Sometimes I wonder who is doing all of that clicking. It sure ain't me because my click finger would be quite raw if it was. However you can look back through the pages here and you will notice a pattern like you have pointed out twice so far on this page. Maybe it has something to do with Kenny (the shrink) and his sidekick Doug who had an NFL internet show that had me hopelessly hooked on this site from the very beginning. I've been known to post elsewhere but not often, and not like here. I've also let go of my NFL "fanship" and settled on CFB for my interest in sports gambling because to me college football represents the only TRUE sport in the chatrooms. But hoops is waiting in the wings for another go at it some day. I was getting pretty good there for a while too. You have it easy. All you need to do is ask yourself if I make sense or not and go with your own gut.
not a knock against you, but these thread titles, and the fact that it was a lull, innocuous period of the year, makes me think it was somehow getting picked up in a google search.
i mean..."nebraska update"
that is not (nor intended to be) a screen grabbing title for avg joe.
i mean..."nebraska update"
that is not (nor intended to be) a screen grabbing title for avg joe.
To be perfectrly honest about why the numbers are routinely as high as they are the Falls,
I have no idea but my threads get hit 1000's of times more than others. I'd like to think that
after 17 years, that might have something to do with it because I pull no punches and that
tells a lot about how I feel about someone who is the subject of the post. I am often right.
I have received email from a few well known columnists that are looking for an unfiltered POV.
That would mean you guys that your words and others that post here at the Rx are read by
people in high places. So if you dare to think that your posts have some significant meaning
and carry with them enough influence to move lines, don't underestimate your words and how
they might impact line movement. I know that sounds a bit lofty, but I've seen enough of it
to make a believer out of me. FWIW, I believe that this site has that kind of power over the
on-line gambling industry.
Right on Conan...you are correct that outsiders in high places read theRX CFB forum. As one coach told me, "I actually read the forum for information I might not know about other teams." I know there are at least three SEC assistants who check in occasionally...probably can multiply that when you consider the national picture.
Got to appreciate the loyal guys here who just love the subject and actually know something about the game during the off season.
Got to appreciate the loyal guys here who just love the subject and actually know something about the game during the off season.
Cloverleaf,
It's too bad that associating with this site can easily cast a Pete Rosish shadow over someone's reputation.
That's to bad because you don't need to gamble to have a thirst for Vegas odds and offshore gambling information.
Still it's best not to rock the boat if you would be taking a risk going public with any type of support for the Rx.
Yeap... it's too bad because I'd really like to see the Rx go viral, not to mention seeing a few Rx URL's here and
there laying around in some eyebrow raising places. (Like on Mark Emmert's* cell phone)
*NCAA President Mark Emmert
It's too bad that associating with this site can easily cast a Pete Rosish shadow over someone's reputation.
That's to bad because you don't need to gamble to have a thirst for Vegas odds and offshore gambling information.
Still it's best not to rock the boat if you would be taking a risk going public with any type of support for the Rx.
Yeap... it's too bad because I'd really like to see the Rx go viral, not to mention seeing a few Rx URL's here and
there laying around in some eyebrow raising places. (Like on Mark Emmert's* cell phone)
*NCAA President Mark Emmert
Conan, over the past few years I have been contacted if I or my 'gang' at the time would be willing to join a service. My answer was always NO! Rather help the average Joe win/break even than take them to the cleaners. I hate blood suckers...especially with college kids.
I learned the hard way....hoping some us veteran guys here at RX can better educate some of these NEW VIRGINS who don't have a clue
. Hurts me the bullshit these kids believe.
I learned the hard way....hoping some us veteran guys here at RX can better educate some of these NEW VIRGINS who don't have a clue
. Hurts me the bullshit these kids believe.
Interesting story:
Academic Leaders Question Oregon's Football Budget
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/29/academic-leaders-question-oregons-football-budget/
It would be really good if we were all in this together and the athletic department was trying to help the rest of the university,”Oregon economics professor Bill Harbaugh said.
Oregon football really cashed in this past year with an appearance in the College Football Playoff championship game, not to mention the revenue share it receives from the Pac-12 and any money funneled in through its relationship with Phil Knight of Nike. The problem some have with all of the money coming in through Oregon athletics is every dime of it is spent on athletics.
“They have $98 million in revenue and, strangely, exactly $98 million in expenses,” Howard explained. “If you look back year after year, you will find that revenue and expenses match up almost to a penny. … When they get extra TV revenue, they do what they just did in February. They go to the president and the Board of Trustees and the coaches and the athletic director get raises, so expenses go up.”
Academic Leaders Question Oregon's Football Budget
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/29/academic-leaders-question-oregons-football-budget/
It would be really good if we were all in this together and the athletic department was trying to help the rest of the university,”Oregon economics professor Bill Harbaugh said.
Oregon football really cashed in this past year with an appearance in the College Football Playoff championship game, not to mention the revenue share it receives from the Pac-12 and any money funneled in through its relationship with Phil Knight of Nike. The problem some have with all of the money coming in through Oregon athletics is every dime of it is spent on athletics.
“They have $98 million in revenue and, strangely, exactly $98 million in expenses,” Howard explained. “If you look back year after year, you will find that revenue and expenses match up almost to a penny. … When they get extra TV revenue, they do what they just did in February. They go to the president and the Board of Trustees and the coaches and the athletic director get raises, so expenses go up.”
Oregon also sells NFL parlay tickets, the proceeds from which are supposed to benefit athletics, but the way they go about balancing the books, the budget is what it is and where the money comes from is like one big slush fund (including the NFL parlay proceeds.)
Another issue that comes up is how Oregon's payroll compares to other similar programs around the country. Furthermore, has anyone seen any long term projects and maybe some related expenses that pertain to a "master plan." What are the goals of all of this growth and change when all is said and done? And if you really want to get down and dirty about it, isn't it common practice in nearly every government department to make good and sure it spends every dime it has appropriated to it, less any so-called savings is immediately confiscated and held out of future budgets?
What Phil Knight has done is to create a very profitable enterprise right under the noses of the state bureaucrats who are used to squabbling over every penny they are allotted to spend to satisfy their own interest. I view this report as just more of the same. Any reasonable person might figure that Knight might know a few things about managing an organization that would do these same bureaucrats some good albeit Knight doesn't have a bureaucracy to contend with the way those money grubbers in the state do.
From an accounting standpoint, Mark Helfrich is the highest paid state employee in Oregon to the tune of about $3 million per year... but so it is everywhere else. Is he worth it? Damn straight he is. His pay is not determined by how many degrees he has or his tenure like every other school professor or administrator. His pay is determined by economic factors found throughout our culture. Personally I would classify his job as entertainment industry related... specifically sports entertainment.
This whole affair surrounding college sports originated way back at a time when "boola boola" and "sis boom bah" were a relevant part of the nomenclature. Well guess what folks, times have changed, dramatically. Playing football was an afterthought and it was the degree one produced from receiving a scholarship that modeled what we call collegiate athletics today. The schools would appropriate money to fund a certain line item in its budget called "football" and like most college events it carried a profit and loss statement with a balance sheet that included all of its program related income and expenses.
As time went by, the old model morphed into something entirely different. Let's take football as a sport to cite as one that threatens to break the mold of being simply a line item in a university's yearly budget. Whereas the school lead by organizing the sport and funding it back in the day, now it appears to be pulled in the opposite direction. It's college football and the financial success it has become or soon will be that leads the schools where there is now a lot of money at stake. At least the smart ones know when it's time to leave well enough alone.
It is important to remember that a successful profit-making enterprise as college football has or will shortly become is driven by competition. People will pay big money to see a highly competitive event and they will stay away from games where there is no competition. It pays to be competitive. That idea can easily be expanded to cover a team's season or even more beyond that -- conferences, leagues, national championships. Competition puts a school on the map and in doing so, opens the door to unimaginable profits (you'll see.) That costs a lot of money if you are going to do it right. Either you are willing to pay the piper or someone else will and garner the lion's share of the rewards. Take Oregon football as a brand name today compared to when we were just beginning to take "brand names" seriously. As I recollect, it was Phil Knight who brought forth the "brand name" idea around the time the Ducks started wearing flashy new uniforms almost every week. That was just 4 or 5 years ago. Larry Scott took the idea of branding the Pac-12 and is still running with it as the conference bolsters its image as a tough place to play a quality football game.
