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Anyone who claims top to bottom superiority over all of CFB when their teams play only 3-4 good teams per year (typically 1/2 at home), then 2 mediocre teams and the rest patsies (on purpose) every season, they are full of shit. Simple as that. Because of their wussie OOC schedules, they are guaranteed at least an 8-4 record every season. More likely 9-3 or 10-2 if they can split the games vs their better opponents. That's absolute fake overrated bullshit. On top of that, they are the first to point out to you how many ranked teams they have to play. The same ranked teams that play 6 or 7 easy games every year to contribute to thier rank.

Until the day comes when they (top to bottom) play all over the country like everyone else, and end up with the same records they have doing it the easy way, they are overrated. PERIOD. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why.

I'm fed up with it. I've never seen so many so-called champs in ANY sport do as much as the SEC does to dodge competition instead of taking on all comers. That's what champions are supposed to do in EVERY sport... except CFB in the south.

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Anyone who claims top to bottom superiority over all of CFB when their teams play only 3-4 good teams per year (typically 1/2 at home), then 2 mediocre teams and the rest patsies (on purpose) every season, they are full of shit. Simple as that.

Because of their wussie OOC schedules, they are guaranteed at least an 8-4 record every season. More likely 9-3 or 10-2 if they can split the games vs their better opponents. That's absolute fake overrated bullshit. On top of that, they are the first to point out to you how many ranked teams they have to play. The same ranked teams that play 6 or 7 exceptionally easy games every year to contribute to thier rank.

Until the day comes when they (top to bottom) play all over the country like everyone else, and end up with the same records they have doing it the easy way, they are overrated. PERIOD. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why.

I'm fed up with it. I've never seen so many so-called champs in ANY sport do as much as the SEC does to dodge competition instead of taking on all comers. That's what champions are supposed to do in EVERY sport... except CFB in the south.
USC schedules some very good teams. Oregon brough Oklahoma into the picture too. Arizona State has invited the Bulldogs to their place this year. I get it, Pac-10 has large balls.

Until they do their job in conference, like USC losing to Stanford, then people are always going to throw the National Champion numbers in your face and honestly, I don't think there is much of a response you can say to that.

USC would beat Stanford 99 out of 100 times again and again. USC blew it last year brother and until they get that title back to the Pac-10. BECAUSE GOD HIMSELF KNOWS NO ONE ELSE IN THAT CONFERENCE CAN. They will be inferior. No questions asked.
 

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Who's been blowing smoke up your ass?

You are a total idiot if you don't know that the Pac-10 is 10-5 vs the SEC going back to 2001.

What proof do you have?

Maybe one day UM will give UF a rematch then you can prove something... maybe.


ok ok. Let's get it out in the open. Is the Pac-10 better than the SEC in your opinion? If you think they are, I am admitting you asap!
 

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Sharpest post in the thread.

When Tenn beats one of the top SEC teams later this year, what will their excuse be?



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College Football Live again and again states that the SEC is the best conference. They get paid to watch and talk this football! LOL
 

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ok ok. Let's get it out in the open. Is the Pac-10 better than the SEC in your opinion? If you think they are, I am admitting you asap!

I never said that. But the gap isn't as large as most who have swallowed a mouthful of SEC BS would lead you to believe. I have researched a lot more than I've let on here. Speed, size, defense... all of it.

I've said this before, the only thing that makes the SEC the top conference these days is the fact that there are 1 or 2 more good teams that play in that conference compared to the rest. But like I said, the difference is dwindling.
 

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Anyone who claims top to bottom superiority over all of CFB when their teams play only 3-4 good teams per year (typically 1/2 at home), then 2 mediocre teams and the rest patsies (on purpose) every season, they are full of shit. Simple as that.

Because of their wussie OOC schedules, they are guaranteed at least an 8-4 record every season. More likely 9-3 or 10-2 if they can split the games vs their better opponents. That's absolute fake overrated bullshit. On top of that, they are the first to point out to you how many ranked teams they have to play. The same ranked teams that play 6 or 7 exceptionally easy games every year to contribute to thier rank.

Until the day comes when they (top to bottom) play all over the country like everyone else, and end up with the same records they have doing it the easy way, they are overrated. PERIOD. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why.

I'm fed up with it. I've never seen so many so-called champs in ANY sport do as much as the SEC does to dodge competition instead of taking on all comers. That's what champions are supposed to do in EVERY sport... except CFB in the south.


you are a fawkin idiot, plain and simple. When you play in the SEC it would be MURDER for a Florida to schedule ohio state, usc, Ou, etc. We play in the SEC, we already play 2-3 TOP TEN teams a year and another 2-3 top 25 teams. SC has to schedule tough games b/c one the Pac-10 BLOWS and as a result of scheduling a tough OOC team they can still afford to lose one game and go to the NC. All I know is, put an SEC team in a game that matters(BCS and NC games) and the SEC doesn't lose!
 

