We are trying to organize a buy group

[pensfan1919]

Just checked the Dr.'s results. I said earlier that these guys didn't know baseball at all and it looks like I was right. The using of too many run line plays, betting too much chalk, and the parlays.

Can you believe these guys put out TWO 12* Parlays today? For that matter, both parlays had Detroit. It is so incredibly stupid to do 2 big play parlays ON THE SAME CARD but it is even dumber to have them both SHARE A TEAM. What if that team loses(answer is you are screwed)?

According to my calculations, the group is EASILY down 100 units for June and probably closer to 150. What a hole to climb out of!!

I feel for the members of the group, especially the naive ones who thought this was guaranteed money(ActionBrett referred to them a few days ago).

Things may get worse as these guys start to chase. Baseball is a dangerous sport for those that don't excel at it because of the higher moneyline juice.

I just hope this is a lesson for somebody. Never go with an unproven service(they are unproven in baseball, that is fact) with a high cost.

The cost of joining the group was $250. You can get Teddy Covers baseball for a month for $300. Teddy is slumping right now(last few days despite a big winner today) but is a long term proven and documented winner. He killed in April and May and I am willing to bet he posts a winning June as well.

Also, for double the cost of ONE MONTH($500) of this group you could have gotten Kelso Sturgeon's Early bird Football package FOR THE WHOLE SEASON. All the 50's, 100's, and 200's. included.

Money management is key but not just in wagering.

Best of luck to you guys and hope these guys bounce back for you.

 

[ketut]

Chuba, I was not talking about you being anything less than honorable. It is just my humble opinion and experience is these types of nondocumented handicappers that you are "The Pied Piper leading these young inexperienced players to slaughter."

You may have the best of intentions, but where is the history that the Drs. perform. There is none that I am aware of.

That in itself should keep you away. The $5K is so rediculous it is not even funny!!!

Good luck to all who follow!!

Please keep the forum informed on how you all do.

We may want to get a group together next month to buy the Grand Canyon!!!!!

I'll buy the grand canyon....will you take a check.......lol

 

[inthegame07]

i'm calling it right now, we are out of this hole by the end of the week.

Now what? :think2:

 

[aznracer]

Man, I feel bad for all of you guys that's been following the DRS. I was one of those that followed dr. vip during the basketball season and strange thing is when I do followed vip picks, I lose about 75% of the time. I'm not bullshit either. But of course, their records indicated otherwise.

I've been following Chris James at ChrisJamesSports.com. The guy is 9-2-1 last 12 MLB and 40-18-1 in his last 59 MLB. He normally released a 2* plays but hit his 4* play last night. He's is not expensive at all so maybe he can help you get out of this mess with the drs. We all have waste or thrown away $250 in our lifetime so let go of the drs before you lose everything. I was stupid enough to buy Chris Lang 90 days service for $500 and thought that was the worse decision I've ever made. I quuit using his picks after the first week. Good luck to all. Hope you get your money back somehow.

 

[TheRocker]

Anyone who buys touts plays are suckers. You should search for sick gamblers' guide to gambling, it's on here somewhere from a few years ago.

 

[cheme82]

Time to start fading them? That's what I have been doing with Rose and Prez, they have been burning money lately. ucking:

 

[RDC-3]

but like i said earlier we made .85 units the 1st night

 

[pensfan1919]

How did the Doctors do on Saturday? Or today for that matter?

They have not updated the results since Friday.

 

[SayHeyKid]

You guys got taken, and bet your bottom dollar the guy who "organized" the buy was in on it. Obviously these guys are scammers and frauds.


How did you guys pay for the package?

 

[fraser411]

Whoever the person that actually "paid" for this scam should at least demand refund and give everyone back a fair share of the $5K. This is getting worse by the day.

The group's organizer should be held accountable. You lead these guys down this path. The Drs. have been worse than terrible. If they have any idea what decency is, they will refund the charges.

I for one do not believe anyone paid $5K for this. Why don't you post the proof for the flock to see how they get ripped.

I was making fun of the group.

Now I feel sorry for all the young guys that were taken to the cleaners.

This may not be fraud, but it is at least false advertising.

I bet you got no guarantee either when you so eagerly paid $5000.00.

Whoever claims they paid for this should be ashamed of themselves!!!!!hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:hno:

 

[Actionbrett]

12* Results from June 1st-June7th

Guru: 4-3 +.10 Units
Daddy: 3-3 -.20 Units
West: 3-3 -.40 Units
Bond: 2-5 -3.21 Units

12* are 12-14 -3.71 Units

Three of those games they lost on blow saves in the 9th, i believe. Rockies/Astros midweek and LAD/Philly Saturday night and another game that I cant remember right now.

I cant comment on their other plays but i know they have been bad especially the VIP plays which may have gone win less.

 

[fraser411]

No one asked for any records or any comments. We can check their records at the nurses website.

I am calling you out!! Did you pay $5K to your buddies? I think not. Show the forum your proof of purchase and refund your group's money. It is obvious that they are getting destroyed.

The numbers you posted are not the numbers being posted at the website. The VIP plays count as well.

Next you will post that they win when left handed pitchers pitch on the road on Wednesdays, or night games played in domes when it is raining outside. You are obviously trying to save face.

I wanted to join the group to expose these clowns. I did not have to join to get them exposed.

If you are not going to do the right thing, at least post the plays so the forum can fade these losers.

Just admit you scammed the group. Give the individuals in the group their money back and ask them to forgive you and your scamming friends.

$5000 my ass!!!!

 

[pensfan1919]

Just took a look at ActionBrett's 12* tracking for June. 12-14 +3.71 units for 12*'s so for now, I will just focus on 12*.

The last posted record day on their site is dated 6/6 but is actually for Friday 6/5. They went 0-6 and 0-5 on 12*. This results in approx. -65 units for the 12*.

I know another day in June they went 1-7. Pretty sure they had at least 5 12* and they may have had 6. I'll be conservative and say they went 1-4 on 12* that day since I know the winner was on LA over Arizona. Since they layed a bunch of chalk that day, I will use -120 as the average chalk(again conservative). This puts them on 12* for that day at approximately -45 units.

Based on my records, which are conservative and may be worse in reality, in 2 of the 7 June days so far, on 12* plays they went 1-9 for approx. -110 units. Let us continue!

They went 3-2-1 another day splitting their 12*'s going 2-2. Think they had a run line winner but a chalk loser so I will again be conservative and call this 2-2 0 units.

This makes the tally over 3 of the 7 days approximately 3-11 -110 units. ActionBrett claims 12-14 for approx. +4 units.

This means in the 4 missing days they had to go 9-3 on 12* for +114 units.

With that being 75% and big money, I am sure we would have heard from many members of the group bragging about such successful days. Didn't hear a word except one poster said "We won .85 units one day, YAY!"

Keep in mind all of this doesn't count the rest of the unrated plays and the VIP Plays, the majority of which were losers.

Don't know ActionBrett or any other members of the group. I have no problem with any of them.

However, there is no way that the record posted above is correct(unless I missed something).


In short, unless they made up over 100 units on Saturday and Sunday there is no way the posted records are correct.

Fraser may be on to something here!!

 

[DBogey]

Tired of all the whiny crap going on in this thread. Do not think you have any right to call anyone out especially when you could not come up with $250 to join initially.

Since June 1 when group started. Flat betting all 12* plays at $100 including VIP and juice.

Guru-- 3-3-1 -$94
Bond-- 3-6 -126
Big Daddy-- 4-3 +72
Coglye -- 3-4 -140
VIP -- 0-7 -776

Yeah that sucks but other that VIP all the cappers can still finish positive. Its only June 8th.

I dont understand why anyone not in the group is so upset that a bunch of guys got together split the package to see if the Drs were any good?

The only thing I can think of is your scared the group will succeed and you will be left out. I'm a big boy and I can decide how I want to spend my money!!

 

[fraser411]

D Bogey, and your 7 posts,

I am a member of more groups right now than you probably have been in in your entire gambling career, so shut the fuck up about not coming up with the $250. I have guys in 4 different groups begging me to get them help splitting their Drs. subscription fee.

Just check out Small Units posts. He is not different than the you players that blindly signed up for this group. The did not know that $5K was stealing.

I you know anything about the tout business, you would know that you can pretty much get any handicapper alive for $500 per month, not $5K.

This is an open forum. I can call out whoever I want whenever I want.

The young guys that signed up may not think they can put the pressure on the goup organizers for a refund.

I could care less about this group other than it was stealing from inexperienced players.

That makes me sick.

Now Actionbrett is posting inflated records to justify the scam.

