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I, along with about a million members of the Unity Christian church and various other Christian denominations do just that.
We've adopted the core principles of Christ's message (Practice Unconditional Love and Unconditional Forgiveness) because we've learned that therein lies the salvation of the soul.
While other Christian sects promote other requirements in order to be "saved", we respectfully give them a hat tip and wish them well.
I mean, it's not as if any of us could screw it up. We've all been blessed with life eternal and each of us will of our own free will eventually make choices that move us to a higher level of spiritual understanding.
But along the way, it helps to ignore those who honestly feel compelled to gravely warn you that "you're going to Hell if xxxxxx". Being motivated by a fictional forecast is not a wise use of one's time.
Barman,
You never answered my reply to this the last time you posted this.
You throw out this lie that most Christians don't believe in hell, calling
yourself a Christian, but then you throw out this really twisted idea
that the whole universe passes judgment on people on the fly - and
act like this is a "Christian" teaching. With all due respect, this
concept is quite non-Christian, and frankly I'd like to hear you try and
explain it.
Please explain how this works, for example with the guy in Austria
that kept his kids in a dungeon underground for 24 years while he
raped them repeatedly. I'm wondering how the universe in it's
infinite wisdom was doling out judgment at that point?
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*Imagining a Higher Power who will toss you into an everlasting lake of fire if you don't measure up is admittedly sobering. I wince for those who lead their lives with this sword dangling over their head
*Many of us Christians don't perceive that mankind is "going to be held accountable" at some distant future date (after death).
Rather, we perceive that mankind is immediately at this moment held accountable for all our decisions and the universe in it's infinite intelligence passes immediate judgement.
Reminds me of a preacher I heard once who gravely intoned, "Some day when you stand before God...."
And I thought, "I'm pretty sure I'm standing before God Right Now."
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"Rather, we perceive that mankind is immediately at this moment held accountable for all our decisions and the universe in it's infinite intelligence passes immediate judgement."
Please explain how this theory of yours works, for example in the case of
the guy in Austria that built a dungeon in the ground that he kept
his kids in, as he raped them for 24 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case
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</td></tr></tbody></table>We've waged this battle before DEAC. I can call you a kook for
believing that mankind evolved from swamp goo, or maybe
believing in alien sperm seeding life on earth?
I believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, if that makes me a kook,
then you'll have to call 2/3 of American's kooks.
I also believe it takes much more blind faith to believe in
the religion of Darwinism than Christianity. We'll have to
agree to disagree.
ZIT, as you can see from the above pasted post supplied by you personally, I did not submit, "Most Christians believe...."
Rather, I submitted, "Many Christians believe...."
I stand by my submission since I am one of those many and we're rocking along with wonderful lives enhanced by our understanding and practice of Christian gospel principles.
I fully acknowledge that not all sects of Christianity share our interppretations and that's all good.
Any portion that any of you (or we) screw up is forgiven by an all loving God. She wants nothing but our continued spiritual progression.
Rather, I submitted, "Many Christians believe...."
I stand by my submission since I am one of those many and we're rocking along with wonderful lives enhanced by our understanding and practice of Christian gospel principles.
I fully acknowledge that not all sects of Christianity share our interppretations and that's all good.
Any portion that any of you (or we) screw up is forgiven by an all loving God. She wants nothing but our continued spiritual progression.
Yes...but there will be Tsunami's On the West Coast From Vancouver To Southern California...
Jericho is an American serial drama that centers on the residents of the fictional town of Jericho, Kansas in the aftermath of nuclear attacks on 23 major cities in the contiguous United States. Produced by CBS Paramount Network Television, with executive producers Jon Turteltaub, Stephen Chbosky, and Carol Barbee, the show was broadcast in more than 30 countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_(TV_series)
Is A Tsunami Heading for the Pacific USA?
There have been a lot of strange rumblings lately about something big and bad headed for the Pacific Northwest. The most recent and public of them comes from none other than Pat Robertson:
Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson says God told him storms and possibly a tsunami will hit America’s coastline this year.
Robertson has made the predictions at least four times in the past two weeks on his news-and-talk television show “The 700 Club” on the Christian Broadcasting Network, which he founded. Robertson said the revelations about this year’s weather came to him during his annual personal prayer retreat in January.
