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You are right Chuba. You are well respected at this forum. I just am amazed that you would agree to pay $5K for a month of anything. That is so off the charts overpriced. You know what the touts get. We are in the same groups.

I was calling Brett out, not you. I believe you if you tell me you did this, but WOW.

Why do you not demand a full refund as Arizona Bound suggested? I will let it go. I have nothing invested. I just have people in groups that I am in asking me to help them.

If the Drs are legitimate, they will refund at least 3/4 of the money because you have not used the service. I know they will not refund you any money.

Good luck and try to stay out of the group origanization business. It is not worth the headaches.

I am done with the Drs. Hope you all are as well.
 

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No you dont know me but i have been reading through this today and there is one constant, you being a pain in the ass. Your friends made a decision that they thought was a good one. It is only week one. If they are mad at it they can choose not get in any future dr. groups and cut there losses. we took a chance and so far a bad one. 3 weeks to go we will just have to wait and see if this pans out. It could keep being a disaster and you will look like you know what you are talking about. It could turn around and you will look back and wish your werent rude to the group organizers so they would have let you in

I just passed on a deal to buy the picks from a less than satisfied group member. I had 7 offers this afternoon for guys willing to take just about anything for their picks.

Good luck to you all!! I hope the Drs turn it around for the ones left still following them.

I really could care less about the Drs. No service is worth that kind of money. You can bet on that one!!!!:):)
 

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You are right Chuba. You are well respected at this forum. I just am amazed that you would agree to pay $5K for a month of anything. That is so off the charts overpriced. You know what the touts get. We are in the same groups.

I was calling Brett out, not you. I believe you if you tell me you did this, but WOW.

Why do you not demand a full refund as Arizona Bound suggested? I will let it go. I have nothing invested. I just have people in groups that I am in asking me to help them.

If the Drs are legitimate, they will refund at least 3/4 of the money because you have not used the service. I know they will not refund you any money.

Good luck and try to stay out of the group origanization business. It is not worth the headaches.

I am done with the Drs. Hope you all are as well.

there are not any hard feelings on my part as i hope there wont be on yours. in a lot of ways, i do not know why i dont ask for a refund. it's not about any type of respect bro, its just that i did not intend to lead anyone astray/over their head/into something i didnt think they would be able to get out of. I and brett (improper grammar, i know, but just written this way as to put more emphasis on how i felt) thought this would be profitable for us as a group buy not in the process...besides why so many requests for them if their isnt interest or success using them. I HAVE had success in the past (which is mostly taken away from last week) and that is also why i thought this would be a good investment for me.
yes, you guys are right thus far no problems there but we are only a week in. actionbrett is stand-up as far as this group goes and i just dont believe he TRIED to organize for a hope of kickbacks or anything less than a good intention.
hey i was paying almost 350 for their daily card (with help and with discount) so $5000 was a bargain to me...again my bad, my ignorance but what i had to go by was i was successful with them in the past and the roi was what i am concerned about.
in the end, end of the month b/c any group i get into will be a non-chuba organized get-up unless they start kicking ass, you may be right about the drs peformance. valuable lesson learned for me. i know the service thread was meant for sharing and helping and you are just trying to help those that need it if you cant post picks but a lot of energy was turned negative and there is still winning to be had. i mean heck RAS was 6-0 this weekend, my wife says she is ready to have another child, and foots is right around the corner.

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I just passed on a deal to buy the picks from a less than satisfied group member. I had 7 offers this afternoon for guys willing to take just about anything for their picks.

Good luck to you all!! I hope the Drs turn it around for the ones left still following them.

I really could care less about the Drs. No service is worth that kind of money. You can bet on that one!!!!:):)
If you really "could care less about the Drs plays" why did you PM me saying that "I really want the Drs plays"? I have had previous dealings with Chuba and D Bogey and they are straight up guys as far as I can tell. What is your agenda?
 

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Listen Brett,

You are the one that got screwed out of the money. I saw the posts about someone being friends with the owners of the website. The whole Drs group thing smells to high heaven.

I have guys in groups that I am in that have been hurt by this. I wanted to post for everyone to see exactly how bad or good these guys really are.

I had 7 offers tonight.

I passed. It is not worth the time or effort to say anymore.

It is unbelievable that $5K was handed over with no guarantee. If you all did that then that is what you did.

Good luck. Hope the next 3 weeks are better than the first.

And I sure hope that the 12 on Oakland hits tonight!!!! My tout had that one as well.

I am certain that you will learn from this experience. Just because something costs alot does not mean it is worth a lot.
 

