SH: True. Except for all the times they advocate for someone who is Republican, Christian, Jewish, a school child, an infant, believer in individual rights, sane, married, heterosexual, moral, self-controlled; believer in democracy or any of the other half dozen redundant descriptors you mention above in your well thought out post.
SH: True. Except for all the times they advocate for someone who is Republican, Christian, Jewish, a school child, an infant, believer in individual rights, sane, married, heterosexual, moral, self-controlled; believer in democracy or any of the other half dozen redundant descriptors you mention above in your well thought out post.
"The ACLU supports...." homosexuals, atheists, communists, religious expression, political correctness, harmful sexual acts, polygomy, suicide, pro-abortionists, prostitutes and Muslims.....
Those are all individual choices by adults or consenting adults.
"Child molesters, terrorists, anarchy, stalkers, illegal aliens..."
Those groups should have their day in court and face the legal process.
When you say the ACLU is against "individual rights", you're stating this this from an angle that your narrow moral way of life is not being represented.....it's not simply about defending "your" rights above whatever someone else chooses to do. One person's morality is different from another person's morality. To be fair it has to do with each and every individuals rights as long as they don't impose on someone else's rights or property. When everyone is allowed their individual rights while respecting others individual rights then the system works and is fair.
A pestilance is attempting to destroy everything we know, but we can always depend on an advocate to tell us " Yeah it's all going to shit, but the sky is still blue".
I must congatulate barman for his cutting wit while he tells us something we already know when he says ""Evil is clever, doncha know" At least he admits the ACLU is evil.
Originally Posted by texansfan
-The ACLU supports homosexuals, atheists, child molesters, communists, terrorists, anarchy, bestiality, religious expression, political correctness, stalkers, harmful sexual acts, polygomy, suicide, illegal aliens, pro-abortionists, prostitutes, and Muslims; anyone with an interest in shattering societies concept of morals and eventually destroying said society._____________________________Need I say any more? Oh yeah & Illegal Aliens & so called Anchor babies http://stoptheaclu.org http://numbersusa.com/video
-The ACLU supports homosexuals, atheists, child molesters, communists, terrorists, anarchy, bestiality, religious expression, political correctness, stalkers, harmful sexual acts, polygomy, suicide, illegal aliens, pro-abortionists, prostitutes, and Muslims; anyone with an interest in shattering societies concept of morals and eventually destroying said society._____________________________Need I say any more? Oh yeah & Illegal Aliens & so called Anchor babies http://stoptheaclu.org http://numbersusa.com/video
Whats NAMBLA?__________________Nevermind looked it up on google...North American Man Boy Love Association?.... http://stoptheaclu.org
SH: Looks like Mrs BB will be getting out the mop tonight to clean up the dour vomit.
I do believe that BBL honestly believes the world is going to shit.
Sorry if the rest of us feel pretty good about life and the future of America.
(cue Sousa music....or some good techno dance)
I don't know if the ACLU has a link to NAMBLA on their website - but there is a definite link between the two left wing organizations as indicated in the following article by Deroy Murdock from National review online:
The Manhattan-based public-interest law firm is defending the North American Man-Boy Love Association in a $200 million civil lawsuit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley. The Curleys claim that Charles Jaynes was driven by the literature and website of NAMBLA, an outfit that advocates sex between grown men and little boys, reportedly as young as age 8.
Jaynes did not simply read NAMBLA's materials and ponder its message. He and Salvatore Sicari actively sought a boy with whom to copulate. They picked 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge, Massachusetts. They lured him into their car as he played outside his home in October 1997. When Curley resisted their sexual advances, they choked him to death with a gasoline-soaked rag. Then they took the boy's body across state lines to Jayne's apartment in Manchester, New Hampshire. They molested the cadaver and stuffed it into a cement-filled Rubbermaid container. Finally, they crossed state lines again into Maine, whereupon they tossed Jeffrey Curley's remains into the Great Works River, from which it was recovered within days. Jaynes and Sicari were convicted of these crimes in 1998, for which they are serving life sentences.
