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DID YOU PRAY THAT PRAYER AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS THREAD TO GOD?

  • YES

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  • NO

    Votes: 19 32.8%
  • I ALREADY PRAYED ACCEPTED JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD AND SAVIOR

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"And many of those who are Christians disagree just as much with other denominations as they do with other religions."

Um... name one Christian denomination that disagrees with *any* point
of the Nicene Creed, which has been in existence since 325 AD.

<dl><dd>We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible.</dd><dd>And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father.</dd><dd>God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.</dd><dd>Who for us humanity and for our salvation came down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human, was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit.</dd><dd>By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance.</dd><dd>He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven with the same body, [and] sat at the right hand of the Father.</dd><dd>He is to come with the same body and with the glory of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His kingdom there is no end.</dd><dd>We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets, and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan, preached through the apostles, and lived in the saints.</dd><dd>We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic, and [Holy] Church; in one baptism in repentance, for the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgement of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and in the everlasting life.<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference"></sup></dd></dl>

You continue to annoy me with your ignorance...

Real Christians Know Jesus was Not Born of a Virgin....Mary Is Not The Mother of God.....Catholicism is not Christianity.....It is Masonic through and through....
 

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We've been through this already.

Yep.

Unity Christians, Episcopalians, many sects of Catholicism and other smaller sects of millions of people who follow Christian principles do not subscribe to every tenet cited in the Nicean creed.

And we have great lives and wonderful spiritual relationships with the Christ, as well as other Master Teachers from down through the ages and including on Earth today.

Fundy Christians would like for us to not exist, but it's all good.
 
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You continue to annoy me with your ignorance...

Real Christians Know Jesus was Not Born of a Virgin....Mary Is Not The Mother of God.....Catholicism is not Christianity.....It is Masonic through and through....

Loren,

You calling me ignorant? ROFL.

#1. The history of freemasonry before ~1700 is not well documented,
and is highly speculative.

Origin theories of speculative freemasonry

In its ritual context, Freemasonry employs an allegorical foundation myth: the foundation of the fraternity by the builders of King Solomon’s Temple.
Beyond myth, there is a distinct absence of documentation as to Freemasonry’s origins, which has led to a great deal of speculation among historians and pseudo-historians alike, both from within and from outside the fraternity. Hundreds of books have been written on the subject. Much of the content of these books is highly speculative, and the precise origins of Freemasonry may very well be permanently lost to history. Some believe the scant evidence that is available points to the origins of Freemasonry as a fraternity that simply evolved out of the lodges of operative stonemasons of the Middle Ages. Others have disputed whether stone masons were ever organized formally into guilds, and have criticized the suggestion that Freemasonry evolved out of such organizations as a trite myth, stemming merely from the fact that the fraternity uses stone masonry as the core allegory for the organization of its symbolism. In any event, the matter of the origins of Freemasonry continues to puzzle and mystify historians.


#2. Roman Catholicism is a mixture of Christianity and Paganism


See the classic work on the subject by Alex. Hislop:


 

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If you're referring to the difference between Protestants and Catholics,
which point of the Nicene do they differ?

You can continue to pretend that you're all unified, but if that were actually true there wouldn't be 30,000 different Christian sects.

Of that 30,000, I would bet that most don't believe in talking donkeys.
 
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Yep.

Unity Christians, Episcopalians, many sects of Catholicism and other smaller sects of millions of people who follow Christian principles do not subscribe to every tenet cited in the Nicean creed.

And we have great lives and wonderful spiritual relationships with the Christ, as well as other Master Teachers from down through the ages and including on Earth today.

Fundy Christians would like for us to not exist, but it's all good.

The only part of the Nicene Creed that is in dispute involving
Episcopalians and Roman Catholics, and the rest of Christianity is
a very minor wording - whether or not the Holy Spirit proceeded from
the Father, or the Father and the Son.

So, Barman's comment is extremely misleading. Besides, the fact that
he misspelled "Nicene Creed" might give some insight on his
knowledge in the matter.

And, his comment about "Fundy Christians" not wanting
his sect members to exist is not a fair comment either.
 
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You can continue to pretend that you're all unified, but if that were actually true there wouldn't be 30,000 different Christian sects.

Of that 30,000, I would bet that most don't believe in talking donkeys.

I'll bet most do indeed take the historical story of Balaam's Ass to be literal.

Why highlight that story anyway, it's not any harder to believe that
a donkey talked than it is to believe that Jesus walked on water,
or turned water into wine.
 

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Loren has zero idea of what hes talking about

he takes everything, I mean everything as truth and his word from a 1000+ page book entitled

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

he has zero original thought or research

from the connecting of masonry with the vatican to every other bs theory hes indoctrinated to

theres always some truth sprinkled in with his nonsense

if youre interested in a group of messianics, who believe yashua was real and the son of god

yet not born of a virgin mary, what they believe the pagan romans added to the story

They also do not use the gospel of paul as they believe it also to have been added by pagan rome to the book

http://ebionite.org/ interesting viewpoints nonetheless
 

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You can continue to pretend that you're all unified, but if that were actually true there wouldn't be 30,000 different Christian sects.

That's the part most of us Christians realize and with which few of us have any complaint.

It's not as if anyone can screw it up. Any errors that any of us make on the overall topic are forgiven by God, as She wants nothing more than our continued and eternal spiritual progression.
 

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Why highlight that story anyway, it's not any harder to believe that
a donkey talked than it is to believe that Jesus walked on water,
or turned water into wine.

Uh yeah, actually it is for most of us. Since donkeys don't have vocal cords or tongues capable of forming speech, nor do they have the spiritual capacity to alter their physiology as would a human being living in a higher stage of enlightenment.

That is, unless one subscribes to the notion that donkeys could somehow raise themselves to a level of spiritual enlightenment on par with humans.

If that happens to be your belief, don't let me obstruct you. Rock on.
 
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Loren has zero idea of what hes talking about

he takes everything, I mean everything as truth and his word from a 1000+ page book entitled

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

he has zero original thought or research

from the connecting of masonry with the vatican to every other bs theory hes indoctrinated to

theres always some truth sprinkled in with his nonsense

if youre interested in a group of messianics, who believe yashua was real and the son of god

yet not born of a virgin mary, what they believe the pagan romans added to the story

They also do not use the gospel of paul as they believe it also to have been added by pagan rome to the book

http://ebionite.org/ interesting viewpoints nonetheless


VaticanAssassins.org claims that the Vatican is responsible for
9/11. Is that what Loren believes?

Therefore, for challenging the Pope's Temporal Power, in attempting to thwart Rome's grand design against the peoples of the world, John F. Kennedy, America's first Roman Catholic President, was brutally murdered in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, by the soldiers of Francis Cardinal Spellman within the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service, Military Intelligence and the Mafia.

On September 11, 2001 this same Intelligence Network, overseen by New York Archbishop Edward Cardinal Egan being under the supervision of Jesuit General Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, attacked and destroyed the Twin Towers of New York's World Trade Center and partially destroyed the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. These acts of high treason against the American People have now justified our present Crusade against Islam, surnamed "the war against terrorism", and heartily endorsed by the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists to the detriment of the beloved, racially Jewish People in Israel. This "war on terrorism" is to the exclusion of notorious Jesuit-trained terrorists and mass murderers such as Fidel Castro of communist Cuba and Gerry Adams of Ireland's Irish Republican Army.
 

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VaticanAssassins.org claims that the Vatican is responsible for
9/11. Is that what Loren believes?

Therefore, for challenging the Pope's Temporal Power, in attempting to thwart Rome's grand design against the peoples of the world, John F. Kennedy, America's first Roman Catholic President, was brutally murdered in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, by the soldiers of Francis Cardinal Spellman within the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service, Military Intelligence and the Mafia.

On September 11, 2001 this same Intelligence Network, overseen by New York Archbishop Edward Cardinal Egan being under the supervision of Jesuit General Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, attacked and destroyed the Twin Towers of New York's World Trade Center and partially destroyed the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. These acts of high treason against the American People have now justified our present Crusade against Islam, surnamed "the war against terrorism", and heartily endorsed by the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists to the detriment of the beloved, racially Jewish People in Israel. This "war on terrorism" is to the exclusion of notorious Jesuit-trained terrorists and mass murderers such as Fidel Castro of communist Cuba and Gerry Adams of Ireland's Irish Republican Army.

I differ with Phelps on several areas...the obvious one being that I am Gnostic...He is Literal..... believes that Christ was a man...and two that the Jews are the "Lords Chosen People"......But as far as 911 is concerned, The Jesuit Order seated behind the Vatican was responsible....

In Tom Hanks new movie...These Monsters try to get you to believe that the Vatican itself is the victim.....and that the Illuminati (ie Jews) are the culprit...

As usual...The Truth is usually the reverse...
 

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Loren,

You calling me ignorant? ROFL.

#1. The history of freemasonry before ~1700 is not well documented,
and is highly speculative.

Origin theories of speculative freemasonry

In its ritual context, Freemasonry employs an allegorical foundation myth: the foundation of the fraternity by the builders of King Solomon’s Temple.
Beyond myth, there is a distinct absence of documentation as to Freemasonry’s origins, which has led to a great deal of speculation among historians and pseudo-historians alike, both from within and from outside the fraternity. Hundreds of books have been written on the subject. Much of the content of these books is highly speculative, and the precise origins of Freemasonry may very well be permanently lost to history. Some believe the scant evidence that is available points to the origins of Freemasonry as a fraternity that simply evolved out of the lodges of operative stonemasons of the Middle Ages. Others have disputed whether stone masons were ever organized formally into guilds, and have criticized the suggestion that Freemasonry evolved out of such organizations as a trite myth, stemming merely from the fact that the fraternity uses stone masonry as the core allegory for the organization of its symbolism. In any event, the matter of the origins of Freemasonry continues to puzzle and mystify historians.


#2. Roman Catholicism is a mixture of Christianity and Paganism


See the classic work on the subject by Alex. Hislop:



Highly speculative? 1700 ? Its as old as Hinduism.....lol
 
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By Michael Savage

In George Orwell’s book "1984" the slogan of the dictatorship was “Big Brother Is Watching You.” In Obama’s America, Janet Napolitano is in charge of homeland security, so the slogan could well be changed to “Big Sister Is Watching You.”

It turns out that Big Sis has just issued a report warns against the possibility of violence by so-called "right-wing extremists." And what does Big Sis say these right-wingers are concerned about? Illegal aliens, the increasing power of the federal government, gun grabs, abortion and the loss of U.S. national sovereignty. In other words, anyone who is worried about preserving our borders, language, and culture is on Big Sis’ watch list.

But here’s something else that the headlines don’t tell you. The report says that these dangerous right wingers engage in “exploitation of social issues such as … same-sex marriage.” What this means is that even though state after state has rejected gay marriage every time it has been put to a vote of the people, if you oppose the destruction of traditional marriage, if you oppose the gay mafia, then you are suspect. If you aren’t happy with her “lifestyle choice” Big Sis will put you on her list. It seems that rogue homosexual elements within Homeland Security are engaging in extra-constitutional activity. Where is the Republican Party to protect us from this rogue Obama government? Who will be next on the list? The Navy SEALs that shot the Somali pirates? Talk show hosts? Only Big Sis knows for sure.

This is not the first time this has come up. Last month, I told you on The Savage Nation about “fusion centers.” What’s a fusion center you ask? They’re a set of local intelligence centers across the country created by Big Sis and the Department of Homeland Security to combat terrorism and related criminal activity. I told you that, according to a report by one of these fusion centers, if you’re an anti-abortion activist, if you’ve supported third party presidential candidates like Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr, if you believe in the idea that the U.S., Mexico and Canada will someday form a North American Union, then you may be specially targeted by Big Sis. And now we know the problem is even worse than we thought.
 

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Has Mike Savage prayed the Special Prayer that buys the Golden Ticket into Heaven?

If not, I think there's a chance pasting his rant might derail the intent of this here thread

:drink:
 

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Yeah I think Michael Savage's prayers all begin with "Baruch Atah Adonai."
 

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Well, the SheBar informs me that word is pronounced "Bah-ruck" and not "Bah-ruke", but it's too late

Your post made me think of this great punk rocker

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"You're not like other girls..."
 

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WOW...this one comes with severely Loud Fucking Volume

So if you need to dust your curtains, play now and thank me later

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SCOTT L, describe in 25 words or less the looks of girls that have rolled up on you in a club and requested either of the two above songs.
 

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Bar it has never happened. I get asked for Katy Perri and Flo-rida these days. Back in the day it was more of a variety but everywhere I played including clubs or private parties it's been Top 40, Dance, R&B, or oldies like Motown. Now it's mostly Pop, House music and Hip Hop. Right now the hottest songs out are Jamie Fox' "Blame It" and Flo-Rida's "Sugar."
 
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