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Listen Brett,

You are the one that got screwed out of the money. I saw the posts about someone being friends with the owners of the website. The whole Drs group thing smells to high heaven.

I have guys in groups that I am in that have been hurt by this. I wanted to post for everyone to see exactly how bad or good these guys really are.

I had 7 offers tonight.

I passed. It is not worth the time or effort to say anymore.

It is unbelievable that $5K was handed over with no guarantee. If you all did that then that is what you did.

Good luck. Hope the next 3 weeks are better than the first.

And I sure hope that the 12 on Oakland hits tonight!!!! My tout had that one as well.

I am certain that you will learn from this experience. Just because something costs alot does not mean it is worth a lot.

You had 7 offers and you didn't take them? Why did you offer this then?

I will pay half of anyone's subscription for the plays if I can get them an hour before gametime.

Anyone of you want $120?

You should go to bed and quit while you are way behind. Why did you even make this offer if you were not going to make good? IMO, this is just as bad as a tout not making good on their promise.<!-- / message -->
 

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Listen Brett,

You are the one that got screwed out of the money. I saw the posts about someone being friends with the owners of the website. The whole Drs group thing smells to high heaven.

I have guys in groups that I am in that have been hurt by this. I wanted to post for everyone to see exactly how bad or good these guys really are.

I had 7 offers tonight.

I passed. It is not worth the time or effort to say anymore.

It is unbelievable that $5K was handed over with no guarantee. If you all did that then that is what you did.

Good luck. Hope the next 3 weeks are better than the first.

And I sure hope that the 12 on Oakland hits tonight!!!! My tout had that one as well.

I am certain that you will learn from this experience. Just because something costs alot does not mean it is worth a lot.

5K is an awful lot to pay for a tout. I wouldn't do it in a million years. But then again, they would and that's what makes the world go around.
 

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Anyone who handed over money for anyone's plays deserve what they get. Stupid stupid stupid. Lesson learned.
 

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deserves what they get???? Hey Rocker....fuck you!!! I hope you get what you deserve. Why would you say that? And would you be saying that if we were winning? My answer is no..you would be saying, "oh please give me the doctors"...all of you would, everyone should thank this group for putting in so much money to get the unknown, dr. plays....yet everyone wants to tell us how dumb we are.None of us do really know yet if they are legitament because we have only had them for 1 week, but everyone thinks they are liars and cheats (I shouldnt talk) but I will ... How can you judge them off of 1 week? tell me. Ok, so yes they are waaaaaaay over priced, yet I still think they will come out ahead. So if, and when they start winning, all of us in the group should just keep quiet and laugh within ourselves about the assholes like this here mr rocker douchebag. GL...Rocker, I hope you get what you deserve...
 

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Small units,

They cannot come out ahead. They lose almost every night. They have not updated their website in two days. They are laughing all the way to the bank.

Analyze the plays. They lost the VIP play for the 8th day in a row. How sweet is that. 8-0 is as good as it gets.

I had them at 2-3 today which I get is a good day from what I am gathering from this thread.

Sometimes the truth seems cruel, but if you think these clowns can win at baseball, you need to wake up and get a grasp of reality.

I admire your trying to stay positive, but the time has come to pull the plug and bury this bone.

The Drs are frauds. They lie about their records. They do not account for vigorish in their records.

Everything about them stinks. That is why they are Proctologists!! LOL

Sorry about the sick joke.

Just forget about the Drs group and move on.

I doubt there will be a Dr. Guru site next month.

They are getting torched all over the internet forums.

I am going to try to stay out of this thread.

I did not post the plays tonight out of respect to Chuba.

Let's all just move on and try to grind out a profit at this.

Fade these clowns if you have to play their picks. There is no evidence anywhere that they win. You all will not admit that. Show us some evidence that these guys have ever won!!!

VIP loses for the eighth day in a row that you all have had the picks!!
 

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0-8 = 8-0 for those that know....now personally I have only been playing guru and big daddy, which has been ok, not no $5000, but ok. The last 2 day combined I have gone 8-0, so something is working out. And obviously you gave someone $120 for the plays, as you know what they are.
 
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Fraser ... My friend gives me their plays almost everyday. I counted 3-3 today. Detroit game 1, oakland, and colorado all won today and if i'm not mistaken they were 5-1 yesterday
 

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But I will tell you that I am not going to hate on the organizers...as I think they were in it for good reasons. I have nothing bad to say about chuba, which has nothing bad to say about brett, (but I dont know him). But I would gladly be in another group with chuba as the to-go-guy. GL to everyone in thier future bets.
 

