I don't care if you bet against them or not. I am stating the obvious. With USC already having a loss in a shit conference they aren't passing Penn St. if they go undefeated. Tell me, what is the perception of the Pac 10 this year? There's a reason for that perception, they earned it. USC BLEW there chance if there is a 0 loss Penn St team and a 1 loss SEC team. There is no "oops I slipped up" in college football. You have to play every game like it's a title game because the truth is some years if you lose 1 game that is it, you are done.
I don't care if you bet against them or not. I am stating the obvious. With USC already having a loss in a shit conference they aren't passing Penn St. if they go undefeated. Tell me, what is the perception of the Pac 10 this year? There's a reason for that perception, they earned it. USC BLEW there chance if there is a 0 loss Penn St team and a 1 loss SEC team. There is no "oops I slipped up" in college football. You have to play every game like it's a title game because the truth is some years if you lose 1 game that is it, you are done.
Last two years both SEC champs had a loss didn't they? It's late, I could be wrong about that. Not saying you shouldn't beat a team like Ole Miss but it's tough to compete weekly in the SEC without picking up a loss here or there. They missed an extra point, that stuff happens. Easy to say don't let down but there is no other conference that has this combination of both physical play and speed IMO. Speed all over the field, offense and defense. Hard to run the table playing a schedule with teams the caliber of Auburn, LSU, SC, Florida, Alabama, Georgia and so on week in and week out. Even the notoriously weak teams like Vandy and Kentucky would compete well with top teams in other conferences, the Pac 10 for example.
Your point about Vols and Tigers are valid, it does take away from the conference as a whole this year, no argument there. That said we strongly disagree on Penn State/Gerogia, I don't see any way they could beat the Bulldogs. They have 1 loss and it was to what is probably going to be the #1 team in the nation, another SEC team. People don't realize the difference in competition, a 1 loss SEC team is a world apart from a 1 loss Pac 10 team playing patsies like Washington, Stanford, Washington State and so on. They play tough competition week in and week out, there are no gimme's. In fact I'm not sure Penn State could beat LSU and some of the other "not SEC elite" type of teams. Who in your opinion is the best team in the country, Penn State? What about conference, who is toughest?
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It doesn't matter either way as Penn State is not going undefeated & if they do they won't be in the title game.
Even with a ranking being lower that year, they still were in the SEC which always has a favorable perception amongst voters. The perception for the Big 10 is down this year & I think Penn State will pay for it if they do happen to go undefeated. With the joke of a schedule they have, they don't deserve the berth.
Even with a ranking being lower that year, they still were in the SEC which always has a favorable perception amongst voters. The perception for the Big 10 is down this year & I think Penn State will pay for it if they do happen to go undefeated. With the joke of a schedule they have, they don't deserve the berth.
Who did Florida lose to 2 years ago? They had a loss but I don't remember who it was against. LSU obviously had 2 last year. I am not saying you can't lose and still be good but certain teams you aren't supposed to lose to. Something to keep in mind about UGA is they have looked lackluster a lot this year IMO. They had a horrible time on offense against South Carolina and didn't look that great to me today either. I just don't think they have looked good at all.
BTW-I think the QB play is way down in the SEC this year and that is hurting some teams despite all the speed and talent they have.
The best team in the country IMO is Alabama. I am not quite sold on Texas. Plus there schedule is absolutely ridiculous. They are going to lose 1 or maybe even 2 games. There's no team in the country I would pick to go undefeated against there schedule.
Best conference is between the SEC and Big 12. The thing is last year there would be no debate. The SEC was without a doubt the best conference in the country. This year, it's not so clear. As I mentioned above the QB's leaving has really hurt the conference IMO.
I am not kidding. I would back that up anytime. No team in the country has more depth or talent. A few teams might have near the same amount but none surpass it. USC can play the finesse game or play physical like they do in the SEC. Do you really think any team in that conference would actually dominate them in a game?
They have proven to be nearly perfect against OOC teams under Pete. They stub their toe when they play down to a conference team they know they should beat. None of the losses they had was because they played their best & were not good enough, they were lackluster & played down to their foe.
It is funny that people want to throw out Oregon State as if they are a chump team. As usual people make too much of a game on the road where they came in shorthanded against PSU. PSU doesn't come close to pulling that shit off in Corvallis which is a notoriously difficult place to play in. Hell playing in Oregon has proven tough for top teams over the years regardless of conference. People always choose to overlook the fact that the team with the 2nd most wins in the Pac 10 over the last few years is Oregon State, the same team that has ended the last couple of seasons in the top 25.
USC would win the SEC & would play in their CCG if they were there. They could go to any conference in the nation & win it.
