2017 SEC Off-Season Thread

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lesser known RB, Master Teague, lit it up at Bama camp today. Ran b2b 4.31 and 4.32 40's ... that's insane

he's only 3 star as he plays against very weak competition but could earn Bama offer after this camp. Has recent offers from VT, TN, UGA, ND, and USCe. Not too many kids out there running consistent 4.3's

Teague got passed up by Asa Martin this week on the Bama wish list. Tide want to take 1 RB and while Zamir White is their #1 choice everyone still thinks he's UGA bound, so Martin could be the guy. If it ends up being Teague the Tide won't be crying....

Martin will be at the Rivals Challenge this week in Indy. Both long-time Bama 2018 commits, Williams and Quick, will also be there along with a tone of major Bama targets

 

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Rivals 5-star challenge going on this weekend.


Fields and Lawrence again dominated at QB today....


2019 Clay Webb (OL from Oxford, AL) was incredible at OL against dudes older than he is. Expect him to be the #1 target of both Alabama and the barn next year (has offers from both). Don't be shocked if he gains status as #1 overall player in 2019 class...he's that dominant


sophomore QB Harrison Bailey (2020 class ... another future 5-star QB from Georgia) opened everyone's eyes.


besides Webb the other standout OL is Delone Scaife, 2018 kid that is a Miami commmit


on the Dline Bama target but likely Clemson commit, KJ Henry, was unstoppable


all the RB including Bama target, Asa Martin, are doing very well

 

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afternoon 7-on-7's concluded the day


QB MVP = Lawrence (Clemson)
RB MVP = Gill (Ohio St)
OL MVP = Scaife (Miami)
DL MVP = Tyreke Smith (likely Ohio St)
LB MVP = Richard (likely barner)
DB MVP - D'Shawn Jamison (UT vs TCU)


2018 #1 recruting class looks like it will be between Ohio State and Clemson.....

 

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forgot one...

WR MVP = Amon-Ra St Brown (totally undecided...one brother plays at ND, the other at Stanford. Probably comes down to USCw and ND but Stan, UCLA, and Bama in the mix)

and fastest 40 was big Bama target, Isaac Taylor-Stuart, DB from California. Should come down to USCw and Bama.

my early guess for top 6 recruiting class for 2018:
1- ohio st
2- clemson
3- fla st
4- alabama
5- miami
6- georgia

bama and uga got a lot of work to do with think both will be in the mix for a top 5.

 

[DeadLast]

Teague got passed up by Asa Martin this week on the Bama wish list. Tide want to take 1 RB and while Zamir White is their #1 choice everyone still thinks he's UGA bound, so Martin could be the guy. If it ends up being Teague the Tide won't be crying....

Makes sense. Teague is a burner with unreal speed but Martin is the better all around back. Teague is supposed to announce his decision this afternoon. If he does, I'm hearing Ohio State with Ga a close second.

 

[CoachCB]

RT, Webb is a OG right?

These camps are amazing - especially compared to when I was a kid (I graduated HS in 1988).

Florida got a 2018 DL commit, Taylor Upshaw (6'5 245, 3-star. Dad was an NFLer, Courtney - I think). He's raw, but getting DL's is never a bad thing.

Still waiting to see what happens w/ Zaire, looks UF bound unless there's an admissions problem.

RB Master Teague released a video committing to Ohio State (Urban makes me sick, btw!):

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/master-teague-commits-ohio-state/

 

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Tennessee: Running backs coach Robert Gillespie has received a $35,000 raise to $510,000 in 2017, according to 247Sports.


Auburn: Former Auburn player personnel assistant Stefan Schmidt has rejoined the staff, according to 247Sports. Schmidt spent one month at Auburn earlier this spring, before joining Texas as assistant director of player personnel in April. He previously worked at Miami and Wisconsin.


Alabama: Personnel assistant JT Summerford has been promoted to assistant director of football operations. Summerford has been at Alabama since 2012.

 

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RT, Webb is a OG right?

These camps are amazing - especially compared to when I was a kid (I graduated HS in 1988).

Florida got a 2018 DL commit, Taylor Upshaw (6'5 245, 3-star. Dad was an NFLer, Courtney - I think). He's raw, but getting DL's is never a bad thing.

Still waiting to see what happens w/ Zaire, looks UF bound unless there's an admissions problem.

RB Master Teague released a video committing to Ohio State (Urban makes me sick, btw!):

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/master-teague-commits-ohio-state/

be interesting to see if Teague can make it at OSU ... their other big commit was just RB MVP at the 5-star challenge


dude can fly but huge gap b/w his current football and a major D1 program. i would have liked him at Bama as the comparison was Kenyan Drake. After his Bama camp i expect he will rise a bit in the ranking and maybe even snag a 4th star


That is one sick class Ohio State is putting together...already two 5-star, nine 4-star and well in the lead for the most college-ready OL in the nation (Jackson Carman, 5-star)




Webb is projected at either Guard or Center but more likely Center. His recruiting should be something like 98% Alabama, 2% Auburn


- good friend is one of the few Bama commits (Pierce Quick) and he has a great relationship with Bama OL coach, Key. Can't see him ending up anywhere but Bama

 

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putting Ohio State's recruiting class into perspective....Master Teague is their lowest rated recruit (by far) and one of only 2, out of 13, that has a 247 composite score below 0.907. Half of Michigan's 2017 verbals are below .907, seven of State Penn's are below that, and all but 1 of Michigan State's commits are below .097

silly especially considering Teague's score should rise quite a bit after his Bama and Ohio State camp workouts. That asshole can recruit...

