Best answer i got is cultural. Unless you have some science that say blacks are 3/5 of a human or they are missing some cognitive brain development etc etc i dont know your point here? I think blacks would be better if the nfl or the nba didnt exist. Than maybe that culture would understand the pot of gold isnt sports or entertainment but its Ben Carson. Its Thomas Sowell. Its the Accountant. The Doctor down the road. The Fireman etc etc. That is part of the problem. Too much scarcity at the end of the rainbow for blacks. Overwhelmingly most wont "succeed" by their own cultural admission.
Best answer i got is cultural. Unless you have some science that say blacks are 3/5 of a human or they are missing some cognitive brain development etc etc i dont know your point here? I think blacks would be better if the nfl or the nba didnt exist. Than maybe that culture would understand the pot of gold isnt sports or entertainment but its Ben Carson. Its Thomas Sowell. Its the Accountant. The Doctor down the road. The Fireman etc etc. That is part of the problem. Too much scarcity at the end of the rainbow for blacks. Overwhelmingly most wont "succeed" by their own cultural admission.
I have said before that education is the key to change someone's economic status.
The main subject of the conversation is the black community and I agree it starts in their own community.
What has not been mentioned is the increase in the single parents across the white and hispanic too. Probably accounts for us falling behind the rest of the world...although I dont know the statistics on other countries single parent percentages.....my guess it is lower than US.
I for one dont think any kid in the US should go hungry...they did not do anything wrong. If you are going to change the laws.....the law that should become stronger is that if you father a kid....if you are not going to be part of raising the kid....I guess that will be your choice......what wont be your choice is to think the rest of society is going to foot the bill. Take the money to support the kid first. What is left you can spend any way you want.
The main subject of the conversation is the black community and I agree it starts in their own community.
What has not been mentioned is the increase in the single parents across the white and hispanic too. Probably accounts for us falling behind the rest of the world...although I dont know the statistics on other countries single parent percentages.....my guess it is lower than US.
I for one dont think any kid in the US should go hungry...they did not do anything wrong. If you are going to change the laws.....the law that should become stronger is that if you father a kid....if you are not going to be part of raising the kid....I guess that will be your choice......what wont be your choice is to think the rest of society is going to foot the bill. Take the money to support the kid first. What is left you can spend any way you want.
"he group said consideration of ACT and SAT scores in applications upholds "white supremacy" because it restricts opportunities for the poor."
This is so ridiculous that it's hard to believe that this isn't a joke. What about Asians? Do they not exist? How come no one mentions them? They score even higher on standardized tests than whites.
This is so ridiculous that it's hard to believe that this isn't a joke. What about Asians? Do they not exist? How come no one mentions them? They score even higher on standardized tests than whites.
I want to know what you, when you were the You that was 19 or 20 years old....
would be, were you here in this time, with what these Young People (like you once were) have on their plates.
2017. Donald Trump. Mexican Immigrants? "Black Lives Matter" Black People bringing to your attention
how White People 's life experience here in USA from birth to death is so much less "hostile" than for a Black Person
Easy for you to recall that 19/20 Year Old YOU then imagine that you being a Sophmore Badger at U Wisky right now
You're probably drinking a bunch of Whiskey, yeah 'kno.
Total Honesty Here:
"Who are You" as that 19/20 yr. old You in this setting?
What ROLE are you in on this Stage? And Life in General, Philosophically re:
The Issues. The Fact that you fully KNOW YOU CAN CHANGE THE WORLD AT 19/20
and even you feel a sense like its your OBLIGATION to ReMake that World.
My Sense right now is that if anyone answers this question, honestly, the answers will be "interesting".
Both here and to some who seriously contemplate this question which: Definite Benefit in doing so
cuz ya gotta admit its a total trip how Definitively and Dramatically our Philosophies Change from 19/20
to wherever the f we are now. Here, I'll make this easy for you guys:
1.) I'm MILITANT. I've grown up with Mexican Friends, GAY FRIENDS, Asian Friends, Black Friends, most of the music I love is made by Black People and here at UW kids of all races are standing together. Our White Father's Bullshit is OVER this is Our World Now and we are going to fix it. I want Revolution and I will settle for nothing less.
I am fully ready to fight, physically if need be cuz I feel combating this Racism, this FASCISM is like a "life's Calling", a moment that comes for some Generations where they have to stand up, like my Great Grandfather did against Hitler. I am among The Leaders of this Movement here at UW and I plan to Lead more here and Beyond here. If War must be, here, in USA: Fucking Bring It.
Viva La Revoluccion
2.) I'm down with what the Protestors are fighting for. I feel like a Worker in the Revolution. Some people are really Hardcore about it and talk about Revolution that we the young today have an obligation to ourselves and our country, our kids and PEOPLE of all colors to fight against discrimination and I believe them, I believe what they say. I'm not any Leader myself but I will paint signs. I'm pretty good at painting signs cuz I do Art. I don't believe in Racism, I mean I think fighting Racism is Important.
3.) I attend the protests to meet chicks, to be good with everybody: Liberals, Anti-Liberals whatever, man cuz I'm very open-minded, I don't get Hung Up on shit I juts wanna enjhoy my college years. If I am with the crowd protesting, asking for whatever I support that but I can hang with the Partiers as well and be good with them. I think this is the best way to be: Cool With All. I don't get in no Heavy Discussions about Political Shit I basically agree with everybody, think everybody has a Right to Feel what they do.
4.*) I'm an Athlete, on Teams here at UW so I can't get involved in any of this stuff. If I do I will just lose. Cuz that Opposite Side of anything I were to say would put me on Blast on facebook and twitter. People ask me to get involved, take a side but I can't and won't.
(*Choose this number 4 if you don't know how you'd be cuz you're unsure which side is right.)
5.) No Habla Eengless. Estúpido pinche americanos preguntan demasiadas preguntas Estoy tan cansado de responder preguntas pinche aquí, como si no la gente sabe pinche nada sólo deje de hablar sólo deje pinche hablando por el amor de Jesús cerrar el pellizco
666.) I just wanna Party, man. And hang with Hot Chicks which: theres a few here.
All this stuff, this Political Stuff its not for me. All I care about is where the next party is at. I wish everyone would just Get A Bong. And then Share that with me.
7.) I'm against what The Liberals are about, what they are asking for but I'm not Hardcore about how I feel, I won't be on The Quad holding a sign and yelling at them but at my heart I feel Against what Liberals are themselves yelling about. I guess you could call me "Conservative" if you have to Label Me but I'm Quiet about it but I don't really give a shit about Political Stuff, at my heart. I wish everyone would just get along.
8.) I'm Down with the Anti-Liberal cause and I work for that. I'm not a Leader more a Worker but I agree with whats being said thats AGAINST Liberal Philosophy and I am willing to put in time, Work to advance an agenda that is opposite of Liberal Stuff.
9.) I'm VEHEMENTLYagainst this Liberal Bullshit. I've totally had enough of this crap. I'm on the Other Side Fighting. Don't even get me Started. I am ANTI-SNOWFLAKE these people are asking for stuff that will destroy America and leave me and my future kids living in Danger. I seriously believe these Idiots are Brain-Damaged. They are just Spoiled Momma's Boys, FemeNazis and Sheeple following those. These people disgust me, they embarrasm UW and America cuz they are so stupid and just such Blind Sheep crying all the time asking for Free Stuff. I understand "Free Speech" but this is total Bulshit. I'm prepared to fight these Pussies if it comes to that. And if they Fuck with Me, my Girfriend or really even if they Keep Coming like they are, up in people's faces here who don't want anything to do with their crap, its gonna come to that. I'm about to Snap on these Idiots.
would be, were you here in this time, with what these Young People (like you once were) have on their plates.
2017. Donald Trump. Mexican Immigrants? "Black Lives Matter" Black People bringing to your attention
how White People 's life experience here in USA from birth to death is so much less "hostile" than for a Black Person
Easy for you to recall that 19/20 Year Old YOU then imagine that you being a Sophmore Badger at U Wisky right now
You're probably drinking a bunch of Whiskey, yeah 'kno.
Total Honesty Here:
"Who are You" as that 19/20 yr. old You in this setting?
What ROLE are you in on this Stage? And Life in General, Philosophically re:
The Issues. The Fact that you fully KNOW YOU CAN CHANGE THE WORLD AT 19/20
and even you feel a sense like its your OBLIGATION to ReMake that World.
My Sense right now is that if anyone answers this question, honestly, the answers will be "interesting".
Both here and to some who seriously contemplate this question which: Definite Benefit in doing so
cuz ya gotta admit its a total trip how Definitively and Dramatically our Philosophies Change from 19/20
to wherever the f we are now. Here, I'll make this easy for you guys:
1.) I'm MILITANT. I've grown up with Mexican Friends, GAY FRIENDS, Asian Friends, Black Friends, most of the music I love is made by Black People and here at UW kids of all races are standing together. Our White Father's Bullshit is OVER this is Our World Now and we are going to fix it. I want Revolution and I will settle for nothing less.
I am fully ready to fight, physically if need be cuz I feel combating this Racism, this FASCISM is like a "life's Calling", a moment that comes for some Generations where they have to stand up, like my Great Grandfather did against Hitler. I am among The Leaders of this Movement here at UW and I plan to Lead more here and Beyond here. If War must be, here, in USA: Fucking Bring It.
2.) I'm down with what the Protestors are fighting for. I feel like a Worker in the Revolution. Some people are really Hardcore about it and talk about Revolution that we the young today have an obligation to ourselves and our country, our kids and PEOPLE of all colors to fight against discrimination and I believe them, I believe what they say. I'm not any Leader myself but I will paint signs. I'm pretty good at painting signs cuz I do Art. I don't believe in Racism, I mean I think fighting Racism is Important.
3.) I attend the protests to meet chicks, to be good with everybody: Liberals, Anti-Liberals whatever, man cuz I'm very open-minded, I don't get Hung Up on shit I juts wanna enjhoy my college years. If I am with the crowd protesting, asking for whatever I support that but I can hang with the Partiers as well and be good with them. I think this is the best way to be: Cool With All. I don't get in no Heavy Discussions about Political Shit I basically agree with everybody, think everybody has a Right to Feel what they do.
4.*) I'm an Athlete, on Teams here at UW so I can't get involved in any of this stuff. If I do I will just lose. Cuz that Opposite Side of anything I were to say would put me on Blast on facebook and twitter. People ask me to get involved, take a side but I can't and won't.
(*Choose this number 4 if you don't know how you'd be cuz you're unsure which side is right.)
5.) No Habla Eengless. Estúpido pinche americanos preguntan demasiadas preguntas Estoy tan cansado de responder preguntas pinche aquí, como si no la gente sabe pinche nada sólo deje de hablar sólo deje pinche hablando por el amor de Jesús cerrar el pellizco
666.) I just wanna Party, man. And hang with Hot Chicks which: theres a few here.
All this stuff, this Political Stuff its not for me. All I care about is where the next party is at. I wish everyone would just Get A Bong. And then Share that with me.
7.) I'm against what The Liberals are about, what they are asking for but I'm not Hardcore about how I feel, I won't be on The Quad holding a sign and yelling at them but at my heart I feel Against what Liberals are themselves yelling about. I guess you could call me "Conservative" if you have to Label Me but I'm Quiet about it but I don't really give a shit about Political Stuff, at my heart. I wish everyone would just get along.
8.) I'm Down with the Anti-Liberal cause and I work for that. I'm not a Leader more a Worker but I agree with whats being said thats AGAINST Liberal Philosophy and I am willing to put in time, Work to advance an agenda that is opposite of Liberal Stuff.