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you are a fawkin idiot, plain and simple. When you play in the SEC it would be MURDER for a Florida to schedule ohio state, usc, Ou, etc. We play in the SEC, we already play 2-3 TOP TEN teams a year and another 2-3 top 25 teams. SC has to schedule tough games b/c one the Pac-10 BLOWS and as a result of scheduling a tough OOC team they can still afford to lose one game and go to the NC. All I know is, put an SEC team in a game that matters(BCS and NC games) and the SEC doesn't lose!
That was my next point.
 

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None of those teams will finish in the top 50 nationally in defense, and don't feed me the "high-powered" offense crap



More idiotic posts from you, without any facts. Typical.

Oregon St had one of the top defenses in the nation last year. I'm sure you already know how 2008 will play out, right?

Such a tool.
 

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I never said that. But the gap isn't as large as most who have swallowed a mouthful of SEC BS would lead you to believe. I have researched a lot more than I've let on here. Speed, size, defense... all of it.

I've said this before, the only thing that makes the SEC the top conference these days is the fact that there are 1 or 2 more good teams that play in that conference compared to the rest. But like I said, the difference is dwindling.


I agree with you. But, if you want to talk pure talent(forgive me if I sound like Ferris, where is he anyway? LOL) The SEC produces more 1st rounders than any other conference over the last 20 years.
 

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I never said that. But the gap isn't as large as most who have swallowed a mouthful of SEC BS would lead you to believe. I have researched a lot more than I've let on here. Speed, size, defense... all of it.

I've said this before, the only thing that makes the SEC the top conference these days is the fact that there are 1 or 2 more good teams that play in that conference compared to the rest. But like I said, the difference is dwindling.
The gap is not far, SEC still has the edge though.
 

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The gap is not far, SEC still has the edge though.

I think this is all us fans of other conferances want. Is for SEC homers to admit that while they may be better overall its not by much. I'm a big 10 guy and I'll be the first to admit the SEC is better. But some of the SEC fanatics act like Vandy would finish 2nd in the big 10. Fact is when you guys actually do get the balls to play another big BCS team you have about a .500 record. Check SEC vs. Pac 10 or SEC vs. Big 10 records this decade. They hardly show dominance.
 

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you are a fawkin idiot, plain and simple. When you play in the SEC it would be MURDER for a Florida to schedule ohio state, usc, Ou, etc. We play in the SEC, we already play 2-3 TOP TEN teams a year and another 2-3 top 25 teams. SC has to schedule tough games b/c one the Pac-10 BLOWS and as a result of scheduling a tough OOC team they can still afford to lose one game and go to the NC. All I know is, put an SEC team in a game that matters(BCS and NC games) and the SEC doesn't lose!

Don't you SEC guys get it?

You are full of excuses. You whine about the teams you have to play in conference instead of standing up to the competition and taking on all comers like championship teams should do.

Quit it with all the excuses and whining. Nobody but your own SEC alsorans sympathize with you. Just get your shit together and beat who you must beat and take on all comers the way ALL other conferences (esp the Pac-10) do. You already get 6 or 7 pushovers every year and your excuse is that you have to play 3 or 4 good games. That doesn't mean squat! Don't you get it?
 

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I think this is all us fans of other conferances want. Is for SEC homers to admit that while they may be better overall its not by much. I'm a big 10 guy and I'll be the first to admit the SEC is better. But some of the SEC fanatics act like Vandy would finish 2nd in the big 10. Fact is when you guys actually do get the balls to play another big BCS team you have about a .500 record. Check SEC vs. Pac 10 or SEC vs. Big 10 records this decade. They hardly show dominance.
Until the SEC is not putting up five of the top ten teams to start the season I'm sure that the SEC will begin to travel. Until then, I don't see a problem with playing Auburn, Florida, and Georgia.
 

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Don't you SEC guys get it?

You are full of excuses. You whine about the teams you have to play in conference instead of standing up to the competition and taking on all comers like championship teams should do.

Quit it with all the excuses and whining. Nobody but your own SEC alsorans sympathize with you. Just get your shit together and beat who you must beat and take on all comers the way ALL other conferences (esp the Pac-10) do. You already get 6 or 7 pushovers every year and your excuse is that you have to play 3 or 4 good games. That doesn't mean squat! Don't you get it?


Conan,

Start using words that most SEC fans can understand for starters. You lost half of 'em at the start of the second paragraph.
 

