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I wouldn't go anywhere near or attend a school that had a policy like this. boycott it and watch it burn to the ground..
 

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MLDog I agree that in many cases here in the US, those of mixed race (Bob Marley, Malcolm X, Kaepernick, etc.) are embraced by the more pure blacks, but I believe this is only because they are closer to their own identity and useful to them.

I can't figure out what you mean by this, that Bolded Red part. Damn Impressive that you know that Bob Marley's mom was white, vast majority don't know that, even moreso: X. Hardly Anyone knows MalX was of Mixed Blood.

There is a pretty long record in Africa (where blacks are not the minority) of violent and deadly repercussions of being even slightly different than the majority. The Tutsi genocide in Rwanda and the cannibalism/slaughter of African pygmies are a couple of examples.

Absolutely. YUGE Fly In The Ointment re: Repatriation. These ARE their countries though. And I feel Deeply that "things" would be immensely better due to "Synchronicity", folks being where their Spirits were comprised to be, Long Run: U.S. Blacks Repatriating could equal LongTerm Improvement of those Countries?

I mean to say: "Big Picture shit."

100 Years from Repatriation or....whatever.


Would at the least be a Fascinating Conversation with Intelligentsia, Scientists, Learned Fucks:

"Long Term Outcome of Repatriation?"

Short Term Outcome, as you imply, probably Not Good. Clash. Rampant Fighting. War. Cuz, to my knowledge anyway, Africa's Blacks hate US Blacks with a PASSION, are not very Welcoming/Nice to them when US Blacks Visit. Plop onto the Top of that:

"Yo. We're Back to Reclaim Our Homelands"


Yeah That could go decidedly Poorly. Or Remarkably "Well". Depending Upon The Outcome that one desired.

I guess thats the "conversation" that most interests me. I fully Grasp that Mass Repatriation is a wholly "pie In The Sky" waste of Breath but that Conversation, Intellectual Exploration of what would be the Long Range Outcomes, I'm talking 5, 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 Years from then OUTCOMES...

Based on, at it's Base, the proposition that:

1.) Blacks are Genetically Programmed, DNA Designed (and that also "Physiologically", like: Black Bodys "Designed") to Most Prosper in Africa, as opposed to Elsewhere.

2.) "The Design" of this World was for Nations to Come & Go. Rise and Fall. In Propping Up Failed Nations due to a "All Life is Sacred so Everyone Must Be Saved, from Death for as long as Possible"
Philosophy that did not much exist on Earth until Americans brought it

Did We comPLETELY Fuck This Planet Up via this Philosophy? By Interfering with a Natural Order of "Nature", did we Derail what was actually "meant" (as in: what Nature would have had Unfold, how it was supposed to go) and that ALONE is 90% of the reason that we now have such immense Suffering and War, such rampant Brutality on this planet?

Whereas had we just allowed Nature to do her business, and not Interfered with that, let Nations, Peoples Fall rather than jamming a Ventilator in 'em

Would We have arrived at a place here thats not as CrazyFucked as Earth is now?

Did We, thinking We were administering "Life Support" in actual Fact administer "DEATH Support"?!?! Like, In The Sense that Messing with Mother Nature as We certainly have via keeping nations/mentally fucked peoples to stay alive, remain here among everyone else.....

Blocking Nature's "Kill Shots"

Are We (Americans) the Architects of much of the Brutality that Earth has now?
 

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If I were Emperor of This Planet I'd Pass a Law that ALL MUSIC must before being released to the Public pass thru my Studios at my Ministry of Music (Department of Music) to undergo Screwing before it could be Legally Released.

Screwed = Slowed WAY the heck Down. Plus "Levels" dropped, Vocals/Drums Key made Lower, More Grave.

I'd allow an Exception for Goth Music. Thats already pretty much "like that", by its Nature.

And I would Ban Jazz. In Fact I would Confiscate All Brass (or other Metals) Instruments that require, to be played, the blowing of Air into them.

