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Oregon transfer QB V Adams might be ineligible because a report has him not graduating at EW... Could be a big blow..

Seriously? No way that happens. This has been in the works for quite a while. I'd be shocked.
 

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Coming in the summer is a big blow to Oregon...it's going to take some time yo be comfortable...i wouldn't look for him to start
 

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Makes no sense why he wasn't up at E Washington taking care of school and graduating with the rest of his class today, this will just put him even farther behind coming into camp four days late if not more.
 

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2 more 4 star pickups for 2016... I believe the way its going that this will be Oregon's best class ever
 

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FWIW, USC is a bus ride away from home for all of the 4* recruits anyone would ever need.
To see where I am taking this, compare Oregon's recruiting success in a geographical sense.
I wouldn't suggest that Oregon's appeal as a place to play football has eclipsed that of USC.
But reasons behind Oregon's gains in recruiting over USC has definitely eclipsed the bus ride.
That isn't so easy of a thing to do, but throughout college football as a sport, it's historical.
 

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FWIW, USC is a bus ride away from home for all of the 4* recruits anyone would ever need.
To see where I am taking this, compare Oregon's recruiting success in a geographical sense.
I wouldn't suggest that Oregon's appeal as a place to play football has eclipsed that of USC.
But reasons behind Oregon's gains in recruiting over USC has definitely eclipsed the bus ride.
That isn't so easy of a thing to do, but throughout college football as a sport, it's historical.

Conan,

That's the same thoughts I've always had regarding Tennessee. That state produces like 4 or 5 Division 1 athletes/year....so they have to go out of state for 85-90% of their recruits. Why would a "brother" (young black dude) want to live in Knoxville, Tennessee? (disclaimer, I love Knoxville and the Smokey Mountains....but I'm a white dude). Oregon has built a "brand" and kids have taken notice. In this day and age of the internet, skype, facebook, etc kids can stay in touch a lot easier than they used to.

When I was 20 years old I was deployed for Operation Desert Storm. I remember calling home ONE time because it was so expensive (during a 6-month deployment)....and a 20 minute call from Guam to Jacksonville, FL was like $30! I was a lowly Enlisted dude at the time and that was a big chunk of my paycheck! When I deployed in 2005/06 there was skype, email, and free phone calls! (Facebook wasn't really a thing back in 2006...at least not for me).
 

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A lot of things coming from Pullman that are just as noteworthy as they are newsworthy -- a strange way of putting it but definitely worth taking a little more time to remember than usual because change is in the air. If I remember correctly, the Cougs last year led the nation in passing yardage but were near the bottom in their rushing output (ranked 125th.)

Going the other way, their defensive points allowed were also tilted abruptly against them with an especially porous defensive secondary (ranked 124th) and an above average rushing defense (ranked 40th.) All in all their strengths and weaknesses have been clearly defined.

What's newsworthy here is the play of their defensive backfield so far this year. Greatly improved is the buzzword that was going around the practice field on a fairly regular basis. That's good news for the Cougar faithful being that in terms of team strengths and weaknesses, it is perhaps the greatest weakness that has hurt them the most. Mike Leach's first order of business last winter was to can his DC Mike Breske who's defensive backfield had just ONE (not a misprint... just ONE) interception in all of 2014, the worst in all CFB. His new guy is Alex Grinch who comes by way of Missouri where he specialized in coaching defensive backs. His style emphasizes takeaways which have been sorely absent in the Cougar's defensive game.

Couple the above with 5 returning starters on Leach's OL and things are starting to look interesting. Usually WSU tends to be a pretty scrappy bunch, certainly a pest to many who expected something easier than what they got (at least until they get themselves bombed out of existence.) Maybe this time around we can count on them to last a while and at least cover more than their share of pointspreads. To me that looks like it's worth remembering going forward.

