The ULTIMATE Tout/Anti-Tout Argument

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tryingtofade:
On second thought, it occurs to me there is an apt analogy for gambling touts in the "investing" world. That of course would be the infamous "penny stock tout or promoter" who is someone who convinces unsophisticated individuals to buy worthless bits of paper by preying on their greed and desire for easy riches. Hmmmm. glad you brought it up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Exactly Fade!

BTW GREAT POST Dicky!!!

You guys better watch it!! Dogball may be checking you guys IP out too......
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BBWAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA......
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"I'm a watchdog for the players!!! I try and help us, he ties and scam us. Understand?"

WHAT DUE DILIGENCE DID YOU DO BEFORE YOU SCAMMED ALL YOUR BUDDIES?

IF YOU ARE A WATCHDOG, I GUESS ALL WHO HEED YOUR ADVICE CAN EXPECT TO END UP BROKE AS WELL

WHAT ARE YOUR WATCHDOG QUALIFICATIONS
LONG RUN ON BABBLING SENTENCES FULL OF BOMBAST, BULLCRAP THAT MAKE NO SENSE

SUPPOSE YOU WHERE TO WRITE A LETTER ON BEHALF OF A WRONGED PLAYER, THE SPORTS BOOK MANAGER REVIEWING THE MATTER WOULD DIE OF CONFUSION BEFORE THEY MADE A DECISION ON THE PLAYER

I would no sooner know how to check an Ip then , well something, but i couldnt do it. But it is clearly a ghost of someone

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Pat , I`m just trying to be fair calling it down the middle....I do think its fair to critcize dog for some stuff, but at the same time I think dog is a very solid capper...
 
Dog- I told you it's not my style to post emails as I consider it private information. If you are asking me to post the emails to prove that I'm telling the truth I will do so.
 
Dogball PLEASE don't report me and have my IP checked.....

If I take it back and say you are the best in the world will you let me got this time???
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<trembles in fear>

BTW perfect example of the difference between a good tout and Dogball. They <good touts> understand what we are saying and are ashamed of some in their business. Dogball gets outraged and runs whining if you say anything bad about touts. He tries to scare you or intimidate you into saying good things about him.

BTW guess you guys have heard, he's really a lawyer!! Right Dogball? LOL.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
Pat , I`m just trying to be fair calling it down the middle....I do think its fair to critcize dog for some stuff, but at the same time I think dog is a very solid capper...


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Whatever. I think Dog just asked you to sign into AOL. Maybe he can post with you there.....
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BTW the break you had to take when you lost all that money, remember that? Tell me who you were following the night you almost went broke....

PS - I KNOW the answer.
 
PAT-
YOu have the IP priviledges, not me.

I think even you can understand the point, guy has been here one day, he is most likely a ghost. No "threats" from me as he did not say anything I care about.


You forgot to respond to this-


posted 02-17-03 02:01 AM
Patrick MCIRISH-
These are your words to me in an email dated 10-30-02. I cannot post the entire e mail because it contains other information I do not think would be appropriate for others to see. If you deny the words, I will -
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For me I am pretty solid on bases and college hoops. Have made a small
amount on college football but can't make a quarter in the NFL or NBA. Suck
at both of them. You would be a big help for me "

WATCHDOG CRITERIA-
What does it take to be a watchdog?
A person who does no due diligence, refers all his friends and family to a book and waits for the book to collapse ?
That is the extent of your watchdog success. You have a lot to be proud of. What is next for MCIRISH the failure? Bigger scams await I am sure.

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Pat- I think that J Man went out on his own that eve..at least with his units.

This thread is highly active! And volatile!

Looks like The Snake can take a rest...

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okay lets look at one side of this, dogball and his W/L record for his football plays....

i followed the guy daily in baseball, he did not cheat his record , believe me if he did i would have seen it! And i was the one who wondered about the Byrd pitching change play patrick...its all there in the board room...i even asked dog about it back then....

He did gripe it was a pitching change no onew else had, but he took the loss....

His record was kept very accurately in baseball!

I followed him very closely from the time I arrived...
 
Thank you for the honest clarification Journey

Do you see that pat is trying to blame me for a loss you took as well. I thought you never played my card?

It is my opinion that pat has lost all reason now due to his hatred of me. He can dish out the lies but cant take it back

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I`ll be the first to admit I took a bath that night with his plays
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It was bad luck as I watched and watched , i had a red hot baseball season myself . I started noticing this dogball guy was hotter than me...I was up big time , its all there I played at Grande hit them hard all summer...

I watched dogball all summer too, I waited for him to hit a slump to catch a ride,it never happened... When i finally slumped I stepped up and got creamed, and yes it was dogs plays that night...It was just bad timing and no ones fault but mine....Its funny though because (well its not funny actually) I wanted to catch onto another capper as I felt my own hot streak was overdue...I believe i even posted a topic about "what to do when you have been red hot"

I just had bad timing and did something dumb by upping my units
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On the right wave I may have made 25 dimes...

It didn`t happen, i can admit it..
 
I like Washington tomorrow.

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[This message was edited by Patrick McIrish on 02-17-03 at 03:12 AM.]
 