“If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms,” Robertson said May 8. Wednesday, he added, “there well may be something as bad as a tsunami in the Pacific Northwest.”
That’s a pretty strange thing to say, right? Well, it gets a little stranger… Next week from the 23rd to 25th of May, FEMA is holding “Pacific Peril” - a “3 Day Multi-State Tsunami Exercise”:
SEATTLE, Wash. — The U.S. Department of Transportation in cooperation with Federal, State, local, and Canadian partners will host PACIFIC PERIL 06 from 23-25 May 2006 at Camp Rilea on the NW Oregon Coast. The three-day event will consist of a “training dayâ€� presenting earthquake and tsunami hazards and response plans, a full day Command Post Exercise (CPX) and a final table top review. The exercise play postulates a catastrophic seismic event that triggers a massive tsunami that devastates Pacific coastal communities from British Columbia to northern California. The Government of Canada, including the Province of British Columbia and the City of Vancouver, are also engaged in exercise play.
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/05/19/is-there-a-tsunami-heading-for-the-pacific-usa/
"Pacific Peril" - 3 Day Multi-State Tsunami Exercise Begins 23 May, 2006
Release Date: May 8, 2006
Release Number: R10-06-011
» 2006 Region X News Releases
SEATTLE, Wash. -- The U.S. Department of Transportation in cooperation with Federal, State, local, and Canadian partners will host PACIFIC PERIL 06 from 23-25 May 2006 at Camp Rilea on the NW Oregon Coast. The three-day event will consist of a “training day” presenting earthquake and tsunami hazards and response plans, a full day Command Post Exercise (CPX) and a final table top review. The exercise play postulates a catastrophic seismic event that triggers a massive tsunami that devastates Pacific coastal communities from British Columbia to northern California. The Government of Canada, including the Province of British Columbia and the City of Vancouver, are also engaged in exercise play.
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=25962
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You are ill-informed...THE 1611 KJV is the only Bible not to have been tampered with...but it is still mis-interpreted. The Bible is eclectic, and thus cannot be all true or all false....Because of Forgeries on behalf of Pauls Name, we have two Christs being talked about in the Bible. The Mystical One, which is Gnostic...and the historical one which is Roman.....Only 1 of them is true....
Loren,
Your statement about the 1611 KJV is strange, and your statement
about Josephus is wrong. BTW, there were many english versions
of the Bible long before the 1611 KJV, including the Geneva Bible,
the Bishop's Bible, Wycliffe Bible, and Tyndale bible. The Wycliffe
Bible dates back to the 1300's.
Josephus:
Testimonium Flavianum
The following passage appears in the Greek version of Antiquities of the Jews 18.63-64, in the translation of William Whiston:
<sup>3.3</sup> Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
For those too lazy for real research, or bored by the tedium of actual study, conspiracy theories offer simple sense to the tangled skein of events that all-too-often have no one meaning.
Or, when the accepted interpretation of events do not please the theorizer (because they are not dramatic enough) they will spin webs of evil manipulators pulling the strings of marionette history.
Loren is not a scholar nor very smart
Or, when the accepted interpretation of events do not please the theorizer (because they are not dramatic enough) they will spin webs of evil manipulators pulling the strings of marionette history.
Loren is not a scholar nor very smart
For those too lazy for real research, or bored by the tedium of actual study, conspiracy theories offer simple sense to the tangled skein of events that all-too-often have no one meaning.
Or, when the accepted interpretation of events do not please the theorizer (because they are not dramatic enough) they will spin webs of evil manipulators pulling the strings of marionette history.
Loren is not a scholar nor very smart
Bingo.
It's about 1200 pages, please tell me which ones are forged?
@)
So now we are tossing out full fledged books in support of his works? Outside of Josephus (who was likely a PISO SCRIBE-Look that one up) there is no proof for this Jesus' Existence....The Christ is another story as one has nothing to do with the other...
He was born some time after "alleged" crucifixion...in Jerusalem, and thus would have known about the great Messianic Hope....Read his supposed works...he goes on and on about the failed messianic hopefuls....but barely mentions a word about Jesus.....
And do not ever Present contemporary Apologetic Giberish To me as proof of something ever again.....that shyt is nauseating.....
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