Perhaps there has been a little too much attention paid to the Pac-12 South and not enough to the North. We expect more from Cal Bears and Jared Goff this year as the top QB in the Pac-12 North giving USC's Cody Kessler a run for the #1 QB spot in the conference. That is right up Cal HC's Sonny Dykes' alley. Now what about Mike Leach, another offensive-minded HC? (aka: air raid?) If all goes as expected, Leach's new QB, Luke Faulk looks rarin' to go and ready to play. In practice he has been taking snaps from under center about ¼ of the time which translates to a more aggressive running game with more angles for his running backs to hit the holes. With all 5 starters returning on his OL, let's see it.
 

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Conan,

That's the same thoughts I've always had regarding Tennessee. That state produces like 4 or 5 Division 1 athletes/year....so they have to go out of state for 85-90% of their recruits. Why would a "brother" (young black dude) want to live in Knoxville, Tennessee? (disclaimer, I love Knoxville and the Smokey Mountains....but I'm a white dude). Oregon has built a "brand" and kids have taken notice. In this day and age of the internet, skype, facebook, etc kids can stay in touch a lot easier than they used to.

When I was 20 years old I was deployed for Operation Desert Storm. I remember calling home ONE time because it was so expensive (during a 6-month deployment)....and a 20 minute call from Guam to Jacksonville, FL was like $30! I was a lowly Enlisted dude at the time and that was a big chunk of my paycheck! When I deployed in 2005/06 there was skype, email, and free phone calls! (Facebook wasn't really a thing back in 2006...at least not for me).
shortchanging Tenn quite a bit. 184 3-5 stars in last 5 recruiting classes isn't too shabby. more or less the same as SC and MS puts them around 15th in nation for high end recruits

StateTotal 3/4/5-stars# of FBS schools3/4/5-stars per FBS school
New Jersey222144.4
Georgia758437.9
Florida1,295737
California878725.1
Texas1,3371222.3
Missouri104120.8
Maryland*184218.4
South Carolina173217.3
Pennsylvania257317.1
Virginia*245316.3
Illinois232315.5
Alabama277413.9
Louisiana333513.3
Arizona131213.1
Mississippi182312.1
Ohio462811.6
Wisconsin54110.8
North Carolina2846**9.5
Hawaii4719.4
Washington9429.4
Tennessee18449.2
Arkansas8928.9
Connecticut3917.8
Oklahoma11637.7
Michigan19057.6
Minnesota3617.2
Indiana13246.6
Utah9836.5
Kansas5825.8
Massachusetts5225.2
New York7835.2
Nebraska2414.8
Oregon4324.3
Iowa4124.1
Nevada4124.1
Colorado6034
Kentucky5933.9
Idaho1621.6
New Mexico1021
West Virginia1021
Wyoming210.4
 

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shortchanging Tenn quite a bit. 184 3-5 stars in last 5 recruiting classes isn't too shabby. more or less the same as SC and MS puts them around 15th in nation for high end recruits

# of FBS schools3/4/5-stars per FBS school
New Jersey222144.4
Georgia758437.9
Florida1,295737
California878725.1
Texas1,3371222.3
Missouri104120.8
Maryland*184218.4
South Carolina173217.3
Pennsylvania257317.1
Virginia*245316.3
Illinois232315.5
Alabama277413.9
Louisiana333513.3
Arizona131213.1
Mississippi182312.1
Ohio462811.6
Wisconsin54110.8
North Carolina2846**9.5
Hawaii4719.4
Washington9429.4
Tennessee18449.2
Arkansas8928.9
Connecticut3917.8
Oklahoma11637.7
Michigan19057.6
Minnesota3617.2
Indiana13246.6
Utah9836.5
Kansas5825.8
Massachusetts5225.2
New York7835.2
Nebraska2414.8
Oregon4324.3
Iowa4124.1
Nevada4124.1
Colorado6034
Kentucky5933.9
Idaho1621.6
New Mexico1021
West Virginia1021
Wyoming210.4

He better hope hope Paradise doesn't see him shortchanging Tenn lol
 

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Beat class ever? That is not saying much because Oregon has been such a crap school when it comes to drafts that any Top 15 finish would be one of their best classes. I hope you have your hopes up because when Oregon AGAIN fails to win that elusive NC, I'm going to crush you two. Red, you are a liar, and I am once again going to make you look like the fool you are. Taking USC +5 just proves what you are made of. If someone beat it all out of you you would be transparent. Conan, you know better than to shoot your mouth off about a team that simply does not have the class to win it all. They are a first rank program from the second flight of teams. They do not have the same elite status as Alabama, Auburn, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Texas, and USC, much less any other team that has won a NC. The game against Ohio State was a disaster. Nothing short of a total and complete failure. Your typical Oregon mentality for a big game. After all, they allowed Auburn to drive 73 yards and kick the winning FG with no time left to beat them in the 2011 NC game.