OMG STOP WITH THIS BULL! PSU wouldn't come close to pulling it off? PSU STOPPED PLAYING AND DOMINATED. THEY COULD HAVE WON BY 80. Did OSU not have their entire team out there? Is the home field really a 50 point differential?
I will bet you any amount of money in the world that an undefeated PSU team will get into the title game. You're a moron. Plain and simple. They're already going to be in the top 4, possibly 3, and if they go undefeated they'll get to 2 or 1. You are a fool. You are biased and have no clue what you're talking about. All the USC backers are tools. Let me get this straight.
Since the Big Ten was embarrassed in a big bowl game last year they shouldn't get in this year? That's the stupidest logic I've ever heard. So should LSU still get in because they were so good last year?
PSU has dominated it's competition. They haven't just beaten them, they've destroyed them. The Big 10 had more ranked teams than your beloved Pac 10 coming into today. They're a better conferene. USC blew their load again; GET OVER IT.
Stop with the "They'd beat anyone 4 out of 7 times" bullshit. What sucks is you say something like that so if PSU or an SEC team does play USC and wins you'll say I said 4 out of 7.
Sanchez is overrated, their defense is overrated and so are their receivers. PSU is a more complete team. They play great defense, special teams and offense. Who cares how good the Big Ten was last year? Who cares what OSU has done? Why does that matter for what PSU has done?
PSU has shown this season that they are one of the elite teams in college football. Get over your bullshit USC cock gargling. It's annoying and really fucking retarded.
PSU has better receivers, a better QB, a better secondary and better Special Teams than USC.
PSU can play with any team in America on a neutral field.
nobody is talking about how unfair and corrupt it is that the big10and pac10 doesnt have a conference championships.
DONT YOU GUYS REALISE WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OHIO STATE EVERY YEAR??????????
ITS BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE A FVKIN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!CAN YOU IMAGINE OHIO ST AND PENNSTATE TO PLAY TWICE???
ITS A JOKE WHY SEC AND BIG12 HAS A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP AND BIG10 AND PAC10 DOESNT HAVE TO, BUT THOSE SCHOOLS STILL HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER RECORD WHILE THOSE SIT AND FVKING WATCH!!!
WTF!!!
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DONT YOU GUYS REALISE WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OHIO STATE EVERY YEAR??????????
ITS BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE A FVKIN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!CAN YOU IMAGINE OHIO ST AND PENNSTATE TO PLAY TWICE???
ITS A JOKE WHY SEC AND BIG12 HAS A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP AND BIG10 AND PAC10 DOESNT HAVE TO, BUT THOSE SCHOOLS STILL HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER RECORD WHILE THOSE SIT AND FVKING WATCH!!!
WTF!!!
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Florida's defense is pretty damm good. It's better than their offense is anyways. But there is no way I could say that a team that has lost to Ole Miss is the best team in the nation. Maybe they will be at seasons end, but not right now.
Also I'm sick of hearing about the slow big 10. Maybe they are slower but you know what. Since '04 the slow big 10 has a 8-6 record against the SEC. So back off the Big 10 just a little. Let me ask you, is Florida in a "Major" conference because last I checked Michigan beat them about 9 months ago.
Also I'm sick of hearing about the slow big 10. Maybe they are slower but you know what. Since '04 the slow big 10 has a 8-6 record against the SEC. So back off the Big 10 just a little. Let me ask you, is Florida in a "Major" conference because last I checked Michigan beat them about 9 months ago.
so you want to just use the last 2 games OSU has lost and leave the other 10 big 10 teams out of the conversation. If you insist on calling all 11 teams in the conference slow than you have to look at the records of all 11 teams, not just Ohio State. Obviously the national championship game was bigger but no bowl game is meaningless.
Let's be serious with all this Talk. Every year it seems that We hear about how great the top Big 10 teams are. Wasn't it just two years ago that on this very site We heard the Big 10 cry because they thought the BCS Championship game should have been a repeat game between Michigan/Ohio State. Result was Florida 41 Ohio State 14 in BCS
and USC 32 Michigan 18 Last year We heard Why a 2 loss LSU ?
score in BCS LSU 38 Ohio State 24.
If Penn State gets into this years BCS title game, I predict that they will meet the same fate ! As I have stated many times already.... If Penn State reaches the title game against Florida or USC... My $$ will be betting against Penn State ! Any takers ?
and USC 32 Michigan 18 Last year We heard Why a 2 loss LSU ?
score in BCS LSU 38 Ohio State 24.
If Penn State gets into this years BCS title game, I predict that they will meet the same fate ! As I have stated many times already.... If Penn State reaches the title game against Florida or USC... My $$ will be betting against Penn State ! Any takers ?
