why you should never be a socialist

[Ricboff]

Gas, does she have a degree? or did she apply after two years of undergraduate?

it's becoming CRAZY competitive to get into dental schools. Most applicants have a degree, some even a Masters.

from U of Michigan :

'Most students who are admitted to the School of Dentistry have completed a baccalaureate degree by the time of matriculation'

at U of Toronto, forget it, not getting in without an undergraduate degree, even if your GPA is 4.00

 

[mplastered]

LOL, I also spelled excepted as "accepted"

Damn, missed it.

 

[The Guesser]

And the very first sentence from your article:

The defining narrative of the United States of America is that of a nation where everyone has an opportunity to achieve a better life.

Bam, case closed. Thanks for making my point, and thanks for playing.

All these evil imaginary socio-economic factors don't erase opportunities for anyone. Whether someone is born into wealth of poverty, they both have opportunities to do something with their life. Whether they choose to pursue them is entirely another matter.

There is nothing that guarantees everyone will have an equal outcome in life. The problem then becomes "fairness." If someone makes something of themselves, why...that just isn't fair to someone who didn't. Therefore, lets level the playing field by implementing unfair programs like affirmative action. Yes, that'll show em!

My parents and grandparents came to this country with maybe $10 of cash in their pockets and didn't speak a word of English when their ferry docked. They never accepted welfare, yet both of my parents and every one of my aunts and uncles went to college and/or grad school. A lot of them are well to do today. My wife's parents...very similar story, except her family is from the Caribbean. Her grandma came to California, worked multiple jobs, raised the family in a shitty part of South Central, and now each of her grand kids owns a house in a much nicer part of LA. Tens of thousands of Asian immigrants have followed the same path. Explain to the audience how that's possible when none of them were born into wealth and none of them had Kennedy-like connections to help them...

Yes, That's the IDEAL. It is NOT the current situation, as anyone with a brain in their head and even a smudge of common sense would readily admit, and as report after report shows, so thanks for Playing. That doesn't mean many people do overcome those obstacles.

 

[Ttratter]

Is anyone able to watch that new cable channel NewsMax???

California has banned it from directv and dish subscribers. This channel might make that state go red.

 

[comrade666]

Is anyone able to watch that new cable channel NewsMax???

California has banned it from directv and dish subscribers. This channel might make that state go red.

Hahaha. Ok.

yeah news max needs new producers. Several times there will be 10 seconds of black silence before transitioning to commercial or start of next segment

 

[The Guesser]

Hahaha. Ok.

yeah news max needs new producers. Several times there will be 10 seconds of black silence before transitioning to commercial or start of next segment

NewsmaxTV is pretty much at the production level of Wayne'sWorld at this point.

 

[comrade666]

NewsmaxTV is pretty much at the production level of Wayne'sWorld at this point.

Hahaha. Very true

 

[wabashwonders]

Yes, That's the IDEAL. It is NOT the current situation, as anyone with a brain in their head and even a smudge of common sense would readily admit, and as report after report shows, so thanks for Playing. That doesn't mean many people do overcome those obstacles.

What he failed to include is the word "equal". I agree with his post that everyone has an opportunity to make something of their lives and better themselves. But not everyone has an "equal" opportunity.

 

[Willie99]

That is correct.. Her two older brothers went through the Dentistry program at U of M and were already Dentists/Surgeons.

She was trying to follow in their footsteps..her other brother went to Michigan to be a lawyer.

Semantics and Sandy was President of Student Counsel, a cheerleader, honor society, deans list, etc. etc. etc.

Call all the bullshit you want they were both good friends of mine who I liked very much, just was not fair to Sandy.

was ready to brag about UConn being a top dentistry school in America, then I saw Michigan was even higher at number 3

hopefully she hasn't stopped pursuing her dreams. She can choose other schools and she can always save big bucks in the Caribbean

not commenting on her blight with MI

 

[JDeuce]

What he failed to include is the word "equal". I agree with his post that everyone has an opportunity to make something of their lives and better themselves. But not everyone has an "equal" opportunity.

"And there's a swing and a miss! Down he goes!"

Actually, everyone in this country does indeed have an equal opportunity to do whatever they want. No one has an equal chance at success...that's not what I'm talking about. It seems some on here are really struggling with what the word opportunity means.

It's almost like a marathon which has hundreds of entrants. Each runner has an equal opportunity to win, but not an equal likelihood to win. Big difference.

The Left pretends to want to guarantee everyone has a successful outcome, which is impossible. You can't have 1,000 winners of a marathon with 1,000 runners in it. So their line of thinking then becomes "Well, if everyone can't have it, then no one else should be allowed to either!" (except the self-anointed leaders, of course).

 

[wabashwonders]

"And there's a swing and a miss! Down he goes!"

Actually, everyone in this country does indeed have an equal opportunity to do whatever they want. No one has an equal chance at success...that's not what I'm talking about. It seems some on here are really struggling with what the word opportunity means.

It's almost like a marathon which has hundreds of entrants. Each runner has an equal opportunity to win, but not an equal likelihood to win. Big difference.

The Left pretends to want to guarantee everyone has a successful outcome, which is impossible. You can't have 1,000 winners of a marathon with 1,000 runners in it. So their line of thinking then becomes "Well, if everyone can't have it, then no one else should be allowed to either!" (except the self-anointed leaders, of course).