Now as far as your comments about the Holiday Bowl are concerned, that is so fantastically stupid that you should not be allowed to crap in the same State that I am in, much less anything else. Oregon's record in the Holiday Bowl is 2-1. Their overall bowl record is 13-16. You are so bad that I would not allow my dog to listen to you. Stop making sh** up. I have forgotten more about College Football than you have ever known. You are the idiot that thinks that Oregon will win a NC. They WILL NOT. You will die and go to wherever you end up and Oregon will still not own a NC. Now I expect you to own up the fact that Oregon got it's arse kicked up one end of the field and down the other last season in their debacle against Ohio State. Do not pull a Red Eye and try to make up excuses for Oregon, while you claim to have wagered on Ohio State. I know that you like to think that you are a gambler, but you are not. I will ask you this question anyways. Would you take USC and 6 1/2 points -110 (the REAL line) against Oregon this season? Apparently your girl friend thinks that all USC needs is 5 points. That is what he took (-120 to boot).
 

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Beat class ever? That is not saying much because Oregon has been such a crap school when it comes to drafts that any Top 15 finish would be one of their best classes. I hope you have your hopes up because when Oregon AGAIN fails to win that elusive NC, I'm going to crush you two. Red, you are a liar, and I am once again going to make you look like the fool you are. Taking USC +5 just proves what you are made of. If someone beat it all out of you you would be transparent. Conan, you know better than to shoot your mouth off about a team that simply does not have the class to win it all. They are a first rank program from the second flight of teams. They do not have the same elite status as Alabama, Auburn, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Texas, and USC, much less any other team that has won a NC. The game against Ohio State was a disaster. Nothing short of a total and complete failure. Your typical Oregon mentality for a big game. After all, they allowed Auburn to drive 73 yards and kick the winning FG with no time left to beat them in the 2011 NC game.

Now as far as your comments about the Holiday Bowl are concerned, that is so fantastically stupid that you should not be allowed to crap in the same State that I am in, much less anything else. Oregon's record in the Holiday Bowl is 2-1. Their overall bowl record is 13-16. You are so bad that I would not allow my dog to listen to you. Stop making sh** up. I have forgotten more about College Football than you have ever known. You are the idiot that thinks that Oregon will win a NC. They WILL NOT. You will die and go to wherever you end up and Oregon will still not own a NC. Now I expect you to own up the fact that Oregon got it's arse kicked up one end of the field and down the other last season in their debacle against Ohio State. Do not pull a Red Eye and try to make up excuses for Oregon, while you claim to have wagered on Ohio State. I know that you like to think that you are a gambler, but you are not. I will ask you this question anyways. Would you take USC and 6 1/2 points -110 (the REAL line) against Oregon this season? Apparently your girl friend thinks that all USC needs is 5 points. That is what he took (-120 to boot).

wrong thread for this Junk...
 

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Looking at RT's chart, I found it interesting that Indiana produces more 3-4-5 star players than Nebraska, Minnesota and Wisconsin combined. Granted Indiana has more than one FBS team where the others don't, still a shocker to me.

Another surprise to me was Florida producing more than California.

Why is Idaho and New Mexico in Division I football???
 

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RT, I was kidding about the state of Tennessee only having a few D1 players per year.....but my point was that Tennessee has to go out of state for most of their recruits. I think they have the biggest recruiting budget in the SEC (due to travel costs). Whereas UF can get in a car and drive less than 5 hours in any direction and come across 6,000 D1 recruits in any given year! (the 6,000 is being facetious also, so don't take it literal and post another chart/graph!! :D ).
 

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