9.) I'm VEHEMENTLYagainst this Liberal Bullshit. I've totally had enough of this crap. I'm on the Other Side Fighting. Don't even get me Started. I am ANTI-SNOWFLAKE these people are asking for stuff that will destroy America and leave me and my future kids living in Danger. I seriously believe these Idiots are Brain-Damaged. They are just Spoiled Momma's Boys, FemeNazis and Sheeple following those. These people disgust me, they embarrasm UW and America cuz they are so stupid and just such Blind Sheep crying all the time asking for Free Stuff. I understand "Free Speech" but this is total Bulshit. I'm prepared to fight these Pussies if it comes to that. And if they Fuck with Me, my Girfriend or really even if they Keep Coming like they are, up in people's faces here who don't want anything to do with their crap, its gonna come to that. I'm about to Snap on these Idiots.
#1 Radical Liberal to.....
#9 Radical Conservative
....or somewhere in between?
YOU.
That 19/20 Year Old that you were just...
You're HIM but HER, in 2017 and you're a Sophmore at UWisky.
Who Are You?
1 or.......9 or....
somewhere in between?
This will be good for you, to do this. Take this Seriously.
Life is a Journey.
Where you been?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfuCLp8VEng
#9 Radical Conservative
....or somewhere in between?
YOU.
That 19/20 Year Old that you were just...
You're HIM but HER, in 2017 and you're a Sophmore at UWisky.
Who Are You?
1 or.......9 or....
somewhere in between?
This will be good for you, to do this. Take this Seriously.
Life is a Journey.
Where you been?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfuCLp8VEng
Interesting Article from a Black Father:
By bobby <time class="entry-date" datetime="2016-08-09T14:00:54+00:00" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="">9 August 2016</time>
Black Fathers Matter…….The Black Lives Matter movement Can’t X Us Out!!!
No matter how much they seem to want to do that.
Even though Black Lives Matter has been around since 2013, it wasn’t until last week that I decided to go to their website and what I found was alarming.
As I was reading their vision of 12 Guiding Principles, I noticed that not one time was there any mention of Black fathers.
You could see that it was very specific and crafted to make sure that Black fathers/men were not mentioned. That’s puzzling because the movement started based on unarmed Black men being killed mostly by White police officers. So is it safe to assume that the organization is just riding on the backs of Black men’s martyrdom to push an agenda that has nothing to do with me at all? Hmmm……………….
As I combed through the site, I found what the real agenda is the goal of “disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.”
The irony is that this has already happened to a great degree in the black community. Today, only 34 percent of black children — down from 67 percent in 1960 — are raised in homes with married fathers and mothers. Moreover, nearly 50 percent of black children live in single mother homes.
Contrast that with only 20 percent did in 1960.
In other words Black Fathers Matter From Black Lives Matter’s viewpoint, we are making great progress. Using this logic, we should actively work to increase the number of black kids living in single mother homes, absent their fathers, right?
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Hey supertroll, get lost. Seriously, no one wants you in this thread. We're having a civil discussion here, go somewhere else and lie about something or brag about a poll in which over half of posters want to see you banned
Hey supertroll, get lost. Seriously, no one wants you in this thread. We're having a civil discussion here, go somewhere else and lie about something or brag about a poll in which over half of posters want to see you banned
Ok
Well to be clear, I was making the bolded statement in reference to the discussion in this thread about scholastic performance, economic performance, crime incidence, etc. I think it's obvious there are things which we aren't discussing in this thread which are almost exclusively nature (such as what species you are, what sex you are) or almost exclusively nurture (hair length, language spoken).
What I am saying is pertaining to the variables we are discussing in this thread, nature plays a greater role than nurture. Just like no matter what you feed or how you train your average white male far less of them will be able to dunk a basketball compared to black males, and no matter how you motivate or what teachers/schools you give a black male far less of them will ever be doctors or rocket scientists compared to white males.
So the study you cited about traits and disease is irrelevant. It says nothing about the variables we are discussing and there is no way you can just assume or extrapolate what is the case for traits and diseases would be the case for these variables we are discussing.
