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teams dont give a rats ass about bowl games minus the national championship, combined with the fact that they wait like 50 days to play them just proves that. give me a break you mean to tell me florida cared about winning the outback bowl all those years, just not the case.

seriously, have you ever played sports in your life. I always hear the, this team doesn't care about that bowl game argument. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you have played sports and were any kind of competitor than you would know that you give your all and try to win every game you play in. I have never talked to an athlete in my life that said he didn't give his all because he didn't care about a certain game. Why is it that when Michigan looses to USC in the rose bowl they suck but when UF looses to Michigan they didn't care about the game. (Oh I know why, because it doesn't fit your argument as well when you have to count all the games.) Every game counts whether you want to believe it or not. Urban Myer puts in just as much time when prepairing for the capitol one bowl as he does for the fiesta bowl. Sorry to ruin your fantasy, but if your going to call all 11 big 10 teams slow than you have to look at the records of all 11 teams. Not just Ohio State. You can't just use games that support your argument, sorry. Look at the whole story, not the first paragraph.
 

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seriously, have you ever played sports in your life. I always hear the, this team doesn't care about that bowl game argument. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you have played sports and were any kind of competitor than you would know that you give your all and try to win every game you play in. I have never talked to an athlete in my life that said he didn't give his all because he didn't care about a certain game. Why is it that when Michigan looses to USC in the rose bowl they suck but when UF looses to Michigan they didn't care about the game. (Oh I know why, because it doesn't fit your argument as well when you have to count all the games.) Every game counts whether you want to believe it or not. Urban Myer puts in just as much time when prepairing for the capitol one bowl as he does for the fiesta bowl. Sorry to ruin your fantasy, but if your going to call all 11 big 10 teams slow than you have to look at the records of all 11 teams. Not just Ohio State. You can't just use games that support your argument, sorry. Look at the whole story, not the first paragraph.
Sorry but that why they call them " Spots " . That's been one of the biggest secrets of successful gambling. Look aheads etc works in gambling. GL in today's games I'm off to the Casinos to make some easy $$ !
 

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Sorry but that why they call them " Spots " . That's been one of the biggest secrets of successful gambling. Look aheads etc works in gambling. GL in today's games I'm off to the Casinos to make some easy $$ !

You are 100% correct. Spots are were its at. I bet "spots" in the NFL every week. But for a bowl game everybody is rested and ready to play. There isn't 3 straight road games, or sandwhich games between 2 good teams, or games after playing a really physical team like Pittsburg. Every team is as close to being 100% as possible because of the long layoff. Now can a team need a win more than another team, or can a team be rusty. Yes but you can't discount the scores of the games. And you can't say the SEC doesn't care but the other conferences do care.

Good luck with your wagers this weekend my friend.
 

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floridas defense is suspect? i think you need to study a little bit before making such a stupid statement. once again big ten is nothing but a slow conference, whenever they face anyone in a "major" conference they lose and lose big and it will be the same this year.

Penn State has more team speed than every team in the SEC and than USC. Care to refute that statement?

PSU has four receivers who run sub 4.4 40's. They have a secondary with three corners that run 4.3 40's. They have two of the fastest half backs in America. Their QB has more speed than almost every QB in the country. Their linebackers are fast and two of their defense lineman run Sub 4.6 40's. I'll be waiting for you to call PSU slow. I want you to find me one team in the SEC or the country, that is faster than PSU. please get back to me. You're just listening to the past critiques on the Big Ten and have nothing new to say about them.

If you think PSU is slow and lacks team speed then you haven't been watching football this year. PSU's line would also beat up any line in football.
 
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OMG STOP WITH THIS BULL! PSU wouldn't come close to pulling it off? PSU STOPPED PLAYING AND DOMINATED. THEY COULD HAVE WON BY 80. Did OSU not have their entire team out there? Is the home field really a 50 point differential?

I will bet you any amount of money in the world that an undefeated PSU team will get into the title game. You're a moron. Plain and simple. They're already going to be in the top 4, possibly 3, and if they go undefeated they'll get to 2 or 1. You are a fool. You are biased and have no clue what you're talking about. All the USC backers are tools. Let me get this straight.

Since the Big Ten was embarrassed in a big bowl game last year they shouldn't get in this year? That's the stupidest logic I've ever heard. So should LSU still get in because they were so good last year?

PSU has dominated it's competition. They haven't just beaten them, they've destroyed them. The Big 10 had more ranked teams than your beloved Pac 10 coming into today. They're a better conferene. USC blew their load again; GET OVER IT.

Stop with the "They'd beat anyone 4 out of 7 times" bullshit. What sucks is you say something like that so if PSU or an SEC team does play USC and wins you'll say I said 4 out of 7.

Sanchez is overrated, their defense is overrated and so are their receivers. PSU is a more complete team. They play great defense, special teams and offense. Who cares how good the Big Ten was last year? Who cares what OSU has done? Why does that matter for what PSU has done?

PSU has shown this season that they are one of the elite teams in college football. Get over your bullshit USC cock gargling. It's annoying and really fucking retarded.

PSU has better receivers, a better QB, a better secondary and better Special Teams than USC.

PSU can play with any team in America on a neutral field.

Elite team? They prove this by playing a horrible schedule which goes along with the watered down conference they are in. It is comical that you actually believe they are an elite team. They are middle of the pack in the SEC. USC would destroy them if they met.
 
