Malcolm Butler

[Mobdeeper7239]

Altered the result is all Im saying. Yes, I realize there are 5-10 other reasons they lost but when a game comes down to The slimmest of margins then something like that certainly can be said to have swung the game.

A lot of variables can be said to have swung games, but dude getting benched 30 mins before kickoff is a big outlier. Something you don’t see every day.

I hear you. And if it was any other sport or any other game I would probably agree fully with you. Basketball definitely always changes things. Football greatest team sport tho. One player rarely ever makes the difference. Too much game planning and strategy involved. Real reason I think patriots Defense got fried was because Eagles off balanace play calling. Patriots had no clue what was coming.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Yeah, I see that. What I mean is, why not come out and say what happened? The players are mad, the fans are scratching their heads, and the media is looking for answers.
If you believe the you took the correct course of action, come out and describe what happened. Instead, the Defense Coordinator said it was about "packages" and Belichick said it was not a discipline issue.

Just how BB does things. Can’t say that really irks me or anything. Mostly after the fact stuff.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Philli torched the best D two weeks ago. Butler wasn't making a difference.

This was a perfect storm of a hot team with a hot qb playing well coming into the biggest game and NE just didn't have "it" this year.

Pats O was also humming though. Especially 2nd half.

If butler plays, he doesn’t have to make a massive difference to have an impact on the game. If Phi O is just slightly less effective then pretty good chance they take a loss.

 

[Cheddar]

No doubt. It was easy for anyone but a qb. If he was 10 years younger he probably catches it. His God like trainer not so God like.

Your husband dropped a pass you dumb fool

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Your husband dropped a pass you dumb fool

Lmao. You mad bro?

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Just heard on the radio...not confirmed.....butler late to a meeting and had weed on him....cussed out the coaching staff. Hmm I dno how Belichick handled it. Maybe told him before the game which would be belichicks fault if all is accurate. Should have told him earlier

 

[Acebb]

I'm not on board with Mob's Nuclear hot take here. I think Butler would have made a difference. He's a good tackler and the Pats had a lead with 5 mins to play.

 

[michael777]

have to play your best players in the Super Bowl,no excuses accepted,bad move by Bill

 

[slapshot]

Wilson Robbins now Butler hno:

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

I heard Eric Rowe was the #4 highest rated Patriot player going into that game. I thought he bad the best season out of all of their corners this year. Malcom Butler himself said he had a bad year.

 

[Enfuego]

have to play your best players in the Super Bowl,no excuses accepted,bad move by Bill

He's not one of their best players.

 

[Acebb]

Butler puts out a statement denying that he did anything wrong prior to the game.

I can't believe the Pats fans here aren't mad about this.

 

[Acebb]

He's not one of their best players.

Is that why he started and played 98% of snaps in 18 games this year?

 

[phdinsports]

Of course he could have made a difference! Pats DEFENSE allowed most points ever in a Super Bowl, without the aid of a turnover, or return!! It's not like it was a 21-13 final, where numerous defensive stops had been made. All it takes is one stop! He's better than their second corner or nickel back! Just look at the Super Bowl a few years back after Lane's pic and broken arm. Game changed. And who was it that really changed the game? Oh ya the guy that has no shot at making a difference!

 

[Enfuego]

Of course he could have made a difference! Pats DEFENSE allowed most points ever in a Super Bowl, without the aid of a turnover, or return!! It's not like it was a 21-13 final, where numerous defensive stops had been made. All it takes is one stop! He's better than their second corner or nickel back! Just look at the Super Bowl a few years back after Lane's pic and broken arm. Game changed. And who was it that really changed the game? Oh ya the guy that has no shot at making a difference!

The Redskins beat the Broncos in Super Bowl XXII 42-10.

 

[phdinsports]

The Redskins beat the Broncos in Super Bowl XXII 42-10.

Umm read my post, most points without the aid of a turnover, or return! Eagles scored 38 points. Elway had three pics that game two in the explosive second quarter!

 

[Willie99]

Butler puts out a statement denying that he did anything wrong prior to the game.

I can't believe the Pats fans here aren't mad about this.

I'm not mad, they've given us too much pleasure to be mad. We're fucking lucky

I'm a little dumbfounded, the move may have cost them the game. Butler may have made one of those tackles the Eagles kept breaking, a few on third down

One stop makes a difference, and there's evidently no good reason to bench him either

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

Of course he could have made a difference! Pats DEFENSE allowed most points ever in a Super Bowl, without the aid of a turnover, or return!! It's not like it was a 21-13 final, where numerous defensive stops had been made. All it takes is one stop! He's better than their second corner or nickel back! Just look at the Super Bowl a few years back after Lane's pic and broken arm. Game changed. And who was it that really changed the game? Oh ya the guy that has no shot at making a difference!

Seattles defense was full of playmakers. You can't lose a starter vs Brady.

As Enfuego stated, Butler was #42nd ranked cb.

Eric Rowe was #4 rated Patriot player going into that game. Eric Rowe had the best year out of any CB for the patriots. Better season than Malcom Butler.


People forget he came off the bench vs seattle to make that play. He was barely in the game before that drive. So he was a nobody who made a name for himself on the biggest stage. The chances of him being the star again or getting a turnover were very low considering Nick Foles accuracy.

 

[pete7713]

According to the Eagles' assistant, the plan was to go after backup cornerback Eric Rowe because "we could get Alshon [Jeffery] out there against him."


And why were the Eagles so confident that Rowe was a liability?
"We had Rowe on our team here in Philly, we knew that was a mismatch," he said.
For some context, Butler played 1,038 snaps during the regular season, roughly 97 percent of the Patriots' total defensive snaps. Rowe, meanwhile, was on the field for just 261 snaps. And while Butler didn't have a great 2017 campaign -- he even characterized it as a "sh---y season" -- he graded out much better than Rowe; Pro Football Focus ranked him 48th among all NFLcornerbacks; Rowe was 188th out of 209.
This probably goes a long way in explaining why Rowe was surprised to learn he was starting.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Seattles defense was full of playmakers. You can't lose a starter vs Brady.

As Enfuego stated, Butler was #42nd ranked cb.

Eric Rowe was #4 rated Patriot player going into that game. Eric Rowe had the best year out of any CB for the patriots. Better season than Malcom Butler.


People forget he came off the bench vs seattle to make that play. He was barely in the game before that drive. So he was a nobody who made a name for himself on the biggest stage. The chances of him being the star again or getting a turnover were very low considering Nick Foles accuracy.

Butler was 48th this year in PFF rankings, 5th last year and 22nd the year before. I already provided context to why he was 48th (abysmal start for the entire NE secondary)

He's a way better player than Eric Rowe, anyone who follows football would tell you that. You're just reaching.