Bcuz these instruments SCREECH. :( Like Wounded Cats. :( :(


Except for Oboes (if constructed of Brass, or Other Metals)

Post-Confiscation I'd order the melting down of all such musical instruments, the metals recycled made into Street Signs, Swing Sets and Bicycles.

A Song gets "Screwed" that song's quality improves Dramatically. On My $100 Bill would be a picture of the head of DJ Screw. Houston.

 

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Oh I'm sure not all of them would be rapists and thieves. But why would u think fbi statistics and the results of multiple studies wouldn't apply here, especially when they r talking about bringing in former inmates? It's ur type of small minded short sighted illogical sanctimonious thinking that people are getting really sick of.

So NOW you mention inmates? Interesting. So who is lobbying for this? If you guys would tell the whole story instead of being halfassed and bias then we would not have to go down this road. I know some of you are not used to being questioned or disagreed with but here we are. small minded/short sighted/illogical/sanctimonious don't describe me at all. I just question the fools that show exactly those qualities.
 

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Maybe hugeunderdog can take them in Costa Rica? Blacks are less than 3% of the population there, so they are in dire need of diversity.

Hey man. I'm not on one side or the other. Its amazing though how the slave master is always looking to get rid of the slave when all the work is done and he has established himself.
If all blacks want to go back to Africa so be it. America for the Americans? does that mean it goes back to the indians? Do white Americans go back to Europe? Not realistic. Who has power and status does everything to consolidate and preserve it. It is what it is. The best we can do is live together, people need to be educated and have a conscience.
 

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They gotta Return to their Lands. Violation of a Basic and Vital DesignPart of this place was unleashed by the Horror of Slavery. What we got on Earth as result is DisHarmony, Naturally we have that same as we'd have were a Marching Band to run onto a Football Field during a Final Game deciding play.

A Path does exist to getting that Marching Band back where they were supposed to be so those who were supposed to be on the football field can be there without running full bore head on into a Tuba Player.

Imagine tho if that Marching Band winds up out of their designed place but absolutely ZERO Conversation were Allowed re: the possibility of getting them back to a place they were designed to be, as a Solution to Eliminating the Chaos resulting from them being in a place they were not Designed to be...Imagine existing in a time and place where it was Forbidden to even Propose the very obvious solution of simply getting that Band back where they were supposed to be.

I mean DNA stuff here. Blacks were designed to be in a certain part of the world. Warmer Climate and other factors too numerous to go into here. Physiologically, Biologically etc. Blacks were Designed not to dwell within a Melting Pot such as USA has become, Blacks are supposed to have their own Homeland. And they did. At one time.

Blacks are not Designed for "this." Thats why we see what we do and why Life has gone so desperately Wrong, for so many. Both Blacks and Whites, here in USA. Bcuz "The Design" got messed up, when Slavery Came.

The Say: "(Wo)Men of all Races are supposed to live together, as ONE" was just stuff added unto these things (The Bible) by Greedy Men who figured More People = More Money (Donations to Church) but mostly a scheme to have Cheap Labor.

Not Much has changed. My Own Say of "Back To Africa" is totally without Racial Hatred. I mean Repatriation of Blacks cuz in the long run were they to return and exist where they were Designed by Nature to be most Happy, that would happen. They would be Happy.


Or at least: Less Miserable than they are now. Just as there is Zero Chance of any rational debate of a Back to Africa Solution being allowed, taking place there is also ZERO CHANCE that I don't get shouted down as a "Simple Minded Racist KKK Fascist etc"

but that is 100% not the case.

I am simply speaking Truth: Black People, if returned to the parts of this planet they were Biologically Designed to be most Happy in would eventually be most happy as possible for them to be. The Solution is that. What "We" and "They" will choose to do however will not be to solve the problems, they will instead choose to remain is USA and continue fighting, killing each other and Protesting. Claiming that they want "Freedom".

The very thing that Marcus Garvey's Solution would provide them.

Freedom. Where they were Physiologically Manufactured to be Happy.
Not sure I agree with a "we were designed to be here or there" idea. Europeans have spread out and colonized vast parts of the world and established themselves very well.
 

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You Do Realize that Costa Rica does not have an Army. Right? No Military Army, CR.

Or, at least they did not the last time I checked, have an Army in CR.

Among my very earliest memories as a kid, cuz My Mom got me a subscription to National Geographic's WORLD Magazine

so that used to show up in the mailbox once every month, like: on the 3rd day of the month (I recall vividly cuz I'd look so forward to that magazine, every month they'd explain different parts of the World) among my Earliest Memories was learning that Costa Rica had No Army.

That made me think that Costa Rica was like Heaven. On Earth. So Young when one forms such a deep deep Impression, "Belief", that never really changes (often anyways) so even to this day I have within me this way way Romanticized Vision of Costa Rica as Paradise.

I've talked for so long, to Customer Service Reps of the Online Books....about CR. Guys would trip if they knew how long I kept these poor people on the phone sometimes. :):)
Right, no army. Way back one of the to be presidents used the army in a coup and took power. Soon after he himself dissolved the army, I guess he didn't want anybody else doing it to him. Thats what the locals tell me. Also, I heard black Jamaicans came here to work on their railways (slavery?). Some settled and eventually the province of Limon was born, thats where most blacks live or come from. It might be worth mentioning that its the most deprived of all the provinces. And the entry point for most of their shipping and tourism. I think that says something..
 

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By the way, who the hell is Jesse Williams? why does his name keep coming up?
 

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MLDog I agree that in many cases here in the US, those of mixed race (Bob Marley, Malcolm X, Kaepernick, etc.) are embraced by the more pure blacks, but I believe this is only because they are closer to their own identity and useful to them. There is a pretty long record in Africa (where blacks are not the minority) of violent and deadly repercussions of being even slightly different than the majority. The Tutsi genocide in Rwanda and the cannibalism/slaughter of African pygmies are a couple of examples.

I have to agree.
 

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I don't think all white people are crazy junkies who go postal and shoot up schools. should all black people
be rapists and thieves? Man you seems to be a very small minded individual.. Unreal..

Allow me to interject. I think there is some real psychological problems at work in our society. If someone does go postal it indeed always tenda to be a white male. If their is a serial killer more than not it's a white male. But those are such rare occurrences on the grand scale. Blacks on the other hand, specifically young black males roughly 2-5% of the population are creating roughly 50% of violent crime/murders. That's where people get hung up. A black person that gets triggered will say we whites kill 84% of all white homicides and that is true. BUT, HOWEVER it's nowhere near the scale of black vs black crinlme, adjusted for population. Whites make up 70% of the population. If whites were committing the same amount of crime per capita this country would look like Libya. Total war zone. And that is something a lot if black people don't want to hear from a white person. Not that I don't get why but nonetheless it is a fact.
 

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By the way, who the hell is Jesse Williams? why does his name keep coming up?

Jesse Williams was (may still be) an Actor on one of those Medical (Doctor/Hospital) Drama Shows that I'd never ever watch cuz they just recycle the same Plot Devices as every other Medical Drama Show in History. Hollywood, 90% of it was never that Creative anyways, just producing stuff for Lowest Common Denominator of Adults and Cartoons for Kids instead of Art burn Hollywood Burn.

Jesse got an award at The Black Entertainment Television (BET) Awards and tried to pretend he was Malcom X Reborn with an inaccurate Skin Tone Makeup Job. Not Dark Enough. :(

I'd be Interested in your Thoughts on Jesse "Message":

Cuz you may be kinda "Liberal":

(On Topic, to this thread: Jesse Williams cuz this here speech be Of That Same Poisoned Vine as whining Free Stuff Army UofWisky doofuses, Same Poisoned Mind, that OP posted reference to, to begin this thread)

 

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Allow me to interject. I think there is some real psychological problems at work in our society. If someone does go postal it indeed always tenda to be a white male. If their is a serial killer more than not it's a white male. But those are such rare occurrences on the grand scale. Blacks on the other hand, specifically young black males roughly 2-5% of the population are creating roughly 50% of violent crime/murders. That's where people get hung up. A black person that gets triggered will say we whites kill 84% of all white homicides and that is true. BUT, HOWEVER it's nowhere near the scale of black vs black crinlme, adjusted for population. Whites make up 70% of the population. If whites were committing the same amount of crime per capita this country would look like Libya. Total war zone. And that is something a lot if black people don't want to hear from a white person. Not that I don't get why but nonetheless it is a fact.

This all sounds pretty accurate. I'm sure there is a cause for all this and I think it has less to do with people simply being black. I use this analogy a lot, some may say its a big IF but. How would these numbers look if Black America were the haves and White America the have nots? I think we would say most violent crimes were committed by whites. I responded to this thread because I believed some people's responses were arrogant and inconsiderate. My point is, given the socioeconomic status of the grand majority of blacks (poor), why is a bunch of kids trying to help them get into a certain schools such a bad thing? They will/should be screened. You're not going to open the gates to any criminal and gang banger. That would be stupid. Believe me, the government can set it up so the same people end up paying for these scholarships in the long run. I believe that nothing is really free anyway. Why should a few genuinely good black poor folk get the door slammed in their face because other blacks are shooting people up?
 

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Allow me to interject. I think there is some real psychological problems at work in our society. If someone does go postal it indeed always tenda to be a white male. If their is a serial killer more than not it's a white male. But those are such rare occurrences on the grand scale. Blacks on the other hand, specifically young black males roughly 2-5% of the population are creating roughly 50% of violent crime/murders. That's where people get hung up. A black person that gets triggered will say we whites kill 84% of all white homicides and that is true. BUT, HOWEVER it's nowhere near the scale of black vs black crinlme, adjusted for population. Whites make up 70% of the population. If whites were committing the same amount of crime per capita this country would look like Libya. Total war zone. And that is something a lot if black people don't want to hear from a white person. Not that I don't get why but nonetheless it is a fact.

WE, meaning "White Americans" as in those of us who taking it all the way back to when the fist Black Slave Foot touched this land and then bringing that all the way FORWARD to include a people that HAVE been Guilty of treating Black People "differently" whether that be UnderPaying them, other things that Jesse Williams highlighted better than I can

We HAVE been guilty of creating a "Lost Generation" comprised of a % of those Young Black Males you post about up there...

...being Fucked Up.

All I am about, and Saying is: 'Yes. Lets (Black & White) have the necessary Dialog to Evolve & Correct. I am willing to bear what responsibility belongs to White People even tho my own Welsh/Irish & Cherokee People were nearer to, in Experience, what Blacks have suffered here than my own people are near to the Oppressors...

I am willing to nonetheless bear that White Responsibility to just move the Godamned Process of Healing Fucking Forward.

I will not bear SHIT though 'til Black People do the same: Take Responsibility for the Brutalization that they have themselves been responsible for.

Of Other Black People and that Brutalization of Innocent White People who had Zero to do with any fucking Slave Ships, Toby/Koonta Kintay being beaten or causing Black People to have arrived at a Place where such a large number of them are today: Soul-less Savages."


Blacks yet to be willing to have that Conversation though. That Dialog wherein Blacks Share Responsibility for where we are at.

Its just my White Devil Ass thats too Blame. All Me.


When Blacks are Ready to Stop Attention Whoring, BLM Protesting Long Term Goal: Reparation Check for $122,000 each

we can have a Mature Exchange and try and solve this shit

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how about this?

it's 2017, we're all equal, we all have the same opportunity, make the best of it

because if you were still in Africa, you'd know what oppression and despair and fear and hunger really looks like

I'm tired of all the idiocy

You can't really believe this, can you?

I mean, sure, anyone can excel in high school and go score a 36 on their ACT and get a full ride to any school, regardless of race. So from that perspective, everyone technically has the same opportunity.

