These games are fixed...& I'll tell you why..

[Loren78]

Loren wouldn't it be more beneficial to your theory for STL not to cover this week b/c they play CHI on MNF next week? just a thought

Well as it looks of right now you may be right about that...The St Louis game featured very lop sided percentages in their favour and the score seems to indicate that. I was on them for another reason...which I wont bother getting into because it was obviously wrong....The Bears more than likely will cover against the Rams..however we will have to wait and see what pecentages are on that game...The Minnesota outcome will help determine that...

Pay close attention to the New England & Bears games as well as the Kansas City game, all teams which incidentally were receiving very high percentages....

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

WELL 2 OUT FIRST 3 ISNT BAD CANT READ INTO EVERY GAME SO EASY EVERYTIME AND IF YOU KNEW EVERY GAME YOU WOULD MOST CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU COULD COUNT

St Louis Rams (- 6.5)

Atlanta Falcons (+2)

Detroit Lions (+13.5)

Oakland Raiders (-3)

New York Giants (+3.5)


SEE HOW THE REST FAIR I WOULD SAY JUDGING BY %'S THAT TEX IS THE PLAY AT +3 NOT OAKLAND I WONT BE SURPRISED TO SEE A WIN OR AT THE LEAST A COVER.

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

amazing as i typed that houston jumps out front 7-0 fitting the fixed game theory as mentioned earlier when a team jumps to an early lead.

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

giants out front 7-0 big surprise. why is everybody so stupid not to beleave in a fix??? all week you see everywhere how good Dallas is and how the Giants are headed nowhere. Amazing I will not be surprised to see NY win SU

 

[Loren78]

I really need to start posting my plays earlier...Gitty's advice could have saved me from taking those blasted Rams...hahaha...You see I dont always go against the public as over 70 percent of them were on the Rams....

Houstons coach has it in for the Raiders and the percentages were too onesided in that matchup...as Oakland is getting over 75 percent of the action...I had to pull out....

 

[gitty44]

why did oakland become a no play?

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

%%%'s way to high favoring oakland definate houstan win or at least cover

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

texans and giants cover no surprise. stating to get better at reading this shit

 

[Loren78]

Want to get started early as todays events have yet revealed more to the aspect of the "Rigged" game. This will better prepare us for next week...which indeed has everything to do with the week before...

Bengals

Atlanta 29, Cincinnati 27 - Week 8
Baltimore 26, Cincinnati 20 - Week 9
San Diego 49, Cincinnati 41 - Week 10

Angry Public - "Im Finished With These Guys!!"

Cincinnati 31, New Orleans 16 (-2.5) - Week 11
Cincinnati 30, Cleveland 0 - Week 12
Cincinnati 13, Baltimore 7 - Week 13 (Major Opponent!)

Falcons

Detroit 30, Atlanta 14 - Week 9
Cleveland 17, Atlanta 13 - Week 10
Baltimore 24, Atlanta 10 - Week 11
New Orleans 31, Atlanta 13 - Week 12

Angry Public - "Im Finished With These Guys"

Atlanta - ?? @ Washington (-2.5)

http://www.nfl.com/schedules

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=422156&page=9

So todays events in regards to the Falcons and the Bengals did indeed prove that there does seem to be a correlation between the two teams in their most recent performances....Just imagine what the line would have been 7 weeks ago in the Atlanta vs Washington game...And yet here we are with the Falcons covering as dogs...Very similar to the Bengals who in Week 11 as you can see did the very same thing....What other similarities are there between the two teams?...

The Timing - As Both The Falcons & the Bengals had not covered as dogs in quite some time...You will notice that Cincinnati also covered as a favourite the following week against a team that by rights they should have destroyed and did...and yet the line was only set around (-3.5)
What would that line been at prior to the "loosing streak"? I would imagine a lot higher.

Do you see how the reverse is now occuring?

Both the Bengals & the Falcons were very difficult teams to back for the sharps because you didnt know which team was going to show up and quite often they never did. Sharps & Squares alike lost money. So now the public has finally come around...

"Okay maybe I should stop laying points with that team...and fade them" Then look what happens....

Cincinnati 31, New Orleans 16 (-2.5) - Week 11
Cincinnati 30, Cleveland 0 - Week 12
Cincinnati 13, Baltimore 7 - Week 13(Major Opponent!)

Atlanta 24, Washington 14 - Week 13

Just as soon as the public money switches sides they are Covering and more importantly, winning again. And guess who is there to collect?

THE HOUSE - SYNDICATE - Who once again are on the winning side of the outcome of both the Bengal and Falcons games this week. The House is making money when these teams loose and is now making money when they win....Imagine that?