 

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According to Rivals, Mark Richt has Miami at No. 1 right now. The Canes have a total of 17 recruits
including 1 5star, 13 4stars and 3 3stars. The new facilities that Miami so badly needed seems to
be paying off.

Mark's dismissal from Georgia has lit a fire under his ass!

 

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yeah he's doing a great job in Miami and only doing it with Florida kids. Other than a kicker the only verbal of those 17 that is out of state is a TE. Miami probably won't stay in top 4 once OSU, FSU, BAMA, UGA, TEX, and CLEM catch up with total # of recruits but he's certainly staking a claim to South Florida. (Rivals only does their ranking on a team's top 20 commits btw....)

He's pushing hard to get one of Bama's 3 commits, Xavier Williams, to flip and that will be an ongoing battle. Williams was part of the 5-star Rivals weekend and reaffirmed his commitment to Bama but then said Miami was a place he will visit this summer ....

Richt probably thinking he's never had it so good. Just recruit one state and sitting in the ez part of the ACC. They could be in the next 10 ACC title games as Pitt, UNC, VT can't keep up in recruiting. If I'm not mistaken every single starting QB in the coastal from 2016 is gone

 

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aTm another huge week recruiting. Picked up verbals from 2019 4-star QB Gunnell (kid is like 6'7"), RB Prince, and WR Lane (Gunnell's HS teammate) right on the heels of grabbing those two 4-stars at the beginning of the month. Gunnell threw 65 TD's last year as a sophomore




ESPN Writer Dan Murphy wrote an article predicting 2017 upsets. He's got:
Sept 2 Maryland over Texas
Oct 7 Mich St over Mich
Oct 14 Huskers over OSU
Nov 4 Indy over Wisconsin

 

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big pledge for Clemson last night from Darnell Jefferies, DT from Georgia. He was one of Bama's 3 main targets at DT and they felt very good about him after he camped there last week and discussed how Bama was "at the top" of his list. But, went back to visit Clemson last weekend and made the verbal commit last night. He is only 3-star but after the Clemson and Bama camps you can expect him to end up in the Rivals 250.

This weekend is Bama's annual OL/DL camp so maybe a little bit of back to the drawing board for DT's. Gooden, Miller, Brown, Jefferies ... Bama wants 3 of those 4 so will still work to get the Clemson kid to flip but also like in-state kids Love and Cunningham if things go sour with more of those targeted 4.

Clemson tearing through Georgia for 2018 class

they got lucky when their top defensive recruit, Xavier Thomas (247sports #2 overall rated player) escaped a car accident injury-free despite not wearing a seat belt. http://www.postandcourier.com/sport...cle_d26c2f38-4fb7-11e7-a1fc-17339a506914.html - how do people not wear a seat belt? They pulling the alarm fuse or just put up with the constant beeping? idiots

 

[CoachCB]

RT, UF signed ZERO players from the state of Georgia and from Jacksonville last year. McElwain has put a lot of emphasis on south Florida, which is fine. But it's inexcusable that they've pretty much conceded Jacksonville and Georgia.

UT landed a couple of DB's, but they're pretty lowly ranked.

Phil Steele's magazine is out. He has Bama #1, UF 9, Auburn 11, LSU 12, and UGA 22 (Tenn is 30th). That's it for the SEC.

Kentucky is pulling in a solid class. Just landed a DT out of Ohio, in fact they have 5 commits from the state of Ohio so far.

 

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RT, UF signed ZERO players from the state of Georgia and from Jacksonville last year. McElwain has put a lot of emphasis on south Florida, which is fine. But it's inexcusable that they've pretty much conceded Jacksonville and Georgia.
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didn't know that but you're 100% correct. There is so much high-end talent in GA that there is no reason a Gainesville school isn't pulling 2 of their top 10 or 15 prospects each year. Bama have done great in GA and now Clemson have dug their heels in plus UGA always a threat too. Consider that 3 of the 12 QB in last week's Rivals 5-star challenge were from that one state ... crazy amount of talent

Bama have had huge wins there but also some huge losses like Aubrey Solomon. Tough place to recruit now with clemson and michigan and state penn plus the SEC schools and florida state all over that region but you gotta have some wins there. i posted that map a few pages back and FL/GA are putting out nearly 1 D1 player for every 10 high school players. that's an insane rate

The top recruiting states for college football can be evaluated a few different ways, but percentage-wise, the top three states all sit in SEC territory.

According to NCAA Research, Florida has a higher percentage of high school players recruited by Division I programs (9.9 percent) than any other state in the U.S. Georgia is second at 8.6 percent, and Louisiana is third at 8.1 percent.