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plays for today:
guru 12* oakland winner

big daddy 10* colorado winner

cogyle 12* det/chw over 10 loss

bond 10* detroit G1 win
10* texas -150 (by the way) loss
and of course vip loser on detroit g2
 

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0-8 = 8-0 for those that know....now personally I have only been playing guru and big daddy, which has been ok, not no $5000, but ok. The last 2 day combined I have gone 8-0, so something is working out. And obviously you gave someone $120 for the plays, as you know what they are.

8-0 over the past 2 days playing guru and fatboy? they've only had 5 plays and they went 4-1.
 

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no, rza, we are talking about the vip plays...and if you faded them you would be 8-0
 

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I'm getting the impression that next months package is going to be closer to $4,000 and not the quite the $5,000 that this months charge was.


All kidding aside, I've been in some long term packages and sometimes it pays to cut your losses. I know it will kill you if they go on a streak but it's something you have to consider. I've been in some packages with the illustrious ATS consultants and they could lose five, six nights in a row with mostly favorites and it would kill your bankroll. Then they'd have one good night and blast it everywhere that they killed the books. It tempts you to continue with their picks but ultimately I made the right decision by passing on all their plays. They lost much more than they admitted. DON'T believe many of these websites. 90% of them inflate their records, don't factor in juice, use lines noone can get, "forget" their losing night, promote the hell out of their few winning nights, etc.

If you are going to chase, use proper money management techniques. Anytime you invest long term, you need to have good money management skills. I know it's easier said than done and I know I have weakened at times but it must be followed particularly when you are chasing. Noone should be wiped out by the first week unless they were going for the kill and that always spells disaster.

Also, Chuba and the others shouldn't be taking any shots on this. The offer was presented and people made their decision to invest or not without any pressure. It's always more economical to get a group together for long term purchases to cut the individual cost. Now, personally I think $5k without some form of guarentee is ridiculous for one month but everyone was aware of the cost going in and made their decision. Live and learn, we all do. But the ringleaders don't deserve any backstabbing. It appears there were no backroom deals between them and the tout. Proof of payment appears to have been made and everything seems in order.

Hope you guys ultimetely win or make the right financial decision to chase or not under good money management techniques. We should all be rooting for each other to win (or limit losses). The house has enough of an advantage and maybe an unbeatable one. VERY few people make a living off this long term, so don't quit your day job.

Finally, much to many of these touts are lazy and give out mostly favorites. Nightly in the forum, the consensus from touts are nearly always on the favorites. It's to the point that you can look at the lines in the morning, screen the - 130 to - 160 favorites and watch all the touts pound those games. The books know this and know that the average Joe has more confidence in a favorite than an underdog. However, picking all favorites is a recipe for disaster. Somewhere there is an annual summary that at the end of nearly all baseball seasons, it shows that if you picked every favorite versus picking every dog, you would certainly lose under both circumstances but you would lose much more on the favorites. So be careful if all they are doing is giving favs. Tempting, I know, but certainly not always the way to go.

So, as a final thought, GOOOOOOOOOOOO Doctors. Make these people some $$$. Good Luck.
 

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deserves what they get???? Hey Rocker....fuck you!!! I hope you get what you deserve. Why would you say that? And would you be saying that if we were winning? My answer is no..you would be saying, "oh please give me the doctors"...all of you would, everyone should thank this group for putting in so much money to get the unknown, dr. plays....yet everyone wants to tell us how dumb we are.None of us do really know yet if they are legitament because we have only had them for 1 week, but everyone thinks they are liars and cheats (I shouldnt talk) but I will ... How can you judge them off of 1 week? tell me. Ok, so yes they are waaaaaaay over priced, yet I still think they will come out ahead. So if, and when they start winning, all of us in the group should just keep quiet and laugh within ourselves about the assholes like this here mr rocker douchebag. GL...Rocker, I hope you get what you deserve...


Anyone who is dumb enough to hand over so much as a single penny to any tout is a moron.
 

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I see at the Drs. website they say they went 4-4-1.

Then they list 7 plays.


One would think that for $5K a month, they could at least keep accurate records.

Congrats to the VIP Club. A wire to wire winner on Boston. They are on a roll now 1-8.

Those 2 hockey picks were really good if you do not like money!!!

I know they are going to get better. After all, they hit over 70% of their games. I know it is true, because Drs. do not lie.

Good luck to any who have the nerve to follow these clowns!!!!:):)
 
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