I didn't swing and miss at anything and your marathon analogy is a poor one for what we are talking about. My son is a musician and has worked hard to try be successful at it. Unfortunately, he has failed so far but continues to pursue his goal. Yes, he has opportunities and has done his best to utilize what opportunities he has had to get ahead in the music industry. Now, let's look at someone like Miley Cirrus who has a father who is already a big country music star and has the finances and connections to help Miley start and promote her music career. Now if you think my son has the same equal opportunities as Miley Cirrus then you are just crazy. If I was a big music star and had the same connections and finances as Billy Cirrus, I guarantee my son would just as big a star as Miley Cirrus is today. Again, it doesn't mean my son still doesn't have opportunities and can't make it, but he certainly did not have the same opportunities as Miley Cirrus had and will have to work much harder than she did to reach his goals. So, again, not everyone has the same equal opportunities.

 

[mplastered]

Wabash, gonna have to disagree on this one. I do believe opportunity is the major difference here. He may not have the easiest path to the opportunities out there. That, I'm with you. But they are out there. Good luck, I wish him the best.

 

[wabashwonders]

Wabash, gonna have to disagree on this one. I do believe opportunity is the major difference here. He may not have the easiest path to the opportunities out there. That, I'm with you. But they are out there. Good luck, I wish him the best.

So, you saying my son has the same opportunities that Miley Cirrus has had? As I said, I don't disagree that opportunities are out there for everyone, but as my example shows, those opportunities are not always the same for all. The original statement was that everyone has equal opportunities. Opportunities, yes. Equal? Not always.

 

[comrade666]

So, you saying my son has the same opportunities that Miley Cirrus has had? As I said, I don't disagree that opportunities are out there for everyone, but as my example shows, those opportunities are not always the same for all. The original statement was that everyone has equal opportunities. Opportunities, yes. Equal? Not always.

That's the truth. It's amazing no one will admit that

 

[SheriffJoe]

And excuses are the nails you use to build a house of failure - radical leftism in a nutshell.

 

[akphidelt]

"And there's a swing and a miss! Down he goes!"

Actually, everyone in this country does indeed have an equal opportunity to do whatever they want. No one has an equal chance at success...that's not what I'm talking about. It seems some on here are really struggling with what the word opportunity means.

It's almost like a marathon which has hundreds of entrants. Each runner has an equal opportunity to win, but not an equal likelihood to win. Big difference.

The Left pretends to want to guarantee everyone has a successful outcome, which is impossible. You can't have 1,000 winners of a marathon with 1,000 runners in it. So their line of thinking then becomes "Well, if everyone can't have it, then no one else should be allowed to either!" (except the self-anointed leaders, of course).

This is simply not true at all. You completely leave out education and experiences throughout ones youth which form what kind of opportunity or skills they have when they become adults. It's very hard for inner city or poor youths to become doctors, lawyers, mathematicians, engineers, work in finance etc, etc. Basically anything that involves education. On top of that, affording higher education becomes even harder. As opposed to the Mitt Romney's in this world or even myself and the kids I went to school with, who have absolutely no worries about going to whatever college they want and their parents will pay for it.

There is nothing equal or fair about the start that kids have because of their parents position.

Now, I'm not saying this is a problem. There is no reason to punish successful parents from providing their kids with the best education they can and paying for that education and maybe even giving them seed money to start their lives. No problem with that.

But there is a problem when you believe that kids all have equal opportunity. And only the extreme socialist would like to make everything equal. The rest of us sane folk, just want to make the opportunity or chances of kids who didn't have equal opportunity more possible. Having educational programs that give them a chance, access to healthcare, food, etc.

It's still hilarious how you guys are comparing yourself to the bottom of the bottom and getting jealous that they might get stuff that you and I don't even worry about.

You guys have a very skewed philosophy.

 

[comrade666]

This is simply not true at all. You completely leave out education and experiences throughout ones youth which form what kind of opportunity or skills they have when they become adults. It's very hard for inner city or poor youths to become doctors, lawyers, mathematicians, engineers, work in finance etc, etc. Basically anything that involves education. On top of that, affording higher education becomes even harder. As opposed to the Mitt Romney's in this world or even myself and the kids I went to school with, who have absolutely no worries about going to whatever college they want and their parents will pay for it.

There is nothing equal or fair about the start that kids have because of their parents position.

Now, I'm not saying this is a problem. There is no reason to punish successful parents from providing their kids with the best education they can and paying for that education and maybe even giving them seed money to start their lives. No problem with that.

But there is a problem when you believe that kids all have equal opportunity. And only the extreme socialist would like to make everything equal. The rest of us sane folk, just want to make the opportunity or chances of kids who didn't have equal opportunity more possible. Having educational programs that give them a chance, access to healthcare, food, etc.

It's still hilarious how you guys are comparing yourself to the bottom of the bottom and getting jealous that they might get stuff that you and I don't even worry about.

You guys have a very skewed philosophy.

This is an argument that is so simple it's disgusting. Some people are at staggering disadvantages in this country.
The wealthy elite continue to get wealthier. The poor and middle class get poorer

 

[akphidelt]

This is an argument that is so simple it's disgusting. Some people are at staggering disadvantages in this country.
The wealthy elite continue to get wealthier. The poor and middle class get poorer

I always think it's hilarious when they talk about the US being socialists when we have a disparity of wealth that rivals third world countries. It's amazing how their wealthy masters have conned them in to the belief that the wealthy are being targeted and held back. Can't make up a stupider belief.

 

[HacheMan]

Please chill out guys or this one goes to the Rubber Room....

 

[mplastered]

Please chill out guys or this one goes to the Rubber Room....

What am I missing? :think2: