"And many of those who are Christians disagree just as much with other denominations as they do with other religions."
Um... name one Christian denomination that disagrees with *any* point
of the Nicene Creed, which has been in existence since 325 AD.
<dl><dd>We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible.</dd><dd>And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father.</dd><dd>God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.</dd><dd>Who for us humanity and for our salvation came down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human, was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit.</dd><dd>By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance.</dd><dd>He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven with the same body, [and] sat at the right hand of the Father.</dd><dd>He is to come with the same body and with the glory of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His kingdom there is no end.</dd><dd>We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets, and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan, preached through the apostles, and lived in the saints.</dd><dd>We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic, and [Holy] Church; in one baptism in repentance, for the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgement of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and in the everlasting life.<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference"></sup></dd></dl>
We've been through this already.
You continue to annoy me with your ignorance...
Real Christians Know Jesus was Not Born of a Virgin....Mary Is Not The Mother of God.....Catholicism is not Christianity.....It is Masonic through and through....
If you're referring to the difference between Protestants and Catholics,
which point of the Nicene do they differ?
Yep.
Unity Christians, Episcopalians, many sects of Catholicism and other smaller sects of millions of people who follow Christian principles do not subscribe to every tenet cited in the Nicean creed.
And we have great lives and wonderful spiritual relationships with the Christ, as well as other Master Teachers from down through the ages and including on Earth today.
Fundy Christians would like for us to not exist, but it's all good.
You can continue to pretend that you're all unified, but if that were actually true there wouldn't be 30,000 different Christian sects.
Of that 30,000, I would bet that most don't believe in talking donkeys.
You can continue to pretend that you're all unified, but if that were actually true there wouldn't be 30,000 different Christian sects.
Why highlight that story anyway, it's not any harder to believe that
a donkey talked than it is to believe that Jesus walked on water,
or turned water into wine.
Loren has zero idea of what hes talking about
he takes everything, I mean everything as truth and his word from a 1000+ page book entitled
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/
he has zero original thought or research
from the connecting of masonry with the vatican to every other bs theory hes indoctrinated to
theres always some truth sprinkled in with his nonsense
if youre interested in a group of messianics, who believe yashua was real and the son of god
yet not born of a virgin mary, what they believe the pagan romans added to the story
They also do not use the gospel of paul as they believe it also to have been added by pagan rome to the book
http://ebionite.org/ interesting viewpoints nonetheless
VaticanAssassins.org claims that the Vatican is responsible for
9/11. Is that what Loren believes?
Therefore, for challenging the Pope's Temporal Power, in attempting to thwart Rome's grand design against the peoples of the world, John F. Kennedy, America's first Roman Catholic President, was brutally murdered in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, by the soldiers of Francis Cardinal Spellman within the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service, Military Intelligence and the Mafia.
On September 11, 2001 this same Intelligence Network, overseen by New York Archbishop Edward Cardinal Egan being under the supervision of Jesuit General Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, attacked and destroyed the Twin Towers of New York's World Trade Center and partially destroyed the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. These acts of high treason against the American People have now justified our present Crusade against Islam, surnamed "the war against terrorism", and heartily endorsed by the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists to the detriment of the beloved, racially Jewish People in Israel. This "war on terrorism" is to the exclusion of notorious Jesuit-trained terrorists and mass murderers such as Fidel Castro of communist Cuba and Gerry Adams of Ireland's Irish Republican Army.
Loren,
You calling me ignorant? ROFL.
#1. The history of freemasonry before ~1700 is not well documented,
and is highly speculative.
Origin theories of speculative freemasonry
In its ritual context, Freemasonry employs an allegorical foundation myth: the foundation of the fraternity by the builders of King Solomon’s Temple.
Beyond myth, there is a distinct absence of documentation as to Freemasonry’s origins, which has led to a great deal of speculation among historians and pseudo-historians alike, both from within and from outside the fraternity. Hundreds of books have been written on the subject. Much of the content of these books is highly speculative, and the precise origins of Freemasonry may very well be permanently lost to history. Some believe the scant evidence that is available points to the origins of Freemasonry as a fraternity that simply evolved out of the lodges of operative stonemasons of the Middle Ages. Others have disputed whether stone masons were ever organized formally into guilds, and have criticized the suggestion that Freemasonry evolved out of such organizations as a trite myth, stemming merely from the fact that the fraternity uses stone masonry as the core allegory for the organization of its symbolism. In any event, the matter of the origins of Freemasonry continues to puzzle and mystify historians.
#2. Roman Catholicism is a mixture of Christianity and Paganism
See the classic work on the subject by Alex. Hislop: