLA and Tennessee is legit. And again, I would say you are overestimating UT now and underestimating UCLA.
All relevant info moving forward for point spreads and easy for everyone to get wrapped up in one emotional game.
lot of stupidity in this thread... last night was a rhetoric play pure and simple.... a public fade and an espn fade... ucla is going to be awful ats the rest of the season and tenn will turn it around... the sec will be back on top at the end of the season (except they're still not better than usc, that's just idiotic)... but for this one night you knew something was fishy and you just knew ucla was somehow going to pull it off
UT wouldn't make the top 4 if they played in the Pac-10
Every "elite" SEC team would get beat at least twice.
Middle of the Pac teams like UCLA, AZ, Oregon St., would beat an "elite" SEC team at least once (maybe twice) per year in conference play. ASU and Oregon could get 2 wins vs. the top 5 SEC teams on a yearly basis, more than that sometimes. No different than what they do to each other.
Every "elite" SEC team would get beat at least twice.
Middle of the Pac teams like UCLA, AZ, Oregon St., would beat an "elite" SEC team at least once (maybe twice) per year in conference play. ASU and Oregon could get 2 wins vs. the top 5 SEC teams on a yearly basis, more than that sometimes. No different than what they do to each other.
So Conan is in full celebratory mode after Tennessee gift-wrapped a home game to UCLA. You would think his team won the SuperBowl. Tennessee wins that game last night by 4 TDs at home. There isn't a single team not named USC that would finish in the top 5 in the SEC. Get over it. Neuheisel is a great freaking coach who should never have been jobless so long. Im happy for him. At least UCLA didn't rush the field like Oregon did last yr. UCLA will still be lucky to make the Sun Bowl or better and Tennessee beats them 8 out of 10 times. That's sports
