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Basketball records from start of 2009 season
8-15 NBA
8-3 in CBB
16-18
CFB AS OF NOV 12
1-3
NFL as of Nov 15
2-1
Print, you are falling into the tout trap. Just posting a snapshot or records. Hell, my buddy who lose year after year have good weeks, even good months. That is why it is important to post a service's full body of work. Just pointing out how hot he is this week in cbb is misleading and why so many people on these boards lose money following cappers. You need at least 2 years if not 3-5 preferred (but tough to find) to really gauge a capper. Anyway, my rant is over. Read this opening paragraph that IC writes......
If I had a dollar for everytime he has said something along this line over the last 4 years I would have a brand new Benji. If this kid ever figures out how to remain disciplined he could be one of the most successful public cappers around. He waits until he shits the bed and then remembers, "oh yeah, I need to go back to what has made me succesful". As a client, very frustrated with his willingness to risk OUR money on HIS lack of discipline. Let's hope he keeps focused. NOTICE he is passing on the college FB for Saturday. I'm sure many clients, especially ones that are not LONG term followers are pissed about this, but they shouldn't be. He is best when he limits his card, are as most people, but some people can play high volume with success, he can't
<DIR><DIR>We have won back to back winning weeks in the NFL. Why mess with a good thing? Let's just ride 3 NFL plays that I believe are solid and consequently cash a winning week. Simple does it as I believe this is our best avenue for success rather than a big slate that includes many college games. Let's just go with what has been working.
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Basketball records from start of 2009 season
8-15 NBA
8-3 in CBB
16-18
CFB AS OF NOV 12
1-3
NFL as of Nov 15
2-1
Print, you are falling into the tout trap. Just posting a snapshot or records. Hell, my buddy who lose year after year have good weeks, even good months. That is why it is important to post a service's full body of work. Just pointing out how hot he is this week in cbb is misleading and why so many people on these boards lose money following cappers. You need at least 2 years if not 3-5 preferred (but tough to find) to really gauge a capper. Anyway, my rant is over. Read this opening paragraph that IC writes......
If I had a dollar for everytime he has said something along this line over the last 4 years I would have a brand new Benji. If this kid ever figures out how to remain disciplined he could be one of the most successful public cappers around. He waits until he shits the bed and then remembers, "oh yeah, I need to go back to what has made me succesful". As a client, very frustrated with his willingness to risk OUR money on HIS lack of discipline. Let's hope he keeps focused. NOTICE he is passing on the college FB for Saturday. I'm sure many clients, especially ones that are not LONG term followers are pissed about this, but they shouldn't be. He is best when he limits his card, are as most people, but some people can play high volume with success, he can't
<DIR><DIR>We have won back to back winning weeks in the NFL. Why mess with a good thing? Let's just ride 3 NFL plays that I believe are solid and consequently cash a winning week. Simple does it as I believe this is our best avenue for success rather than a big slate that includes many college games. Let's just go with what has been working.
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Yea, no doubt. He does much better when he limits his plays always has. He went 0-2 overall today in hoops. He lost in the NBA and College. That brings him to 8-4 in college on the year and 8-16 in the NBA. I know the season is young in the NBA but he has some work to do there. He will probably do well in football this week because he only has 3 plays.
@printman: How much did he win in WNBA and MLB? This is the problem he just says he has winning season but no record at all. I suspect just couple of units... in this case useless for paying customers, because they would have to roll for thousand a unit to be profitable with it.
The other problem with his money winning record is that he counts wins as +400 and losses as -400, no juice man :lol:
The other problem with his money winning record is that he counts wins as +400 and losses as -400, no juice man :lol:
IC keeps accurate records and if he says he had a winning season or losing season he did. His recordkeeping has never been in question. His marketing is exactly that...marketing. He is not exactly a straight shooter when it comes to that. He might post "3 of 4" winning weeks when in reality he might be down units. Not often, but I have seen him do that just like they all do.