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Penn State has more team speed than every team in the SEC and than USC. Care to refute that statement?

PSU has four receivers who run sub 4.4 40's. They have a secondary with three corners that run 4.3 40's. They have two of the fastest half backs in America. Their QB has more speed than almost every QB in the country. Their linebackers are fast and two of their defense lineman run Sub 4.6 40's. I'll be waiting for you to call PSU slow. I want you to find me one team in the SEC or the country, that is faster than PSU. please get back to me. You're just listening to the past critiques on the Big Ten and have nothing new to say about them.

If you think PSU is slow and lacks team speed then you haven't been watching football this year. PSU's line would also beat up any line in football.

LMFAO

Florida for instance is filled with track star speed all over the offense & defense. You seriously need to get a clue if you think Penn State is faster than a Florida, LSU, etc...
 

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Is football a track meet? Someone should sign Bolt
 

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I just returned from the Las Vegas Hilton here in Las Vegas. Before I tell you what the odds are on the BCS , Just take a guess what team is the big favorite and also guess by what odds !
 
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Don't say it-all you'll do is send Timely Hitting into another Penn State tirade.
 

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:lol: at Penn State. I actually kinda hope they do make it to the championship game. Maybe a humiliation there will finally push JoePa out.

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LMFAO

Florida for instance is filled with track star speed all over the offense & defense. You seriously need to get a clue if you think Penn State is faster than a Florida, LSU, etc...

You have yet to refute my point. I'm waiting. Is 4.4 and 4.3 not track star speed?

PSU's corners and receivers are as fast, if not faster, than any team in the country. Their QB is fast and they have two lineman that have incredible speed. They have linebackers that run 4.5's. All you say is no, how can you argue with forty times? You can't run much faster than they do. I'm waiting.

Amazing how no one gives credit to them.

You just said they're not an elite team. They're the third ranked team in America! They're undefeated and they've won every game that's been scheduled. They're elite. Don't be an idiot!

Amazing how big of a moron you are as well.
 

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Also can I ask this question.

At this point in the season who has a higher SOS; PSU or LSU? Why don't you look it up and give me an answer. I'll be waiting.
 

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OK I'm back with the latest BCS odds from the Las Vegas Hilton
USC is 9/5 favorite
 

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I don't care what anyone says or argues. As of right now the two best teams in America are Texas and Penn State. I know a lot of people hate on the Big Ten but Penn State is damn good. I've watched every game they've played this year, obviously, and they may be the best team in America. They are great offensively, defensively and on special teams.

As much as I like to argue about stuff... I completely agree with this post.

Boise State for the title game though!
 

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Please tell me that you're kidding
Obviously they have way too much $$ on USC as after they lost the odds went up to 25/1 That was the time to put some $$ on them. Now however those odds are only for complete fools ! Foolish but no, I'm not kidding !
 
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You have yet to refute my point. I'm waiting. Is 4.4 and 4.3 not track star speed?

PSU's corners and receivers are as fast, if not faster, than any team in the country. Their QB is fast and they have two lineman that have incredible speed. They have linebackers that run 4.5's. All you say is no, how can you argue with forty times? You can't run much faster than they do. I'm waiting.

Amazing how no one gives credit to them.

You just said they're not an elite team. They're the third ranked team in America! They're undefeated and they've won every game that's been scheduled. They're elite. Don't be an idiot!

Amazing how big of a moron you are as well.

The results play out on the field, Penn State is not the fastest team in the country. Teams like Florida, LSU, USC, etc... recruit talent like that year in & year out. Anyone with half a clue would know that Penn State is not faster than those teams. Most of that talent does not end up in that conference, get a clue.

Try playing teams worth a damn before calling yourself elite. So by your standards, teams like BYU, Boise State, & Tuilsa are also elite since they have won every game that has been scheduled. Your own conference's standard bearer for almost the last decade has consistently proven over the last few years that they are not as fast or talented as some of the teams I mentioned. So you think I'm stupid enough to believe Penn State is?

The moron is the one who actually thinks his team is as fast or deep as some of the more elite programs over the last decade.

Comical
 

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Complete odds are as follows
USC 9/5
Penn State 9/2
Alabama 5/1
Texas 6/1
Florida 6/1
Texas Tech 12/1
Oklahoma 12/1
Georgia 20/1
Ohio state 20/1
LSU 50/1
Illinois 5000/1 LOL
Field 25/1 Field includes both BYU and Utah
 
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Also can I ask this question.

At this point in the season who has a higher SOS; PSU or LSU? Why don't you look it up and give me an answer. I'll be waiting.

Well lets look at Sagarin for instance as a few teams with a better SOS include in the top 25 include:

Texas, USC, Alabama, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State.

Funny as all those teams would beat Penn State pretty easily.

You seem quite confident they will win the title this year. I'll enjoy knowing they won't.
 
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Complete odds are as follows
USC 9/5
Penn State 9/2
Alabama 5/1
Texas 6/1
Florida 6/1
Texas Tech 12/1
Oklahoma 12/1
Georgia 20/1
Ohio state 20/1
LSU 50/1
Illinois 5000/1 LOL
Field 25/1 Field includes both BYU and Utah

Some really good value in Oklahoma & LSU, two teams that are by no means out of it in terms of having a good chance to make it to the title game.

It shoudl be illegal for odds to be up on teams like Illinois though, that is just ridiculous.
 

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