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I'm curious to see what Muschamp does. I can't stand the guy, but it looks like he's letting Roper run the offense without fucking w/ it:

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a...have-11-seniors-and-this-isnt-like-basketball


Will Muschamp: We only have 11 seniors, and this isn't like basketball

South Carolina reaching a bowl game in year one was a boost for Will Muschamp and the Gamecocks, but the real reward for that might come in year two.


There are only 11 scholarship seniors on the roster. Not many teams will have fewer. So with a roster loaded with young players, the extra bowl practices and bowl experience were even more valuable.


“You look at our team last year and going into next year, over 70 percent of our roster is freshmen and sophomores,” Muschamp said on Smashmouth Radio 99.1. “Going into next year, we’ve only got 11 seniors. We’re a young team.


Football is a developmental game. You’ve got to take snaps. It’s not like basketball where you can play one-on-one and get better. You have to go play the game. To get those snaps in December for the preparation of that game and the latter half of the roster was critical for us.”


What also helped Muschamp was putting together a top-25 recruiting class in a short amount of time after he arrived. It was the fourth-highest class among programs with a new head coach, and the 27 signees was much more than the other three. He added the No. 21 class this year.


“Normally, that’s your worst class, because you’re hiring a staff, guys changing from one school to another, and it’s hard for a student-athlete to understand you’re at one school one day and South Carolina the next,” he said. “People think you just build a relationship with them. No, it’s different when you’re selling a different school. That’s part of it. To sign Jake Bentley, Bryan Edwards, Rico Dowdle and guys that contributed to our team, played well as true freshmen (was huge).”


Muschamp said South Carolina plans to expand fall camp, following the NCAA ban on two-a-days. Some schools could add as much as a week, in order to make up for lost practices. Others will not change much.


“In order to get your practice in, you’re going to have to, because you’ve eliminated two-a-days,” he said. “Really, the last thee or four years, we only had maybe three two-a-days doing camp. You get 29 (practices) allotted, but generally we do 27 leading up to your first ballgame, six practices for your first opponent. In order to get that, we’re going to have to move it back a little bit.”


It will be a challenging start to the season. The Gamecocks open against NC State, followed by a trip to Missouri and a home game against Kentucky.
 

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Pierce dropped his commitment to Bama today for the 2018 class and my tide are now down to just 2 verbal commits. My boys on the inside tell me there is nothing to worry about but I would not be shocked if we finished outside the top 5 in recruiting in 2018. When you have only 2 returning coaches, out of 9, from the title (just 2 years ago) it is very difficult to keep the recruits coming your way especially when you backfill those coaching positions with guys from the NFL who have no recruiting pipeline and very few high school coaching connections. I don't see a #1 finish in recruiting this coming year ... UGA have a monster pipeline of "soon to be" commits and Miami, LSU, Clemson are off to monster starts with a big pipeline of potentials still to decide.

2 commits on May 18 is a low point for a Saban recruiting season. Last year was slow in spring but still had 5 or 6 commits with a bunch ready to give their thumbs-up. This is the first year in Saban's reign where we will have to flip a bunch of kids to top the recruiting list... right now I'd be happy to finish 3rd in SEC behind UGA and LSU.

UGA for 18 is in the same boat as of now. Need the Zeus commit badly.
 

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UGA for 18 is in the same boat as of now. Need the Zeus commit badly.
BAMA and UGA will be going h2h for many of the top Georgia-based kids almost all on the defensive side. Peterson, Walker, Harris at LB ... Horn, Tutt and McMichael at CB ... Jeffries on the Dline


We just recently offered TE Fitzpatrick but I think he will need to camp for the offer to be committable.


Obviously we would love to snag Lawrence, Fields or Jones at QB but none are going to end up in Bama. It would be ugly for UGA to miss out on 3 QB in their home state....(unless with Eason and Fromm they don't care?)


The push for OG Salyer will be a big one. Bama loves him but he's all Dawgs right now. Him and Carman are can't-miss offensive lineman and while Bama is in both of their "top 3 schools" I think they end up at UGA and OSU


In the end both Bama and UGA will be fine but I think UGA will end up in top 3. You guys are in the lead for so many top prospects, including Salyer and Zeus, that I will almost guarantee a top 5 spot...and likely top 3. I don't see Bama sniffing #1 in recruiting for 2018 ... top 3 will be a big stretch. Solid top 10 for sure but will not be anywhere near the '17 class. Will also depends on the service as Rivals only rates the top 20 for each program. We won't have much more than 20 total...I think maybe 21 or 22 max
 

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huge snag for the Bulldogs:

Four-star QB Jalen Mayden commits to Mississippi State

Vernon Bailey | BulldogBlitz.com

Four-star dual-threat quarterback Jalen Mayden announced his commitment to Mississippi State on Tuesday night following his spring football game. He now becomes the second-highest ranked player in the Bulldogs 2018 class, but is currently the top-ranked quarterback in Texas.
Mayden has been well-known for his eye-popping statistical totals in football games and is considered one of the more dynamic offensive players in the class. Bulldogs fans could easily draw comparisons to recently-departed quarterback Dak Prescott, and should consider Mayden a strong fit with the program's offensive identity.

In 2017, Mississippi State signed four-star quarterback Keytaon Thompson, but there isn't much on the current roster at the position beyond him, so Mayden should be given a look heading into the 2018 season. Earlier this spring, he released a Top 5 that included the Bulldogs along with Baylor, Louisville, Nebraska and Tennessee, with the Bears seeming the other favorite to compete for his commitment.

Mayden was also a standout passer at the Rivals Three Stripe Camp presented by Adidas in early April.

 

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BAMA and UGA will be going h2h for many of the top Georgia-based kids almost all on the defensive side. Peterson, Walker, Harris at LB ... Horn, Tutt and McMichael at CB ... Jeffries on the Dline


We just recently offered TE Fitzpatrick but I think he will need to camp for the offer to be committable.


Obviously we would love to snag Lawrence, Fields or Jones at QB but none are going to end up in Bama. It would be ugly for UGA to miss out on 3 QB in their home state....(unless with Eason and Fromm they don't care?)


The push for OG Salyer will be a big one. Bama loves him but he's all Dawgs right now. Him and Carman are can't-miss offensive lineman and while Bama is in both of their "top 3 schools" I think they end up at UGA and OSU


In the end both Bama and UGA will be fine but I think UGA will end up in top 3. You guys are in the lead for so many top prospects, including Salyer and Zeus, that I will almost guarantee a top 5 spot...and likely top 3. I don't see Bama sniffing #1 in recruiting for 2018 ... top 3 will be a big stretch. Solid top 10 for sure but will not be anywhere near the '17 class. Will also depends on the service as Rivals only rates the top 20 for each program. We won't have much more than 20 total...I think maybe 21 or 22 max

I wish I had your optimism regarding the '18 class. We need Zeus, which his date is June 27th I believe....then chips may start falling in place. T Lawrence is probably gone, but I think we make a late push.

The '19 class for UGA is what I am looking forward to. It is stacked in state. Damn FSU is trying to bust that up tho.
 

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Athlon's pre-season All-SEC team:

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/sec-football-2017-all-conference-team

RT, they have Hurts on the 1st team. Do you think he's there at the end of the year? I think the kid at Auburn (Stidham) may take that spot.

Athlon's goes 4 deep, so there's a 4th Team All-SEC....kinda silly.

Only 1 UF player on the 1st team.
barn kid won't be there ... it's a terrible marriage with the High School coach's offense. Don't believe the hype. same shit different year


probably will be Hurts (i mean he was SEC POY as a freshman) but i really love Canada at LSU as long as their bumbling idiot of a head coach leaves him alone to run the offense.

1-Hurts, 2-Fitz, 3-Etling

Robert Foster will be no lower than 3rd team all sec WR and Bozeman is best center in the conference.

on defense Hand will be no lower than 2nd team all SEC but i don't see Averett at top corner in conference. very silly ranking for D Hand who might be the most disruptive def lineman in the conference along with Key (if he plays)

if UF can find someone to throw him the ball Caldwell will be 1st team WR, PR, and anything else they want him to be. Dude is insane talent
 

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BERKELEY, Calif. -- Former South Carolina quarterback Brandon McIlwain is transferring to California.

Golden Bears coach Justin Wilcox said Monday that McIlwain has signed a financial aid agreement and will play football and baseball at Cal.

McIlwain played eight games with three starts as a true freshman last year for the Gamecocks. He completed 62 of 118 passes for 600 yards with two touchdowns and one interception while adding another 127 yards rushing and two scores on the ground.

McIlwain was Pennsylvania high school player of the year and one of the top quarterback recruits coming out of high school. He must sit out a year at Cal and will have three years of eligibility remaining starting in 2018.
 

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South Carolina's QB is on heroin! Or something...

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...-knew-they-were-not-that-much-better-than-us/

[h=1]South Carolina QB, on Clemson’s 56-7 win: ‘everyone knew they were not that much better than us’[/h]12 CommentsBy John TaylorMay 25, 2017, 12:21 PM EDT







On its way to its first national championship in three decades, Clemson laid waste to South Carolina, routing their in-state rivals in a 56-7 woodshedding that included a 35-0 halftime lead. The Tigers outgained the Gamecocks 622-218, while they had a 41-14 advantage in first downs as well.


The 49-point difference served as the largest margin of victory in a rivalry that was first played in 1896 and has been played more than 110 times since. Not only that, it was the largest margin of defeat for an SEC team at the hands of an ACC school.


By any measure, it was an utter and complete beatdown. Unless you’re Jake Bentley.


In that game, Bentley, a true freshman quarterback, completed 7-of-17 passes for 41 yards, zero touchdowns and an interception. That translates into a not-so-robust pass efficiency rating of 49.7.


During an interview with FOX Carolina Wednesday, however, Bentley indicated it was more of what USC didn’t do than what their rivals did that cost them the game.


“We just didn’t play well that week,” Bentley said, by way of TigerNet.com. “That’s our big quote going into this year. We felt we got outworked so never again. So our big thing is never again we will be outworked. Never again will be outcompeted in a game like that.


“It all stems from that game because at the end of the game everyone knew that they were not that much better than us or better than us at all. It really just lit a fire in everybody since that week. Everyone has worked harder and wanted it more.”


Again, 56-7 screams that the team with 56 points is significantly better than the one with 49 fewer, but your mileage may vary. Regardless, it’s safe to assume the bolded, italicized portion of that quote will find its way onto some Death Valley bulletin boards ahead of this year’s edition of the rivalry game.
 

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good stuff from Bentley. I remember after that game some USCe players whining about Clemson taunting them...well, then don't lose by 50. I'll see if I can find that story but obviously Muschamp needs to extend his freshman interview ban policy to sophomores
 

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good stuff from Bentley. I remember after that game some USCe players whining about Clemson taunting them...well, then don't lose by 50. I'll see if I can find that story but obviously Muschamp needs to extend his freshman interview ban policy to sophomores

I see this as him repeating what Muschamp has told the team. Same BS he did at Florida, "We got beat...but we're better than them." Or, "...if we had only done this or that we would have won." Muschamp has a hard time taking the blame for his fuckups.
 

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i'm a Rivals and 247 guy but this is definitely a different way of ranking recruits...by offers rec'd
here's the WR table for next year http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbplayers/?wdt_column_filter[Position]=WR

Bama in real good shape with Ross, Williams, and Moore

overall recruits listed at http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbplayers/ but a bit misleading as some kids, like Zamir White, aren't going to get 20 offers from the top 25 because only a handful of teams have a shot at him. Cool site thought...diff way to view prospects
 

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pretty rare to see an AD call out his coach in public....

A&M athletic director Scott Woodward told Paul Finebaum, “Coach knows he has to win and he has to win this year. Last year was extremely disappointing. We were as highly ranked as 4 and got up there and played very competitive games and fell off, like we’ve been doing."
 

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I'll check out that site RT, thanks for posting.

UF lands a 4-star Safety, Amari Burney, today. Big pick up. Kid is 6'1 215, likely a college LB. He chose UF over Ohio State & Va Tech.
 

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A friendly reminder guys: It is now June 1st and the 2017 college football is, suddenly, (93) days away from the seasons opening kick-off (September 2nd). This count-down should get the adrenalin flowing in the veins of any hard-core football fan a little bit faster.

