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So it would be fine with you if twice a day we stop class in our public schools kneel on the floor, faceing Mecca and praise Alla?
Who is saying anything about stopping class? The post I was replying to wasn't.
 

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Who is saying anything about stopping class? The post I was replying to wasn't.

That's a typical left wing response - you talk about the poor education inner city students are getting and they throw prayer out there to distract from the real argument.
 

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That's a typical left wing response - you talk about the poor education inner city students are getting and they throw prayer out there to distract from the real argument.
Excuse me! Did you read his original post or are you just trying to act the fool?
 

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So, you want to compare what the ACLU is doing to some failed doctrine as communism.......yes, failed.....even Joe C will tell you as he has stated in numerous threads that communism is obsolete and a truly failed policy.........don't tell me you now disagree with Joe because what you're saying and what he's saying cannot co-exist....

Communism has nothing to do with it.....it's simply intolerance by the bible belt and moral prudes that people have choices outside their narrow moral tunnel vision......

It's about individual adult decisions and about personal freedom, the ACLU does more for freedom and choice than the moral snobs trying to convert the country from some alternate lifestyle choices that they consider immoral yet they fail to realize all they simply have to do is choose what's right for them and quietly get the fuck out of other people's lives.

Are people so thick that they don't understand the communist doctrine as laid out in the manifesto?

The people who are pushing the ACLU agenda are true believers who will keep trying until they're recognized for the anti-American socialist zealots that they are - and they won't stop until they've killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
 

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Are people so thick that they don't understand the communist doctrine as laid out in the manifesto?

The people who are pushing the ACLU agenda are true believers who will keep trying until they're recognized for the anti-American socialist zealots that they are - and they won't stop until they've killed the goose that laid the golden egg.


I'm sorry, but you have a fucking problem with reality. In your world, I guess, the Bill of Rights was authored by a bunch of "socialist zealots."
 

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Only place that organized prayer is outlawed is public school.
Unfortunatly "organized" isn't defined in a black & white manner. School districts have punished children for praying over their lunch.


And bblight, read all my posts on this thread before going off on me, okay?
 

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Are people so thick that they don't understand the communist doctrine as laid out in the manifesto?

The people who are pushing the ACLU agenda are true believers who will keep trying until they're recognized for the anti-American socialist zealots that they are - and they won't stop until they've killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
BB, Defending peoples right under the constitution is communist, and un-American? The goose that laid the golden egg is our freedom, the thing you "conservatives" are trying to take away.

Look closely in the mirror while espousing these views. You may discover the reason for our country's decline.
 

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Excuse me! Did you read his original post or are you just trying to act the fool?


Yes - he said "Free speach applies to prayer too."

You're the moomnat who brought up prayer in public schools- which I called a typical moonbat response to change the subject.

To pinkos like you, teaching about sex and handing out contraceptives in our public schools is ok and teaching that homosexuality is acceptable - but teaching about any kind of values is a right wing conspiracy.

You people are unbelievable.
 

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That's a typical left wing response - you talk about the poor education inner city students are getting and they throw prayer out there to distract from the real argument.

You think its possible that inner city kids do worse because they aren't as capable? It isn't all the teachers is it?
 

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Yes - he said "Free speach applies to prayer too."

You're the moomnat who brought up prayer in public schools- which I called a typical moonbat response to change the subject.

To pinkos like you, teaching about sex and handing out contraceptives in our public schools is ok and teaching that homosexuality is acceptable - but teaching about any kind of values is a right wing conspiracy.

You people are unbelievable.
Right! Unfuckingbeliveable.
 

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BB, Defending peoples right under the constitution is communist, and un-American? The goose that laid the golden egg is our freedom, the thing you "conservatives" are trying to take away.

Look closely in the mirror while espousing these views. You may discover the reason for our country's decline.

What?

Defending what rights? The ACLU hasn't defended any rights in decades.

The ACLU has declared war on American, civil and religious values and has scammed idiots like you into thinking they're defending someones rights.