At 9.9 percent, almost one out of every 10 high school players in Florida make it to a D-I program. That’s more than twice the rate for players in California (3.5 percent) and more than three times the rate in Texas (2.7 percent).

 

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article from rivals on how the insecure, 2-digit IQ, muppet of a coach (Orgeron) is pressuring HS coaches not to allow their kids to camp if U of Texas will be there.

It’s not a good look for Ed Orgeron, honestly. For the third time this offseason, Orgeron and LSU forced the cancellation of an in-state satellite camp that the Texas Longhorns were going to attend by pressuring local high school coaches and authorities.

The latest cancellation, a camp that was to be held at Div. III Belhaven University, frankly just gives Tom Herman more fuel in recruiting than if the camp actually went off as scheduled. Now Herman, who was LSU’s first choice to replace Les Miles before Texas took him away, can point out to every big-time Louisiana prospect that LSU is afraid of the Longhorns when it comes to recruiting. Far-fetched? Perhaps, but recruiting is all about spin, momentum and notoriety and Orgeron has given Herman all three by overreacting.

In many ways all the media attention about this is a massive win for Herman. He looks like the good guy, the coach who wants to give kids in Louisiana a fair shot to earn a big offer to Texas while Orgeron plays the villain, the petty coach who doesn’t want a recruiting rival working with his in-state kids. This is the way it will be played out by the coaches in Austin and heck, other programs might just uses it against LSU as well.

Orgeron is under tremendous pressure in Baton Rouge to not only flex his known recruiting muscles but to also win the SEC West and a national title in the next two or three seasons. Herman is under similar pressure to win the Big 12 and return Texas to the top, but right now it looks like the new coach at Texas is under the skin of a big-time recruiting rival in the big, bad SEC. Not only did Herman flip LSU commitment Caden Sterns this spring, but now he’s on the good end of the public relations fallout over these cancellations.

 

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Bama gets the nation's #1 punter to flip his pledge from the big orange.... although only a punter he was the only one Bama would consider for this class so they definitely wanted him.

[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]Alabama has flipped the nation’s No. 1 punter, [FONT=proxima_nova_ltsemibold]Skyler DeLong[/FONT], from Tennessee, the Fort Mill (S.C.) Nation Ford product tells BamaOnLine. [/FONT]
[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]“I decommitted (from Tennessee) and committed to Bama,” DeLong told BOL on Thursday.[/FONT]
[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]The top-rated punter fills arguably one of the Tide's biggest needs in its 2018 class with JK Scott's eligibly set to run out after the 2017-18 season. [/FONT]
[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]DeLong committed to the Volunteers earlier this month before visiting Tuscaloosa for its specialist camp where he picked up the offer. [/FONT]
[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]The South Carolina product is the only punter offered by the Crimson Tide in the class. [/FONT]

 

[CoachCB]

Yeah, I saw the Orgeron story. Not sure what he's trying to accomplish. This is how "camps" are these days and he needs to accept it.

 

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Yeah, I saw the Orgeron story. Not sure what he's trying to accomplish. This is how "camps" are these days and he needs to accept it.

rumor is he was turned in to the NCAA by Hal Mumme for this. Mumme is coaching Belhaven (where the camp is) and lost $10k or so by having to cancel the camp. Orgeron was THE slimy, greasy recruiter in college football without a ton of pressure on him...he will have LSU on probation in no time with all this spotlight on him. I'm not saying this stunt is even a NCAA violation I'm just saying the guy has never stayed within the rules (probably because he can't read the rule book)

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Belhaven University HC Hal Mumme says he has turned LSU HC Ed Orgeron into the NCAA for Blocking Camps

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[CoachCB]

Good for Hal Mumme! These camps benefit these smaller schools more than anything. They have to pick up the scraps that the bigger schools don't want and these camps are great opportunities to see hidden/undiscovered talent.

Here's some comments on this issue:


Sports Illustrated’s Pete Thamel on Louisiana camp drama: “LSU is trying to protect the state, and the folks at Belhaven in Mississippi want to evaluate kids in Louisiana and stubbornness is preventing this from happening. I can see both sides. I’m not going to pass judgment on either one, but LSU has firmly put a stake in the ground, and it’s compelling to see the lengths to which this has gone.”



- ESPN’s Paul Finebaum: “Texas is a huge state that borders Louisiana. What Orgeron is doing is not only for a competitive advantage, but he’s also sending a message: Stay out of here, or we’re going to come after you.”


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I'm not sure if I'm happy about this:


Florida: Jim McElwain has received a 1-year extension through 2022 and a $200,000 raise to $4.48 million annually, according to the Orlando Sentinel. New bonuses include $100,000 for a single-year APR of 965 or higher.


Auburn: Georgia recruiting program coordinator Mollie Moore has been named director of recruiting at Auburn after two years at UGA. In addition, previously director of recruiting operations Brett Whiteside has moved to director of football operations, and assistant director of player development Jorrel Bostrom has been promoted to director of player development.




Alabama: Colorado State assistant director of football operations Leah Knight has rejoined the Alabama staff as director of recruiting. Knight spent two years at CSU and previously worked at USF and Alabama.