MY ONLY beef with IC really is his change in style from the first 2 years I followed him. He played 1 POD period, end of discussion. He sometimes gave out a POD with a few ADDED or extra plays which was fine. He never did well with them long term and I only played his POD. If he wants to please the degenerates or volume players he should have 1 POD and then as many extras as he wants or they want. For me, give me the best on the board and that's it.
Friday 11/20
nba won with sacramento
cbb lost with troy
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MY ONLY beef with IC really is his change in style from the first 2 years I followed him. He played 1 POD period, end of discussion. He sometimes gave out a POD with a few ADDED or extra plays which was fine. He never did well with them long term and I only played his POD. If he wants to please the degenerates or volume players he should have 1 POD and then as many extras as he wants or they want. For me, give me the best on the board and that's it.
Friday 11/20
nba won with sacramento
cbb lost with troy
1-1
been busy, going to update records from last week. Not going to list each play, just a quick update...
Basketball records from start of 2009 season
10-19 NBA
10-7 in CBB
20-26
CFB AS OF NOV 12 - did not have any CFB 11/22 weekend
1-3
NFL as of Nov 15
2-4
All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season
23-33, 39%....ouch
Despite a hot start to the CBB season he has slowed down. NBA started slow and has continued to be brutal, losing nearly 2 of every 3.
Went 0-3 this past weekend in NFL and passed on the CFB card.
Basketball records from start of 2009 season
10-19 NBA
10-7 in CBB
20-26
CFB AS OF NOV 12 - did not have any CFB 11/22 weekend
1-3
NFL as of Nov 15
2-4
All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season
23-33, 39%....ouch
Despite a hot start to the CBB season he has slowed down. NBA started slow and has continued to be brutal, losing nearly 2 of every 3.
Went 0-3 this past weekend in NFL and passed on the CFB card.
So it has been 3 weeks and IC is 10 games under .500. He averaging 2.7 plays per day versus 1 play per day when he was a successful capper. That may not seem like a big difference, but it is for him. He has never played multiple plays per day and won over any stretch of time. His down weeks in the past would be 3wins and 4 loses. A whopping 1 game under .500. This past week he is 4-11. In his worst month ever of playing 1 game per day max he was never 7 games under .500 for an entire month.
Until he goes back to 1 play per day, which is likely never going to happen I'd suggest NOT putting money on his plays and never purchasing a package. YOU should never mess with a successful strategy and if you do and it doesn't improve what you have........go BACK. Not difficult to understand IC. Too bad, too sad, such wasted potential and opportunity.
Until he goes back to 1 play per day, which is likely never going to happen I'd suggest NOT putting money on his plays and never purchasing a package. YOU should never mess with a successful strategy and if you do and it doesn't improve what you have........go BACK. Not difficult to understand IC. Too bad, too sad, such wasted potential and opportunity.
Arizona,
I think he is still successfull in College Basketball. He Won Outright with Portland last night and they crushed UCLA. He won Outright in with Montana State the night before and they beat San Fran. I think when IC does 1 POD per College Basketball he is successfull. You are right though, he used to do 1 Play Overall. But, now he is doing 1 Play per sport. He is
He is 12-7 in College Basketball this year: Again, I think you HAVE to split his CBB and NBA. He is amazing in CBB if you track him that way, and he sucks at the NBA this year.
College Basketball has always been his deal though. I challenge you to find a guy that is 63% - but more importantly, for every 2 picks he makes, he calles an Outright Winner such as Portland last night. He has talent in college ball and he is sticking to the 1 college ball play a day. I ONLY PLAY HIS CBB Until right now.