A lot of people in this thread seem to be clinging to idea it's all about education. I'm just saying I think it's no more about education than dunking a basketball is about training. Sure you can add a couple inches to your vertical leap but the majority of it is genetics. Black populations all over the world in a wide variety of environments all suffer from poverty, crime, corruption, etc. and I think that is a strong indicator of how little nurture has to do with the variables we are discussing.
Thats because nobody will call out the blatant racist centaur. The guy is a total clown and pisses his pants when he sees black people on tv. I mean, we had a mod here hoping centaur would self ban himself. Guy should go back to one of his other names.
Civil racism?? I've seen it all here.
A Wise Man Once Said:
"F#@% It, We're All Dead"
oh wait. Wrong Quote.
"Put 'Terd on ignore...he will be deprived of the attention he so desperately wants and lose crucial paid troll income...eventually vanishing like a fart in the wind"
All Your Fault. When Vit successfully ShitBums Threads, FireBombs those with his "Please Argue with me soze I gots some thing to do." Those of you who engage with This Troll.
All Your Fault.
"F#@% It, We're All Dead"
oh wait. Wrong Quote.
"Put 'Terd on ignore...he will be deprived of the attention he so desperately wants and lose crucial paid troll income...eventually vanishing like a fart in the wind"
All Your Fault. When Vit successfully ShitBums Threads, FireBombs those with his "Please Argue with me soze I gots some thing to do." Those of you who engage with This Troll.
All Your Fault.
Fantastic Post. Yuge Challenge to Dialog on Nature/Nuture and other factors, any conversation that broaches upon differences in Race is that. "Race".
We have never been allowed to Dialog on anything to do with Race. This not true of Black People, somehow. Blacks can express whatever they desire about White People, today they are even applauded and encouraged to Disrespect White People, they can do so as much and as viciously as they desire.
Conversely: Whites cannot say anything that might be even remotely close to 'not entirely positive' about Blacks.
We've never been even allowed to HAVE the Dialog thats taking place here. Re: Biological, Physiological, Genetic Factors. Nature and Nurture.
Point Being: had we not been Forbidden to even just EXPLORE possibilities into why differing Races manifest Behaviors and Aptitude Levels in varying things...had we been allowed to have these conversations we'd be farther down the road on this topic.
Society, the PC Groove of Facade of "not being Racist" whatever the cost to a Society, to accomplish that appearance of Not Being Racist:
This has cost us. This has contributed to us being Stuck. There is no College Professor in the world, UWisconsin of anywhere who should Forbid a Dialog of what factors may play a role in how differing Races of people behave, and No College Student or any other person who should put The Kabbutz on such Discussion.
In Related News: I feel like Brain Scientists basically don't know much about The Human Brain, how that works.
I think its like how so much of the Ocean Floor is yet undiscovered, totally Unknown. Too Vast, Too Deep.
Brain Scientist are running a Scam here. They have been for Decades. They pop out occasionally with an article in The Journal of Medicine
that is just Fancy Medial Words but contains Zero Added Knowledge about the Human Brain. Brain Scientists are just sitting around in their Labs handicapping games and Betting All Sports.
Revelation comes some day that Brain Scientists were The Biggest Degenerate Gamblers on Earth. And that they knew absolutely No Thing about how Human Brains work.
Wizards of OZ, fuggin' Brain Scientists. Look behind The Curtain: they're Moving Betting Lines. They're Whales. Degenz.
What a Scam.
What are you up to 5 cents a post Turd?
2000 Posts within a Calendar Month and he gets to almost the $0.05 per post level ($0.047 per post, at 2000 + posts w/in Calendar Month).
Bourn Exterminating him Temporarily cost him this month, maybe reduced his February Paycheck by as much as $2.42 and The 'Turd hates February overall.
Feb. is by far The 'Turds least favorite Month.
Its why I try to encourage guys to not Reply at all to The 'Turd cuz Immense Comedy would result from him trying to get to that 2000 Post Level
with Zero Guys Replying and helping him do that.
It'd be funny as Heck. The 'Turd would Meltdown
Right Before Our Eyes.
Ax NOT for whom Thee Bell Tolls Shiterd.
It Tolls for Thee.