I call it attacking religious rights, assaulting family values, and undermining the Constitution with judicial legislation.

The ACLU has promulgated a fraud on ignorant dupes like you - the sooner you figure it out, the better of you'll be.
 

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You think its possible that inner city kids do worse because they aren't as capable? It isn't all the teachers is it?

I assume you've read previous posts - if not. I'll try again:

<TABLE class=tborder style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=thead colSpan=2>12-29-2007 10:02 PM</TD></TR><TR title="Post 4928519" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>bblight</TD><TD class=alt2>Quote:
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LOL, you are right. I forgot you teach....oh wait you don't. You sound paranoid. I don't give my opinions on any of the current events issues we discuss in class. I play both sides of everything, its up to them to come up with a point of view....And most teachers aren't interested in brainwashing kids either. I've seen much more of this in college, but not under college.
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I'm not talking about teachers - IMO, most teachers are trying to do the best job they can in an environment that works against them thanks to the ACLU and the NEA.

Please remember that these organizations have been paramount in limiting the teachers classroom authority and the authority of school administrators to punish students who act up; these organizations have supported keeping the worst, most criminal students in the classroom thus assuring the loss of borderline students; these organizations have helped to change the way history and social sciences are taught; these organizations have lost sight of the fact that the classroom is there to prepare students for the workplace and to be the best that they can be in their socio-economic lives.

For every rural bible thumper you can come up, I'll find you a dozen inner city left wing zealots who are true believers in the ACLU/NEA agenda.

Take a look in any inner city neighborhood and tell me these kids are getting the best education they can have.

Take a look at some of those tenured teachers and tell me they're doing the best that they can.

With a good education, any street corner punk can become a success story when he finally matures into an adult - I'm living proof of that.

The system is denyinhg millions of kids the best education they can have and the ACLU/NEA agenda is the cause of the disfunction. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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I did BB. Its more rhetorical than aimed at you.

VT - Inner city kids are pretty smart - they lack the values and education to become successful and the only place they can get either is in pubblic school.

The NEA and the ACLU have limited the ability of teachers and administrators to discipline any student and have required that the worst, most criminal students be kept in the classroom where thay can disrupt the clasroom mand infect borderline students with their lack of respect for authority. Tracking doesn't help when the pproblem populayion continues to outpace special needs classrooms.

Meanwhile, these kids on a hormone high are being assaulted with Hollywood values that tells them to have sex with anyone at anytime - and the school will supply them with contraceptives and even abortion help.

These kids learn the welfare system inside out but never learn the basic skills they need to get and keep a well paying job.

This is the legacy that the ACLU and thye NEA have given us.
 

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I can agree that admins are handcuffed by the system these days. A public education is not a right to kids who disrupt the opportunity for other kids.
 

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Unfortunatly "organized" isn't defined in a black & white manner. School districts have punished children for praying over their lunch.


And bblight, read all my posts on this thread before going off on me, okay?

I wasn't going off on you - I was supporting you - I agree that prayer is under assault.
 

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I think that the NEA and the ACLU have formed a partnership to forward their mutual agenda - and the classroom is where that agenda is being presented. If you think differently, you're wrong.

SH: lol....this your lecture to VTREEHOUSE who is now and has been a public school teacher for several years. Apparently the NEA and ACLU didn't clue him in on "the partnership".

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BBL rants on: There's nothing wrong with the ACLU if you don't like the core family and if you hate America.

SH: Except for those of us who financially support the ACLU due to our love of family and our love for the United States of America.

Other than all of us...sure...

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BBL: I'm not concerned about religion in the classroom

SH: We know that. That's why we have the ACLU - to keep people like you from standing by and carelessly permitting our public schoolrooms to become church houses.
 

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Unfortunatly "organized" isn't defined in a black & white manner. School districts have punished children for praying over their lunch.


And bblight, read all my posts on this thread before going off on me, okay?
"for praying over lunch" Not only are you an idiot, you are are a liar. The only other choice is that you are terribly misinformed.
 

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