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he won the Super Bowl, hes net worth (from a google search ) $40 mill...lol

he got it done , in sport u win , all that matters.


maybe b like Beli , u lost the golden goose hand around as u have nothing else in your life and embarrass yourself and not make the playoffs?....
 

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"This team didn't showup" "This team fucked too many strippers the night before" "This team thought it would be a cakewalk"


This is just unprovable ESPN sports radio nonsense so you can find a narrative you want. it isn't analytical.
Stephen A rolling out one-liners like that aren't analytical

But on the flip side there is sometimes small grains of truth to those more "human" takes. Like teams don't lose simply because they were on the wrong side of variance that one day. That shit is also usually nonsensical

The human takes can be analytical, even if not provable. Granted not the simple one liners like you mentioned
 

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Mcvay probably going to Miami after Buffalo takes them to the woodshed.
rogers to Miami . Boom Boom fireworks
 
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The John Maddens, Vince Lombardis and Bill Belichicks would never buy into this new age nonsense. Certainly not in a game as emotionally-charged as football.

You can't measure clutch factor/"gamer" using simple EV and analytics.

Big game players make the biggest plays in the biggest games.

Some players rise to the occasion under pressure, others are CRUSHED by it.

It's what separates the GREATS from the pack of "very good"
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only 1 of those 3 guys are still alive and he is 70 years old.

The game has CHANGED

Those coaches above who are no longer with us didnt have to deal with players making millions of dollars and all that bullcrap

They were able to run 2 a days with a "practice til you puke" mentality.

those days are over my friend

I also liked all of those sports cliches that you used there.

Those who score more points, will win the game
You make 0% of the shots that you dont take
Hang in there
 

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The funny thing is Belichick actually would agree with crudes take that volatility and variance are a major part of the sport.

That’s why besides 2007, NE never really had dominant teams. They weren’t built for dominance, they were built for sustainability. Get as many bites at the Apple as possible and let the chips fall where they may. Asset optimization is a what they called it.
 

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I remember the famous "Manning vs Brady" thread here, and all the stat/EV nerds backing Manning as the hands down better QB. And I suppose "statistically" they were right.

Remember, this was BEFORE Brady's 7 Super Bowls.

We know what happened.

You can't quantify heart.

Some players just have the "it factor"
 

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only 1 of those 3 guys are still alive and he is 70 years old.

The game has CHANGED

Those coaches above who are no longer with us didnt have to deal with players making millions of dollars and all that bullcrap

They were able to run 2 a days with a "practice til you puke" mentality.

those days are over my friend

I also liked all of those sports cliches that you used there.

Those who score more points, will win the game
You make 0% of the shots that you dont take
Hang in there
That's right, the game I fell in love with doesn't exist anymore.

Except for gladiators like Josh Allen. :grrr:
 

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Ok, since variance and EV don’t matter then stafford was just the best QB on the best team in the playoffs last year.

All that matters is results

So him and McVay are clutch legends forever enshrined in the rich history of the game, what else is there to discuss?
 

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I remember the famous "Manning vs Brady" thread here, and all the stat/EV nerds backing Manning as the hands down better QB. And I suppose "statistically" they were right.

Remember, this was BEFORE Brady's 7 Super Bowls.

We know what happened.

You can't quantify heart.

Some players just have the "it factor"
Statistics is an imperfect science for sure

Anyone in that field will tell you that
 

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Would it surprise you guys to learn there are players in the pros who honestly do not care about winning?

They recognized their gifted talents very early on in their lives and parlayed them into multi-million-dollar athletic careers. Good for them. They don't even care if their teams make the playoffs, in fact for their own health and longevity (more earning power) they'd rather tee it up on the golf course than suffer through the grind. As long as they earn $$$, stay injury free and have long careers, nothing else matters.

To them, it's a business, not a game. Winning doesn't matter.

Does this surprise anyone?
 

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Would it surprise you guys to learn there are players in the pros who honestly do not care about winning?

They recognized their unique talents very early on in their lives and parlayed them into multi-million-dollar athletic careers. Good for them. They don't even care if their teams make the playoffs, in fact for their own health and longevity (more earning power) they'd rather not. As long as they earn $$$, stay injury free and have long careers, nothing else matters.

It's a business, not a game.

Does this surprise anyone?

What does this have to do with anything? Obviously this is true.

NFL you can’t really take the field like it’s bullshit but NBA/ML. obviously you can coast after the money is official
 

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What does this have to do with anything? Obviously this is true.

NFL you can’t really take the field like it’s bullshit but NBA/ML. obviously you can coast after the money is official
Of course it's true.

Yet bettors bet money on these players, or live and die with their teams as fans cheering them on.

Meanwhile, the actual players on the field/court/ice don't give a shit...at least not to the level of their fanatics (fans).

But can you quantify it? No, you can't.

My point is, there are so many variables and factors at play which you can't measure using stats, especially the playoffs where winning isn't everything, it's the only thing. Yet, a shockingly high percentage of players don't care.

Watch The Last Dance, and tell me which athlete(s) these days treat their respective games the way Michael Jordan did, or Tom Brady.
 

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They need to get him more help in back field

His shelf life gonna be a lot lower than Burrow, Mahomes
Allen doesn't play RB game in and game out.

He picks his spots saving the stiff arms and hurdles for the big games.
 

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Of course it's true.

Yet bettors bet money on these players, or live and die with their teams as fans cheering them on.

Meanwhile, the actual players on the field/court/ice don't give a shit...at least not to the level of their fanatics (fans).

But can you quantify it? No, you can't.

My point is, there are so many variables and factors at play which you can't measure using stats, especially the playoffs where winning isn't everything, it's the only thing. Yet, a shockingly high percentage of players don't care.

Watch The Last Dance, and tell me which athlete(s) these days treat their respective games the way Michael Jordan did, or Tom Brady.

A ton of players always didn’t care, who cares?

It’s a show on tv and most of us on here wouldn’t watch a minute without action on it. The teams are laundry owned by billionaires, I root for Celts/NE cause I always have but I don’t care much if they win or not.

What’s this have to do with risk/reward calculus on a stafford/Goff trade though? Given rams were a top 5-10ish team with a small window, I thought it was a fine deal regardless of result. That’s really my original point.

Even if McVay a clown wtf you care? Atleast he knows what gender he is and isn’t voting for socialism. Can’t say him jumping ship bothers me.
 

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The OP: Another dumb ass boomer who probably votes Trump/Republican. At least you people are dying off. I'm neither a boomer nor a millennial but it isn't the millennial who destroyed this country
 

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Stafford is a certain future HOF'er, 11th most passing yards in history, one ahead of Elway, still not "old" and if he plays again will move up a few notches on the all time list.

He was a warrior in Detroit, mostly a very bad team with a terrible OL, no running games, and not enough WR weapons most of the time, got massacred physically and stayed in games, hurt, played his heart out.

THEN won the Super Bowl last yr, this yr Rams OL was one of the worst 3 in the NFL, and he got massacred again.
 

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