So why blame NAMBLA? Is it any more responsible for this atrocity than is Vintage Books, the publisher of Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita? Imagine that Jaynes and Sicari had read that 1955 novel about a middle-aged intellectual's affair with a 12-year-old girl. What if these two men found an equally young female who they abused and killed, just as they murdered Jeffrey Curley in real life? Putting aside the fact that Lolita is a work of fiction, would Vintage Books face civil justice?
Probably not, nor would NAMBLA if it limited its output to fictional depictions of "man-boy love." It is difficult to pin imaginary crimes on actual criminals who turn make-believe into mayhem.
Within the realm of nonfiction, as revolting as its ideas are, NAMBLA certainly has a First Amendment right to argue that America's laws should be changed to permit sexual relations between adult men and third-grade school boys. Most Americans would disagree vehemently, as well they should. That's called debate. It's the American way.
As ACLU of Massachusetts Legal Director John Reinstein sees it: "Regardless of whether people agree with or abhor NAMBLA's views, holding the organization responsible for crimes committed by others who read their materials would gravely endanger important First Amendment freedoms."
However, as Fox News' Bill O'Reilly noted, there is more at play here than pamphleteering. "According to lawyers familiar with [NAMBLA's] website," O'Reilly explained, "it actually posted techniques designed to lure boys into having sex with men and also supplied information on what an adult should do if caught."
NAMBLA is "not just publishing material that says it's OK to have sex with children and advocating changing the law," says Larry Frisoli, a Cambridge attorney who is arguing the Curleys case in federal court. NAMBLA, he says, "is actively training their members how to rape children and get away with it. They distribute child pornography and trade live children among NAMBLA members with the purpose of having sex with them."
Frisoli cites a NAMBLA publication he calls "The Rape and Escape Manual." Its actual title is "The Survival Manual: The Man's Guide to Staying Alive in Man-Boy Sexual Relationships."
"Its chapters explain how to build relationships with children," Frisoli tells me. "How to gain the confidence of children's parents. Where to go to have sex with children so as not to get caught...There is advice, if one gets caught, on when to leave America and how to rip off credit card companies to get cash to finance your flight. It's pretty detailed."
"In his diary, Jaynes said he had reservations about having sex with children until he discovered NAMBLA," Frisoli continues. "It's in his diary in 1996, around the time he joined NAMBLA, one year before the death of Jeffrey Curley."
The practical, step-by-step advice Jaynes followed goes far beyond appeals to sway public opinion in favor of pedophilia. Such language aids and abets felonious conduct. If such conspiracy results in homicide, it is reasonable for NAMBLA to face civil liability if not criminal prosecution.
Ohio's Court of Appeals found NAMBLA complicit in an earlier child-rape case. NAMBLA's literature, discovered in a defendant's possession, reflected "preparation and purpose," according to the Buckeye State's top bench.
The ACLU has offered material support to those who openly preach pedophilia and arguably encourage kidnapping, rape, and murder. Yet this legal group is energetically hostile to an organization that tries to turn boys into men, with sex alien to the process.
I do believe that BBL honestly believes the world is going to shit.
And you also believe that drunks, drug addicts and common criminals need your help - which goes to prove that you don't have a clue.
As for the Mrs - you leave mine out of your sick drivel and I'll make sure I don't mention yours.
Did you ever read about the grasshopper and the ant - or has it been banned by the NEA for it's conservative social content?
I see that barman is on a roll - the cops must have swept the gutters clean of his clients and he has nothing to do but endlessly post his mindless drool.
Too bad barman doesn't have a job producing something useful.
Hey barman - did you ever consider being a garbage man - they do so much better at keeping the trash off the streets.
And i'm still on my first San Miguel!
Too bad barman doesn't have a job producing something useful.
Hey barman - did you ever consider being a garbage man - they do so much better at keeping the trash off the streets.
And i'm still on my first San Miguel!