11-26: Portland +5.5 over UCLA: Outright W
11-25: Montana State +6 over San Fran: Outright W
11-23: Cornell +13.5 over Syracuse: L
11-22: Florida State +4 over Florida: L
11-21: Northern Colorado -2 over Air Force: W
11-20: Troy +16 over Florida: L
11-19: Ohio State -2 over UNC: L
11-18: Utah State +2.5 over Utah: W
11-17: Wofford +3.5 over Georgia +3.5: Outright W
11-16: Eastern Washington +16 over Washington State: W
11-16: Missouri State +5 over Auburn: Outright W
11-16: CS Fullerton +16 over UCLA: Outright W
11-15: UNC-Wilmington +2 over George Washington: L
11-14: Cornell +7.5 over Alabama: Outright W
11-13: Georgia -16 over New Orleans: L
11/12: James Madison +16.5 over Ohio Sate: L
11/11: UNC over NC-Central: W
11/09: Murray State +13.5over Cal: W
I think he is still successfull in College Basketball. He Won Outright with Portland last night and they crushed UCLA. He won Outright in with Montana State the night before and they beat San Fran. I think when IC does 1 POD per College Basketball he is successfull. You are right though, he used to do 1 Play Overall. But, now he is doing 1 Play per sport. He is
He is 12-7 in College Basketball this year: Again, I think you HAVE to split his CBB and NBA. He is amazing in CBB if you track him that way, and he sucks at the NBA this year.
College Basketball has always been his deal though. I challenge you to find a guy that is 63% - but more importantly, for every 2 picks he makes, he calles an Outright Winner such as Portland last night. He has talent in college ball and he is sticking to the 1 college ball play a day. I ONLY PLAY HIS CBB Until right now.
11-26: Portland +5.5 over UCLA: Outright W
11-25: Montana State +6 over San Fran: Outright W
11-23: Cornell +13.5 over Syracuse: L
11-22: Florida State +4 over Florida: L
11-21: Northern Colorado -2 over Air Force: W
11-20: Troy +16 over Florida: L
11-19: Ohio State -2 over UNC: L
11-18: Utah State +2.5 over Utah: W
11-17: Wofford +3.5 over Georgia +3.5: Outright W
11-16: Eastern Washington +16 over Washington State: W
11-16: Missouri State +5 over Auburn: Outright W
11-16: CS Fullerton +16 over UCLA: Outright W
11-15: UNC-Wilmington +2 over George Washington: L
11-14: Cornell +7.5 over Alabama: Outright W
11-13: Georgia -16 over New Orleans: L
11/12: James Madison +16.5 over Ohio Sate: L
11/11: UNC over NC-Central: W
11/09: Murray State +13.5over Cal: W
He is actually doing poorly enough in all sports but CBB that you could call him a good fade in those sports. I think he is good enough in NBA that he will likely do no worse than 50% long term so I would not recommend a fade there.
However, 42% he last 5 weeks gives you 58%. I still maintain he will win more than lose if he goes back to one POD. he can probably hit 54% with a POD per sport, but not much better. We will see.....
However, 42% he last 5 weeks gives you 58%. I still maintain he will win more than lose if he goes back to one POD. he can probably hit 54% with a POD per sport, but not much better. We will see.....
Let me start by saying I get no joy in posting these losing records or in saying, "i told you so", but it is what it is. IC got killed over the weekend. He went 1-2 NBA, 2-1 CBB, 0-1 CFB, and 0-5 NFL for a combined 3-9. Again, he is a BAD volume capper. Yes he is doing well in CBB but he used to win in all sports when he isolated his card to one game a day. He is now 20 games under .500 with juice since basketball season, ouch.
THROUGH Sunday DEC 6:
Basketball records from start of 2009 season
14-25 NBA
16-10 in CBB
CFB AS OF NOV 12
1-7
NFL as of Nov 15
4-11
All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season
35-53
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THROUGH Sunday DEC 6:
Basketball records from start of 2009 season
14-25 NBA
16-10 in CBB
CFB AS OF NOV 12
1-7
NFL as of Nov 15
4-11
All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season
35-53
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