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.....So the group you bought from bets all favorites, yet doesn't account for the juice when they lose? :):):):):):)


My advice - anyone who bought this package do the following.


A. call your creditcard company and issue a chargeback if you paid through creditcard

or

B. Call paypal and tell them you were deceived and they will issue a chargeback.


If what rza said is true you are fully authorized to chargeback the amount purchased, as they engaged in false advertising.
 

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wait a minute!! having an email relationship (cmon, in a non-gay way) is not exactly friends. buying picks for myself and the forum on a routine basis and giving back and forth comments is not exactly going out for an IPA.

damonjensen, who f**k are you to say i am friends with these guys. do you know me? the person i get the picks from, after i paypal them is their internet tech guy. i have had a business relationship and a chalk email talk with them, post game results. i am not distancing myself from them either. everytime i bought their plays and if it lost i was treated right...a return play. Calling me a scammer? let me ask this again....do i know you? i have never scammed anyone on this forum or anywhere on the internet for that matter....EVER.

i am 39, have a wife, two beautiful girls, a mortgage, and a successful business (ok 2) and that puts me at jeopardy to scam anyone. this alone makes me double think which cappers to follow and use as a capping tool. one of them is the dr(s) and it has been succesful in the past and hopefully in the future. some of you guys still dont get it, only as a group did we pay $5000...each of us is $240 into this. everyone who is in is a big boy or girl and can make their own decisions wether they wanted in or not. yes i think $5000 is a lot for anyone to pay but it, imo, is not if broken down evenly. i won most of the time when i bought them and i was given a return game and sometimes two when they lost. i dont really care to have a good reputation but i am not one to try to do anything that would give me a bad one.

people lose, all touts lose, all cappers lose. i regret getting this group together b/c of the hype that a high priced capper/tout causes when dealing with those that cannot or need to be taught how to manage their money. i regret not asking for background on everyone in the group to determine if they had the non-compulsion it takes to win in sports-betting. I regret ever making any hype when i won on their plays. i regret trying to help out. sometimes i regret sharing. it was not my intention to make it seem like you got "hosed".

if those of you who are going to act like your thong is two sizes too small b/c you had a losing night, my only advive is to stop. RZA, your fault not anybody elses. i did not tell you to join. i did not make you join. i only said if you want in then it's this amount. apparently, gambling is not you thing and compulsion might be. sorry for the jab but it is what it is. Say Hey Kid, dont know you, dont think we have done any business together. if you dont like touts/cappers or people who sell their picks in any form or fashion why do you "clown" around in the service thread?


i respect the people who make this forum possible and thank them for doing so.

chuba

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when did i put the blame on anyone regarding joining this group on anyone?? i've pointed out that their record is bullshit and that's all i've done. and go fuck yourself with your - "i have a house and kids and i'm successful" - blah blah blah - who gives a shit?
 

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when did i put the blame on anyone regarding joining this group on anyone?? i've pointed out that their record is bullshit and that's all i've done. and go fuck yourself with your - "i have a house and kids and i'm successful" - blah blah blah - who gives a shit?

only point that was to make was that i have too much to lose...you are right, self righteous statement.
if you know any good internet porn i may just fuck myself

looks like from the email i just got you are already trying to fuck me...
 
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only point that was to make was that i have too much to lose...you are right, self righteous statement.
if you know any good internet porn i may just fuck myself

come one man. you've demonstrated the ability to pat yourself on the back and i know you've given yourself a handshake at some point...fucking yourself should be a breeze. in all seriousness - best of luck to you. i'm not looking to get into a pissing match - waste of time.
 

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How did u guys do on Wed. Hope you came back a bit. That's bullshit if these guys get hammered.
 

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How did u guys do on Wed. Hope you came back a bit. That's bullshit if these guys get hammered.

3-1 on the 12*, one no play, lost their vip and an 8*
they had the dodgers runline on their loss

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Chuba, the Doctors never updated the site were there no plays today. Never saw them not have plays.
 

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whats the 12 * record so far that all you should be playing right.
 

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got an email with today's plays saying they had server issues
 

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stay out of here chuba...this thread is done, fuck most these people...excuse my language
 

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stay out of here chuba...this thread is done, fuck most these people...excuse my language

Thanks for the update Small U I do hope these (i don't know what to call them) make a profit for u guys. I just hate when all of a sudden people get someone on a daily basis and then they go to shit. Especially when they are totally over priced. I hope none of u guys are pounding them until they prove somethig. Keep us updated.
 

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were getting killed>>>but of course we made .85 units the 1st night.:dancefool
 

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ouch...an 0-4 12* a play day for the nurses. down some 50+ units.
 

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I don't want to rub salt into the wound. I know the package was only 250 each but I bet most of this group (i am not a member) have lost a hell of a lot more than 250 on the bets these guys have thrown out. I tried as hard as i could to convince everyone in the IC group that this was likely a scam and that their records are bullshit. We have now seen about 40 12* plays posted in the last month and they are under 50%. All services/cappers go on losing streaks but no way is their 70% posted record on 500 12* plays legit. 50% over 40 plays is no big deal, but when you claim 70% and charge 5K it is absolutely unacceptable. Not to mention there have been few if any dogs. That 50% is likely much worse with added juice from -120 and -130 plays.
STOP PLAYING THEIR PLAYS NOW BEFORE YOU GET INTO A BIGGER HOLE. DO NOT CHASE. It only cost you 250 to get in. Monitor them for the month. If they go 65%+ the rest of the package then you may feel comfortable getting a 2nd month and then playing. If they are anywhere near as good as they claim then they can't hit 50% for long on 12* plays. See if they bounce back and if they are legit you will make a killing. Just don't risk anything else until you verify for yourself. I am sorry to say but they are probably liars and scammers and don't throw good money after bad and best of luck to all that got screwed.
 

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I inquired about the group because these guys were decent with hockey and hoops totals;. When I heard the cost(and realized it would be all baseball soon), I declined the offer.

It is clear these guys don't know anything about baseball(or baseball wagering). Picking mostly chalk and run lines is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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