But do you think it is likely (or even feasible) that Jerome, who was born into a single-parent poor household and the a society with very few positive role models, and lives in the ghetto with a horrible public school system, will accomplish this goal?

Isn't it far more feasible that Jeremy, who was born into a two-parent upper middle class household and went to a public school that offered college prep courses, can achieve this?

One is set up for failure and one is set up for success. It's not necessarily a racial issue of opportunity, but rather a socio-economic issue at its core. This socio-economic disparity is undoubtedly (at least in part) due to the historical disparity in this country. If nothing changes, how are things going to change? It would take 1000 years.

I'm not saying that there should be any handouts. Policies like the one in this article are not the answer and I abhor them. I also hate the hand-out, I'm owed something sense of entitlement.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't know what the solution is, but it's a far more complex issue than "well legally blacks and whites can do the same things, so that equates to them having the same opportunities."
 

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You can't really believe this, can you?

I mean, sure, anyone can excel in high school and go score a 36 on their ACT and get a full ride to any school, regardless of race. So from that perspective, everyone technically has the same opportunity.

But do you think it is likely (or even feasible) that Jerome, who was born into a single-parent poor household and the a society with very few positive role models, and lives in the ghetto with a horrible public school system, will accomplish this goal?

Isn't it far more feasible that Jeremy, who was born into a two-parent upper middle class household and went to a public school that offered college prep courses, can achieve this?

One is set up for failure and one is set up for success. It's not necessarily a racial issue of opportunity, but rather a socio-economic issue at its core. This socio-economic disparity is undoubtedly (at least in part) due to the historical disparity in this country. If nothing changes, how are things going to change? It would take 1000 years.

I'm not saying that there should be any handouts. Policies like the one in this article are not the answer and I abhor them. I also hate the hand-out, I'm owed something sense of entitlement.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't know what the solution is, but it's a far more complex issue than "well legally blacks and whites can do the same things, so that equates to them having the same opportunities."

Well Said...
 

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You can't really believe this, can you?

I mean, sure, anyone can excel in high school and go score a 36 on their ACT and get a full ride to any school, regardless of race. So from that perspective, everyone technically has the same opportunity.

But do you think it is likely (or even feasible) that Jerome, who was born into a single-parent poor household and the a society with very few positive role models, and lives in the ghetto with a horrible public school system, will accomplish this goal?

Isn't it far more feasible that Jeremy, who was born into a two-parent upper middle class household and went to a public school that offered college prep courses, can achieve this?

One is set up for failure and one is set up for success. It's not necessarily a racial issue of opportunity, but rather a socio-economic issue at its core. This socio-economic disparity is undoubtedly (at least in part) due to the historical disparity in this country. If nothing changes, how are things going to change? It would take 1000 years.

I'm not saying that there should be any handouts. Policies like the one in this article are not the answer and I abhor them. I also hate the hand-out, I'm owed something sense of entitlement.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't know what the solution is, but it's a far more complex issue than "well legally blacks and whites can do the same things, so that equates to them having the same opportunities."
Boom.

You ain't just playing Devil's Advocate there, you're mentioning stuff that would be present within that Dialog that might lead to Progress, Evolution, a Reduction of Brutality here in this country.

White People must step to that Dialog Table 100% Ready and even enthusiastic about Taking Responsibility for what was done.

Black People need to come with a readiness to have their own Responsibility discussed.

First on The Docket, as you say and Thank You for saying it:

"Why The FUCK can't ya'll men stay and be Fathers to little black babies that you make?"

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Ain't no one leaving the ROOM till we get that situation corrected.


Yeah. We might (very well) die of Old Age in that Room.


So much Misery starts there though, when Father is nowhere to be found :(

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Until we can get to a place where we have more of this ^^^

and whats Below. Ain't Nothing Positive Gonna Get Accomplished.


Zero Progress. Til This.

Like No Sleep til Brooklyn. Same Exact Thing.