First of all, $98 million means nothing without the full picture that includes future plans, rising cost projections and at least some sort of budget or business plan; make it real without all the hype.
Secondly, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave well enough alone because that "thing" that appears to be a cash cow in the making is still in its infancy. Give Knight and his compatriots the time they need or if they are willing, the state might wish to partner up with them to insure longevity -- see where this thing is going before you attempt to carve it up like a goose at the dinner table. Under no condition can the state or any state agency like the Dept. of Education impose any burden on the backs of the creators of this new-found wealth. Accept Knight's generosity as a gift which is all it ever was or will be. And as a special message to all of the bureaucrats and Department of Education lifers, please go about your squabbling as you always have without taking your eyes off of your own budgets.
Another issue that comes up is how Oregon's payroll compares to other similar programs around the country. Furthermore, has anyone seen any long term projects and maybe some related expenses that pertain to a "master plan." What are the goals of all of this growth and change when all is said and done? And if you really want to get down and dirty about it, isn't it common practice in nearly every government department to make good and sure it spends every dime it has appropriated to it, less any so-called savings is immediately confiscated and held out of future budgets?
What Phil Knight has done is to create a very profitable enterprise right under the noses of the state bureaucrats who are used to squabbling over every penny they are allotted to spend to satisfy their own interest. I view this report as just more of the same. Any reasonable person might figure that Knight might know a few things about managing an organization that would do these same bureaucrats some good albeit Knight doesn't have a bureaucracy to contend with the way those money grubbers in the state do.
From an accounting standpoint, Mark Helfrich is the highest paid state employee in Oregon to the tune of about $3 million per year... but so it is everywhere else. Is he worth it? Damn straight he is. His pay is not determined by how many degrees he has or his tenure like every other school professor or administrator. His pay is determined by economic factors found throughout our culture. Personally I would classify his job as entertainment industry related... specifically sports entertainment.
This whole affair surrounding college sports originated way back at a time when "boola boola" and "sis boom bah" were a relevant part of the nomenclature. Well guess what folks, times have changed, dramatically. Playing football was an afterthought and it was the degree one produced from receiving a scholarship that modeled what we call collegiate athletics today. The schools would appropriate money to fund a certain line item in its budget called "football" and like most college events it carried a profit and loss statement with a balance sheet that included all of its program related income and expenses.
As time went by, the old model morphed into something entirely different. Let's take football as a sport to cite as one that threatens to break the mold of being simply a line item in a university's yearly budget. Whereas the school lead by organizing the sport and funding it back in the day, now it appears to be pulled in the opposite direction. It's college football and the financial success it has become or soon will be that leads the schools where there is now a lot of money at stake. At least the smart ones know when it's time to leave well enough alone.
It is important to remember that a successful profit-making enterprise as college football has or will shortly become is driven by competition. People will pay big money to see a highly competitive event and they will stay away from games where there is no competition. It pays to be competitive. That idea can easily be expanded to cover a team's season or even more beyond that -- conferences, leagues, national championships. Competition puts a school on the map and in doing so, opens the door to unimaginable profits (you'll see.) That costs a lot of money if you are going to do it right. Either you are willing to pay the piper or someone else will and garner the lion's share of the rewards. Take Oregon football as a brand name today compared to when we were just beginning to take "brand names" seriously. As I recollect, it was Phil Knight who brought forth the "brand name" idea around the time the Ducks started wearing flashy new uniforms almost every week. That was just 4 or 5 years ago. Larry Scott took the idea of branding the Pac-12 and is still running with it as the conference bolsters its image as a tough place to play a quality football game.
First of all, $98 million means nothing without the full picture that includes future plans, rising cost projections and at least some sort of budget or business plan; make it real without all the hype.