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you are a fawkin idiot, plain and simple. When you play in the SEC it would be MURDER for a Florida to schedule ohio state, usc, Ou, etc. We play in the SEC, we already play 2-3 TOP TEN teams a year and another 2-3 top 25 teams. SC has to schedule tough games b/c one the Pac-10 BLOWS and as a result of scheduling a tough OOC team they can still afford to lose one game and go to the NC. All I know is, put an SEC team in a game that matters(BCS and NC games) and the SEC doesn't lose!

Did you stop and think about the point he was trying to make before namecalling, or are you not capable of such a thing? The argument here is that the SEC has "2-3 TOP TEN teams" BECAUSE of their typical cupcake OOC scheduling, which of course pads their overall records and puts them at the top of rankings. Whereas the Pac-10 typically has FAR more difficult OOC schedules, not to mention each team plays one another each season in the Pac, which even further diminishes their overall records individually yielding fewer top-ranked teams. Until the SEC changes their OOC scheduling patterns, we won't know just how far the two conferences are separated.
 

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Don't you SEC guys get it?

You are full of excuses. You whine about the teams you have to play in conference instead of standing up to the competition and taking on all comers like championship teams should do.

Quit it with all the excuses and whining. Nobody but your own SEC alsorans sympathize with you. Just get your shit together and beat who you must beat and take on all comers the way ALL other conferences (esp the Pac-10) do. You already get 6 or 7 pushovers every year and your excuse is that you have to play 3 or 4 good games. That doesn't mean squat! Don't you get it?


Dude, look at the facts! If one team(ie UGA) is playing 5-7 teams in THE TOP 25... why the hell would they schedule somebody else? It's already unfair, look at OU's schedule, a Ron Zook coached UF team would go undefeated with that bullshit schedule. Why should OU ever go to the NC with such a bullshit schedule? Maybe this explains why they get blown up in BCS games, they play nobody all year and aren't battle tested when they get there. This is also why SEC reams are something like 12-4 in BCS games since it's inception, they are battle tested. Again, the SEC plays in the SEC and the best 2-3 teams that come out of there every year usually take care of business in the bowl games. The SEC is actually undefeated in NC games since the BCS implementation.
 

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I'm not saying they don't play anybody. I realize that Florida regularly plays Miami and FSU. All I'm saying is games are alot harder to win when you travel a few thousand miles. Tenn has realized this first hand in the last two years. Basically what I'm saying is teams in other conferances travel accross the country every year. Mich goes to Oregon, USC goes to OSU, OSU goes to USC, Texas goes to OSU. MSU goes to Cal, ILL goes to Mizzu. You rarely ever see a SEC team do this. Tenn has and they have lost to inferior opponents. Why do you thing teams like the Arizona Cardinals have a much better home record than road record. Because its a pain in the ass for teams to travel to Arizona for the weekend. UF literally havsn't played a game outside the southeast since the 1960's. Just saying it's a different world when you leave your timezone.
 

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Did you stop and think about the point he was trying to make before namecalling, or are you not capable of such a thing? The argument here is that the SEC has "2-3 TOP TEN teams" BECAUSE of their typical cupcake OOC scheduling, which of course pads their overall records and puts them at the top of rankings. Whereas the Pac-10 typically has FAR more difficult OOC schedules, not to mention each team plays one another each season in the Pac, which even further diminishes their overall records individually yielding fewer top-ranked teams. Until the SEC changes their OOC scheduling patterns, we won't know just how far the two conferences are separated.


yes, we do know... the SEC is something like 12-4 since the BCS inception in BCS games. Again, why the hell would LSU shedule SC or somebody like that when they play top 25 teams practically every week. The PAC has to schedule tough OOC games, the conference blows. I can't wait till UGA goes into Tempe! I really can't wait!
 

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I'm not saying they don't play anybody. I realize that Florida regularly plays Miami and FSU. All I'm saying is games are alot harder to win when you travel a few thousand miles. Tenn has realized this first hand in the last two years. Basically what I'm saying is teams in other conferances travel accross the country every year. Mich goes to Oregon, USC goes to OSU, OSU goes to USC, Texas goes to OSU. MSU goes to Cal, ILL goes to Mizzu. You rarely ever see a SEC team do this. Tenn has and they have lost to inferior opponents. Why do you thing teams like the Arizona Cardinals have a much better home record than road record. Because its a pain in the ass for teams to travel to Arizona for the weekend. UF literally havsn't played a game outside the southeast since the 1960's. Just saying it's a different world when you leave your timezone.

Um ok... Again, the SEC doesn't have to do all this. Our Strength of schedules are the toughest year in and year out. We prove ourselves in the BCS, games that matter my friend. I can't wait for the UGA/ASU game! Maybe once UGA comes in there and physically manhandles this poser team, people's tunes will change... but probably not.
 

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