You are backpedaling. If you truly felt they were as good as you say, you would think they win it all. I'm backing up my belief that this team is a fraud & are nowhere near as good as you claim they are. You truly don't believe the shit you are talking as you would jump at the opportunity of free money if they made it to the game.
I never questioned Joe Pa being a great coach, I just don't think his program is elite anymore. We are in a new era of college football & they don't have the same talent & depth year in & year out like the top tier teams do. The top teams tend to reload, & your team has not done that consistently of late.
As far as comparing them to OSU, you were the one saying that they should get more credit if they beat OSU as they will have faced a healthy Wells & more seasoned Pryor. This of course is saying that those two are worth 32 points which they are not.
I'm just calling it as many truly see it. This team has not proven itself to be elite when they have played the type of schedule especially OOC that they have. It is a downright joke just like you are in backpedaling from what should be free money to you.
I just thought I might add some fuel for all the USC haters out there as I heard this morning that USC was number 1 in the Oddsmakers poll. That means that on a neutral field USC would be favored over any team in the country. They may be correct but I would be willing to take florida and take whatever points they might be giving me !
No, this just means which team is going to be need to be favorite to balance the books.
If you look at when Texas played and beat USC. Texas had a more dominant team than USC, but they were the dog because of perception more than anything else.
Name the last team to win a conference championship game by 67 points, that is what Texas beat CU, They beat OU by 33. That Texas team may have not had the overall talent, but they were a dominant team who was dog, because of the perception of SC combined with their win over OU the previous year. Same logic applies here.
youre a very sharp guy so i know you wont take anything the wrong way. but its almost impossible to buy that texas was better than usc that year. not only was usc the justifiable favorite, they nearly won the game by double digits. horns were very good that year. VERY good. but usc was better. it will be awhile before college football sees two teams THAT dominant again. so saying that usc was better is not an indictment of texas whatsoever. but that usc edition was one of the best college teams of the last 2 decades.
I will agree with you 100 % that perception is really what drives the odds.
However I'm not sure what you mean by needing USC to balance the books. The oddsmakers poll needs to balance nothing as they simply supply what they consider to be the true odds. They don't care what the AP, BCS or USA poll says. They in fact base their odds on what they believe would be the correct line.
Opinions are what make the gambling world go around. You are entitled to yours and I'm entitled to mine. Sanchez looked pretty average Saturday with 13/26 and 1 td and 3 interceptions. One must remember that USC played an Arizona State team that has now lost 4 in a row including losing to UNLV at home ! YUK !
everything you just typed is true.
.... but that doesnt have anything to do with that usc team being one of the best in recent history.
both texas and usc sent some busts into the draft despite having outstanding teams. thats college football for you.
ncaa wont see two teams that dominant for quite awhile.
the nfl success for both rosters is another thread.
similar to duke basketball and even some north carolina teams.
At least he was a starter before he got hurt, has a winning record, and took his team to the playoffs. None of the above for Leinart. VY has achieved far more. He's working on being a bust, but he's done far better than Leinart who sucks. Look at Az right now. Put Leinart in, and they woujldn't win a game
Well I look at it in quite a different way. In view of how well the 5-0 Titans are doing without Vince Young, One could easily say that the Titans won last year despite Vince Young as now they don't just look like a team that can make the playoffs but a team that has a chance to win it all ! They are far better team without Vince imho
Prodigy,
I agree USC had the better talent, but Texas won at the 4th best team in OSU that year.
My point is that if USC was not perceived as the greatest team ever, the way Texas played that year, they would have been hard pressed to be a dog against anyone.
On another note, i have hard time even putting that USC team with Miami 2001 and 2002. Nebraska 1995.
Nebraska had less talent in 1995 than USC 2005, but that Nebraksa team was awesome. Miami's talent is just stupid.