Secondly, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Leave well enough alone because that "thing" that appears to be a cash cow in the making is still in its infancy. Give Knight and his compatriots the time they need or if they are willing, the state might wish to partner up with them to insure longevity -- see where this thing is going before you attempt to carve it up like a goose at the dinner table. Under no condition can the state or any state agency like the Dept. of Education impose any burden on the backs of the creators of this new-found wealth. Accept Knight's generosity as a gift which is all it ever was or will be. And as a special message to all of the bureaucrats and Department of Education lifers, please go about your squabbling as you always have without taking your eyes off of your own budgets.
Conan,
I totally agree w/ you. Football is totally separate from the academic side, although these are "student athletes". The Student-Athlete is given quite a bit as far as the academic side is concerned a portion of that $98 million is spent on scholarship expenses, tutors, books, labs, etc. So to say none of the money is going back into the university is sour grapes on behalf of this professor. Also, research has shown that a strong athletic program increases enrollment (student pride and desire to attend that university) as well as increase donations to the school (both for athletics and academics).
I totally agree w/ you. Football is totally separate from the academic side, although these are "student athletes". The Student-Athlete is given quite a bit as far as the academic side is concerned a portion of that $98 million is spent on scholarship expenses, tutors, books, labs, etc. So to say none of the money is going back into the university is sour grapes on behalf of this professor. Also, research has shown that a strong athletic program increases enrollment (student pride and desire to attend that university) as well as increase donations to the school (both for athletics and academics).
BigDaddy makes it too easy to guess who has been giving USC fits on the field. And as far as any possible national championship is concerned for the USC Trojans, face it BD, that road used to go through the coliseum and Los Angeles now it goes through Autzen Stadium in Eugene Oregon. Live with it if you are able. I say that because you haven't been doing a very good job of that lately. I think most Pac-12 football programs understand that and stand prepared to meet that challenge on the field of play where it belongs. You and your approach are useless. You represent a small contingent of name calling disgruntled fans with uncertainty between every line of trumped up confidence they try to project from the archives of what's old and stale. You just sit there and sizzle uselessly as you come up with more hype over what USC once was, and you are prepared to throw your head coach under the bus on a moments notice.
There is something else I want to take issue with you over. That being your position that since Oregon has never won a NC, they never will. To illustrate my point, take the Holiday bowl which used to be at one time the first bowl game in line behind the Rose Bowl insofar as what school plays in what bowl game. (Now it's the Alamo Bowl in the second spot behind the Rose Bowl.) The Ducks lost a couple of times before they were able to size up the situation and start winning the Holiday Bowl instead of losing it. That is a sign on an up and coming football program that is changing over the years for the better, not a perennial loser the way you see them. And so it goes for a national championship. The Ducks will win it one day, probably sooner than later. That is because they are not a perennial loser like you have them branded to be, but rather an up and coming football program that has only recently gotten a whiff of the success that lies just around the corner.
I'll try to make this quick.
Utah -- the sleeper in my book. They may not be ready to take the division but they will undoubtedly dole out some hurt to teams that are expected to be contenders. They are excellent spoilers.
ASU -- Man, I can't quite put my finger on it but they are running a quart low with respect to remaining the top dog in the division especially with the Wildcats constantly breathing down their necks. They appear to have USC's number but they will need a couple of more numbers to get where their fans want them to go. Speaking of USC, I'm quite sure that both Todd Graham and Rich Rodriguez have the Trojans outcoached.
Wazzou -- I don't see Mike Leach gaining much ground vs Oregon or Stanford as the conference goes, though a win against either would amount to a huge upset. It looks to me like that the Cougars will be losing ground to the Cal Bears this year. Eventually I can see them winning 8 games sooner or later but not likely sooner. It took Mike Price 10 years to develop his program in Eastern Washington because the Paloose is... well the Paloose. But he did pull it off back around the millennium and I don't believe that it will take a millennium for Leach to have a winning hand dealt to him one day. It appers that they might own the state of Washington for a little while which is a pretty good slap in the face for the Husky faithful to have to live with. But a Texas Tech WSU is not. They may put up points like they were though.
