life or death????
i have a right to my own thought and opinions. i met ken and his wife. i have followed his posts and other posts at eog for quite some time. i am of the same religion as ken. i am familiar with alot of the shit that's happening in the gaming industry offshore now and might be happening in the future. i do not believe ken and his wife committed suicide. i hope they are in a place where they want/need to better, and we all need to move on.
i really don't want to point out my reasonings. it's not important. we all make choices. we all take consequences for our actions. therefore, wherever dear ken is at the moment, it is where he chose and where he needs to be. peace to all.
i have a right to my own thought and opinions. i met ken and his wife. i have followed his posts and other posts at eog for quite some time. i am of the same religion as ken. i am familiar with alot of the shit that's happening in the gaming industry offshore now and might be happening in the future. i do not believe ken and his wife committed suicide. i hope they are in a place where they want/need to better, and we all need to move on.
i really don't want to point out my reasonings. it's not important. we all make choices. we all take consequences for our actions. therefore, wherever dear ken is at the moment, it is where he chose and where he needs to be. peace to all.
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I was thinking the same thing. Suicide pacts are usually something made between the very young or the very old who are sick and frail. Unless it's a cult of some type. So this is rather unusual. The first thing I would be thinking in a case like this is murder/suicide. I'm sure the facts will probably come out. But I've seen a few cases where they never do.
Very sad situation if indeed this is true. Just can't imagine what the family is going thru. They just seem to be a very close knit family from all the stuff I read on the forums.
On another thought if this does turn out to be suicide and its possibly related to a person getting himself into major debt from on-line gambling. Then add in that this guy was also one of the major proponents of on-line gambling, the other side could have a field day with this kind of stuff. BIG black eye for on-line gambling.
On another thought if this does turn out to be suicide and its possibly related to a person getting himself into major debt from on-line gambling. Then add in that this guy was also one of the major proponents of on-line gambling, the other side could have a field day with this kind of stuff. BIG black eye for on-line gambling.
More specifically, they are private precisely because they need to accomplish two major objectives, if it is a suicide.
1. Eliminate any possible external source of the death, i.e., homicide or accidental death. This sometimes takes time, and requires an in-depth autopsy lasting for hours. For carbon monoxide poisoning, there are specific signs that are relatively easy for a forensics investigator to determine if the deaths were consensual, or if the victims were set up by an external source.
A proper autopsy, for instance, would indicate if the victims had suffered poisoning in another location, then transferred to the target location. Such a finding would immediately raise the red flags. Other indicators can be found if evidence of force or assault could be found on the body or bodies of the victims.
2. Once the death is determined to be a suicide, then they are very careful in how this information is disseminated to the press in deference to family privacy and sensitivities.
If step 1 does not conclusively rule out eternal sources for death, then the case remains open, and further tests may be warranted.
NOW: This is not disrespect to the families. As stated before, mutual marital double-suicides are extremely rare, and with the potential problems of the industry as a whole, would immediately raise my own radar if I were an investigator.
Wow. This is insane..but with the recent busts..How else do you remove a semi-public figure (and his wife) to witness protection ?
Maybe that's just a hope, but unless the police release an autopsy or there are pics/vid of the funeral people will be skeptical on this one.
It's not like they died in a car wreck with media/witnesses/police reports, etc. This is just too 'neat'. And I agree it had to be murder/suicide if they are indeed dead. Unless they had an incurable disease, you'd be very unlikely to 'convince' a spouse to do it. Would be hard to determine if she was slipped the sleeping pills or took them voluntarily. Speculation, of course. RIP if the reports are accurate.
Maybe that's just a hope, but unless the police release an autopsy or there are pics/vid of the funeral people will be skeptical on this one.
It's not like they died in a car wreck with media/witnesses/police reports, etc. This is just too 'neat'. And I agree it had to be murder/suicide if they are indeed dead. Unless they had an incurable disease, you'd be very unlikely to 'convince' a spouse to do it. Would be hard to determine if she was slipped the sleeping pills or took them voluntarily. Speculation, of course. RIP if the reports are accurate.