The Alabama/FSU game should be a good one, almost too good for this early in the season. The Florida/Michigan game isn't your typical opening day game that were usually guaranteed wins for the host "heavy-weigh" schools years back. Yep, the old-days are over; It's right into the "hot-box" on day one
 

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Then week 2 we get Auburn-Clemson and Georgia-Notre Dame.
 

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SEC CHANGES
GRADUATE TRANSFER POLICY




http://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/sec-changes-graduate-transfer-policy/


The Florida Gators received good news on Friday when the SEC President’s voted to change the league’s policy on graduate transfers.


The league met this week in Destin to discuss many topics during its annual spring meetings, with head football coaches meeting with Commissioner Greg Sankey on Tuesday and the Presidents of the Universities meeting with him Friday.


Previously the league penalized schools that accept graduate transfers and then had those graduate students fail to meet academic requirements during their time on campus. The previous rule was a three-year ban on accepting graduate transfers, the league has decided to reduce that to just one year.

Florida violated this in 2016 when two graduate transfers, Mason Halter and Anthony Harrell, became academically ineligible for Florida’s bowl game. The rule that was in place restricted Florida from accepting a graduate transfer for three years. No other Power Five Conference had such a restriction.


“If we have rules in the Southeastern Conference that are different than the other conferences that we’re playing against and competing against … I don’t know what we’re trying to prove there,” McElwain told reporters in Destin, Florida on Tuesday.


McElwain’s mentor, Alabama head coach Nick Saban, echoed that sentiment.


“I don’t think we should penalize ourselves as a league and allow people to transfer other places, but they can’t transfer to our league. So if there’s some balance we can come up with on that, that’s what I would be for,” he said.


Florida had a strong rooting interest in the softening of the rule. The Gators have uncertainty at their quarterback position with two untested redshirt freshmen (Feleipe Franks and Kyle Trask) and returning starter Luke Del Rio, who is currently rehabbing after shoulder surgeries on both of his shoulders. Florida has long been rumored a landing spot for Notre Dame transfer Malik Zaire, who received a release from his scholarship last November and graduated from Notre Dame last semester. The change in policy on Friday now opens a door for Zaire to transfer to Florida and immediately step into a competition to start at quarterback. The left-handed passer has pushed off his commitment multiple times. Zaire told Tom VanHaaren that he would like to make a final decision “as soon as possible.


With the news Friday, Zaire has another option, possibly his best option to come in start and lead Florida back to the SEC Championship, something he told ESPN he’s looking to do, wherever he lands.
“I’m going in to win a championship,” Zaire told ESPN. “That’s the whole goal.”
 

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[h=3]What it means for Florida in 2017[/h][FONT=&quot]Regardless of any sugarcoating, Jim McElwain’s interest in Zaire means that the coach was not completely sold on Luke Del Rio, Feleipe Franks and Kyle Trask as his only options at quarterback for this season. It doesn’t mean that Franks can’t win the job this fall, or that he considers Franks or Trask a bust, but for this season, McElwain wanted another option.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It also indicates that McElwain is adapting to changes in the SEC. While Zaire can certainly throw the football (as shown by his stat line against Texas), he’s a dual-threat quarterback (No. 4 of the class of 2013) and makes plays with his legs. Prior to Zaire, McElwain had signed five pro-style quarterbacks (Jake Allen, Appleby, Del Rio, Franks and Trask) to only two dual-threat quarterbacks, Grady and Kadarius Toney, who was considered an athlete as a recruit. Perhaps watching Joshua Dobbs and Jalen Hurts up close last fall warmed McElwain to dual-threat quarterbacks.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It will be interesting to watch what the addition of Zaire means for Toney, who was expected to be the Wildcat quarterback. If Zaire wins the starting job, the Gators won’t need Toney for a change of pace. If Zaire is the backup, one wonders if he might be asked to run Wildcat packages. Either way, the coaches will almost certainly find a way to get the ball in Toney’s hands this fall.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Allen, a post-spring practice enrollee, is unlikely to be affected by Zaire. With Del Rio, Franks and Trask all available this fall, Allen was already projected to redshirt.[/FONT]
 

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