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#StillWaiting​
 

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I think a part of the problem is that so many black men are raised without fathers and this is a chain reaction. The boys never really learn first hand how to be men. And mommy is always "my baby this and my baby boy that". They never want to leave their mothers. Don't know how far back this was started but this dynamic can definitely be a starting point for brothers who want to break the chain and help fix the problem. Its not an overnight project.
Its like damm if you do damm if you don't. If mommy says "stay home, don't worry, I will take care of us" the boys are always boys. If mommy needs help an the young men see the struggles their mom goes through, they go get a gun.
 

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You can't really believe this, can you?

I mean, sure, anyone can excel in high school and go score a 36 on their ACT and get a full ride to any school, regardless of race. So from that perspective, everyone technically has the same opportunity.

But do you think it is likely (or even feasible) that Jerome, who was born into a single-parent poor household and the a society with very few positive role models, and lives in the ghetto with a horrible public school system, will accomplish this goal?

Isn't it far more feasible that Jeremy, who was born into a two-parent upper middle class household and went to a public school that offered college prep courses, can achieve this?

One is set up for failure and one is set up for success. It's not necessarily a racial issue of opportunity, but rather a socio-economic issue at its core. This socio-economic disparity is undoubtedly (at least in part) due to the historical disparity in this country. If nothing changes, how are things going to change? It would take 1000 years.

I'm not saying that there should be any handouts. Policies like the one in this article are not the answer and I abhor them. I also hate the hand-out, I'm owed something sense of entitlement.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't know what the solution is, but it's a far more complex issue than "well legally blacks and whites can do the same things, so that equates to them having the same opportunities."

I was born into an upper middle class white household in the suburbs. My parents raised me right. Our public school system was not the best, but my parents had enough money to send me to a private school. I was taking ACT/SAT prep courses my sophomore year and Calc 1 junior year.

Do I feel bad about any of this? Fuck no, my parents worked hard for it, and I hope to repay them by taking care of them in their twilight years.

But do I feel lucky to have been born white, and into the situation I was? Fuck yes. Same opportunities as anyone else but I was provided the means and environment to achieve them.
 

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You can't really believe this, can you?

I mean, sure, anyone can excel in high school and go score a 36 on their ACT and get a full ride to any school, regardless of race. So from that perspective, everyone technically has the same opportunity.

But do you think it is likely (or even feasible) that Jerome, who was born into a single-parent poor household and the a society with very few positive role models, and lives in the ghetto with a horrible public school system, will accomplish this goal?

Isn't it far more feasible that Jeremy, who was born into a two-parent upper middle class household and went to a public school that offered college prep courses, can achieve this?

One is set up for failure and one is set up for success. It's not necessarily a racial issue of opportunity, but rather a socio-economic issue at its core. This socio-economic disparity is undoubtedly (at least in part) due to the historical disparity in this country. If nothing changes, how are things going to change? It would take 1000 years.

I'm not saying that there should be any handouts. Policies like the one in this article are not the answer and I abhor them. I also hate the hand-out, I'm owed something sense of entitlement.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't know what the solution is, but it's a far more complex issue than "well legally blacks and whites can do the same things, so that equates to them having the same opportunities."

actually, I do believe it, and it happens far too often to actually pretend otherwise

My mom grew up in war torn Italy, my father left an orphanage and joined the Navy at age 17. Neither had a high school diploma, my mom couldn't even speak English.

I grew up poor, even lived in the projects. But they worked and saved and worked and saved and moved into a lower middle class neighborhood. They never stopped working and saving, and they made sure I went to college. They set the table for me, and I've taken it to the next level. My kids will be better off still.

That story has been repeated 10's of millions of times throughout this country, including our former black president and other Senators and Congressmen and Judges

No single demographic has had a bigger disadvantage to overcome than the Vietnamese. Broken families, no education, war survivors, can't speak the language, racism and hatred. They came here and worked to become the highest income earning demographic in the country.

So yes, I absolutely believe it. I lived it, I watched others live it, and like with everything else in my life, I draw on my first hand experience with people and their lives to form my opinions.
 

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