Dog I played your card that night when fukking Terrence Long dropped the routine flyball..And I believe it was Robert Person who got injured in the 1st inning only to have Glavine get lit up...I did step out that night..I never wanted to look like I was blaming anyone...obviously I wasn t either.....

Those two games that night were brutal, I`ll never forget that fukking blowjob by the A`s that night !

I think it was like a 1-5 night...

In all I believe i used dogball plays maybe 10 total games...only because he never cooled...i had the gun loaded
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he never cooled
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dogball:
PAT-
YOu have the IP priviledges, not me.

I think even you can understand the point, guy has been here one day, he is most likely a ghost. No "threats" from me as he did not say anything I care about.


You forgot to respond to this-


posted 02-17-03 02:01 AM
Patrick MCIRISH-
These are your words to me in an email dated 10-30-02. I cannot post the entire e mail because it contains other information I do not think would be appropriate for others to see. If you deny the words, I will -
"
For me I am pretty solid on bases and college hoops. Have made a small
amount on college football but can't make a quarter in the NFL or NBA. Suck
at both of them. You would be a big help for me "

WATCHDOG CRITERIA-
What does it take to be a watchdog?
A person who does no due diligence, refers all his friends and family to a book and waits for the book to collapse ?
That is the extent of your watchdog success. You have a lot to be proud of. What is next for MCIRISH the failure? Bigger scams await I am sure.

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LOL. Then why did you tell Ira time for an IP check? I don't have access to that stuff, don't want it. Nor would I threaten someone who disagrees with me to check their IP. Wow, low even for you.....

As far as the threat of you posting something publicly I sent you, go ahead and knock yourself out. Add a few sentences along the way if it helps you out man. Make it real juicy stuff that will make you look good if you can. LOL. You have the wrong guy my man. No one extorts me over the threat of posting my alleged e-mails to get me to agree with them. LOL!!! For some reason it doesn't surprise me you would do something like that. Post away my friend, when you are done with the smear campaign you will still be a low life two bit toutboy trying to hustle squares out of their money. I will still be the one betting real money with real sportbooks and being able to live off that. Comfortably I might add. It's a nice feeling believe me.....
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PS - as much as you want to try to take the focus off you, this is about you Dog not me. Other than Journeyman most understand you are the one here desperately hoping to represent the Rx as a tout. Your business is faltering severely and the RX is your last hope. You are "trying out" for the right to suck money from the squares to save your business, not me. In fact now I am kind of enjoying watching you try desperately to attack me and take the focus off you. LOL. I get more and more e-mails everyday thanking me for taking the heat you are putting on me and still speaking my mind. I hate to tell you this but your plan isn't working to well. Where's the bit of me being partners with NAB? You promised proof of that today I thought. Nothing else about the Players Club? I scammed them too didn't I? I loved that stuff, come up with more will ya? Now you are going to post my e-mails? LOL...... At first I was offended now I am pleased to see you resort to this stuff. I said I would get you to show your true colors, and look what is happening. A person would have to be a fool to not see this one coming. Throw enough dirt on others and maybe they won't notice you huh? LMAO....

Good day and good luck with your plays tomorrow.
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"Your business is faltering severely and the RX is your last hope."
You really got me in a pickel now, If i post my record I am a lying tout, If you lie about my business,
Then I know I really upset your day

Good enough for me
85% of my original clients allready signed up for bases and I got a lot of happy folks.

As for the rest of your lies

You are worse then HenHouse at this point
Take a few days off and regroup
YOu did not deny the words, but in fairness to you, I should not say that, I will just send the e mail back to you to refresh your memory, but you know it is true
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Patrick you may be 100% right, all I`m saying is the guy is a very fine capper IMO...

What his overall intentions are, I don`t know..

He always treated me with respect and thats all I can ask...

I`m not taking either side, but I know his record was kept fairly...

I would guess his Tout business does greatly depend on Rx posters...So I guess that part is true....
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
I`ll be the first to admit I took a bath that night with his plays
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THANK YOU JOURNEYMAN!!!! A bath? It knocked you out of commission!!! You lost tons that night and you were going to leave you lost so much. You had to quit betting for a while! Gave back a lot you had won betting with some of the pros. LOL.

Even this guy who is somewhat defending Dogball admits his plays busted him in baseball!!!! LMAO!!! You mean the GREAT toutboy Dogball busted you in baseball!??!?! This guy claims to be the best in the world!!
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Not laughing at you Journey. I wanted to save you, I could see he was a fraud even before he busted you. I saw how Dog pressed up and played his little games, you should have followed Jake. Dog busted a lot of people, can you imagine the NBA?? He is dead last in that right now too. Add his fees he charges the suckers and he is really busting people.........
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Oh well live and learn. NEVER TRUST A TOUTBOY who makes a living selling his plays because he's not good enough to win on his own. 'Nuff said.
 
all I`m saying is the guy is a very fine capper IMO...

JOURNEY


Somehow I dont think that was what Journey was saying Henhouse , I mean Pat, I mean MR. Watch DOG, LMFAO

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by raiders72001:
I went 14-0 today guys.
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LOL, I just spit my OJ all over the computer.....
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Well guess what I went 31-0 today, only had the plays posted in my head though.

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Look out, we are due for an IP check if you keep that up Raiders. Toutboy has a lot of pull around here.....
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