Anyone that paid $5K for a month's service should have known that they overpaid. The issue is that the group organizer is now sugarcoating the records.

The whole Drs. group was a disaster waiting to happen. It only took a few days to expose the fraud.

Good luck to all.

I tried to help. I hope you all get what you deserve.

Please post these plays so we can fade them.

 

[DBogey]

Fraiser and your 211 posts in 2 and half years--

Why so hostile. Be happy you are in all those groups and so popular that groups are begging you to join

One question-- you say you hope we get what we deserve. Do you hope that we lose? I thought this site was a out helping people beat the book not hoping you get what you deserve.

Good luck. I hope you win every game you bet.

As far as posting the plays so you can fade. Why not just join one of your groups? I am sure you can afford it!

 

[fraser411]

D Bogey,

What I meant by getting what you deserve is that you unknowingly paid 10 or 20 times the going rate for picks. I you knew you were being fleeced then you are just plain stupid. I would hope that you just did not know better.

I am not hostile. I think it is hilararious that guys can put on scrubs and get people to throw $5000.00 at the and then pay more than that to their bookmakers playing the worthless picks.

Go back in this thread. You will see I posted more than once that these clowns are not documented, had no history, and were way overpriced.

Good luck to you and all who follow. You have been warned.

I feel for the young ones like Small Units. You can see his frustration when he tells Chuba to stay out of this thread.

All I asked is that you all be honest with each other. I wanted to join the group. I was told not to.

It was not about the $250. It was that I wanted to expose the fraud, and the organizer did not want me to do that. If Dr. Guru and his cohorts we legitimate, I would have been welcomed and next month's group would have been so big, you all would have been paying much less than the $240 that somebody pocketed this month.

We all that have been around the tout world any length of time, knew that the Drs. could not live up to the $5K price tag. We had no idea they would collapse right out of the gate, though.

Hope they turn it around if you follow. :toast::toast:

 

[smallunits]

now these are the records that I have from june 1st-7th
guru- 12* 3-3
10* 1-1
daddy-12* 3-3
10* 1-0
cogyle 12* 3-3
10*0-1
8* 2-0
bond 12* 2-5
10* 1-0
8* 1-1
6* 0-1
vip plays have gone winless at 0-7

I stopped playing them 2 days ago, other than guru and big daddy, which I will continue to do until I see all of them turn it around. But to you fraser, I dont regret getting into this group, because I wouldve never known if i didnt, or at least I thought I wouldnt. But we are only 1 week through the 4, so there is more than plenty of time to turn a profit on these guys.
But a couple of days ago I sent guru a nasty email, in which i called him a scammer,and a few other choice words, I got grief from some guys in the group, and will admit that wasnt the right way to go about it. But he did email me back, and did his "did you watch the games? we should have won" speech, and continued to tell me that guru was still 8-2 in his last 10, which is completely absured. I emailed him back "nicely" this time, and wrote down guru's last 10 plays, which he was 5-5. And as you can probably figure they never emailed me back...lol. So ya I have lost respect for these guys, but I got my .2 cents known to them. But as I said I dont need anyone feeling sorry for me, as I wanted to do this, and you live and learn, so its all good. Good luck to everyone in the group and hopefully they can turn it around.....oh and we did see the $5000 paypal reciept, he showed it to us after your accusations.

 

[wilson881]

I'm not going to blame the organizers for this, I only have myself to blame. Someone mentioned 500 plays at 65-70% is not possible. That should have clicked but i was just too f'in greedy and still decided to go in on this. I figured if they advertise 65-70% and charge $5k they would at least net a profit. That $250 is really nothing compared to the amount i lost. Thank god I stopped betting their picks on Friday. The unfortunate part of all this is that by wiping out my account I had nothing left to bet on RAS picks. All I know is going forward I will not put another cent on those plays even if they go on a 10-0 run. Its not a coincidence that the week we start they go on a shit run betting on favs. That 65-70% is definitely bogus.

 

[fraser411]

Best of luck to all of you all.

I really have no business caring about anyone foolish enough to send $5000 to anyone for a month's worth of picks.

The group I am in is not in that league. We pay $400 a month, and our handicapper is only 40-20 for the year. No way to make any money winning only 66% of one's plays. LOL

Hope you all recoup all of your $5K and all that you have lost so far.

Whoever sold you that bill of goods is a hell of a salesman.