Over the next two weeks pay very close Attention to the Atlanta Falcons....if you examine the correlation between them and the Bengals, you will see an identical pattern....lets take a look.....

Look who Cincinnati played in Week 12, a week after their win as a [Dog...

Cincinnati 30, Cleveland 0 - Week 12

Now let me get this straight....The same Cleveland Browns who beat the Falcons & nearly stole one away from the Chargers AND WHO ALSO BEAT THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS today while NOT ALLOWING LARRY JOHNSON IN THE END ZONE.....MANAGED TO GET SHUT OUT BY A TEAM WHOS SEASON WHAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER???...According to the experts....

This same Bengal team went on to beat one of the leagues hottest teams if not the hottest, the Baltimore Ravens. Lets take a look at Atlantas schedule....

Atlanta at Tampa Bay - Week 14 - Are they going to cover as favourites? Not necessarily but if you have been paying attention to what I have been talking about here, surely you could understand why this game corelates to the Bengals game vs the Browns last week. It should be noted that both the Browns and the Bucs were the teams costing people money earlier in the year when they were covering as dogs...against the more public teams...And now tha the public money or at least the spotlight in the very least is now off of Atlanta....would it not make sense to see them cover as a favourite in this spot? Then look who they play the following week

Dallas at Atlanta - Week 15 - 8pm - Saturday Night

Theres that Deja Vu Again...this game reminds me of another recent primetime and most difficult game to cap....

Cincinnati 13, Baltimore 7 - Week 13

Get the Picture? Just imagine how split the percentages will be....Primetime game...Vick is useless...change him to a running back...etc...etc...See Where I am going with this one?

Lets take a look at the percentage of action some of the teams received today and keep in mind as always that the House obviously wins if the team who looses receives the higher percentage....Every week you can expect to see Lop Sided amounts of action toward one side...you will often find that in those games, the dog covers and or in some cases wins outright....Week 13 was no exception.

http://www.sportsbook.com/

Indianapolis Colts ML = 89 % / Spread = 75 %
Tennessee Titans ML = 11 % / Spread = 25 %

Tennessee 20, Indianapolis 17 (Indy -7.5)

Kansas City Chiefs ML = 71 % / Spread = 75 %
Cleveland Browns ML = 29 % / Spread = 25 %

Cleveland 31, Kansas City 28 (OT) (kc -7.5)

San Diego Chargers ML = 22 % / Spread = 70 %
Buffalo Bills ML = 78 % / Spread = 30 %

San Diego 24, Buffalo 21 (San Diego -6)

New England Patriots ML = n/a / Spread = 75 %
Detroit Lions ML = n/a / Spread = 25 %

New England 28, Detroit 21 (Patriots -13.5)

Miami Dolphins ML = n/a / Spread = 64 %
Jacksonville ML = n/a / Spread = 36 %

New England 28, Detroit 21 (Miami - 1)

Not all of the games that featured Lop-Sided Action saw the dog cover. And there was a reason for that. Outside variables...trends, etc...As I have said before it isn't as simple as going against the public...its knowing when too.....

 

[Loren78]

Sorry for the Double Post...please excuse that mess up there

Week 13 Wrap-Up

Want to get started early as todays events have yet revealed more to the aspect of the "Rigged" game. This will better prepare us for next week...which indeed has everything to do with the week before...

Bengals

Atlanta 29, Cincinnati 27 - Week 8
Baltimore 26, Cincinnati 20 - Week 9
San Diego 49, Cincinnati 41 - Week 10

Angry Public - "Im Finished With These Guys!!"

Cincinnati 31, New Orleans 16 (-2.5) - Week 11
Cincinnati 30, Cleveland 0 - Week 12
Cincinnati 13, Baltimore 7 - Week 13 (Major Opponent!)

Falcons

Detroit 30, Atlanta 14 - Week 9
Cleveland 17, Atlanta 13 - Week 10
Baltimore 24, Atlanta 10 - Week 11
New Orleans 31, Atlanta 13 - Week 12

Angry Public - "Im Finished With These Guys"

Atlanta - ?? @ Washington (-2.5)

http://www.nfl.com/schedules

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=422156&page=9

So todays events in regards to the Falcons and the Bengals did indeed prove that there does seem to be a correlation between the two teams in their most recent performances....Just imagine what the line would have been 7 weeks ago in the Atlanta vs Washington game...And yet here we are with the Falcons covering as dogs...Very similar to the Bengals who in Week 11 as you can see did the very same thing....What other similarities are there between the two teams?...

The Timing - As Both The Falcons & the Bengals had not covered as dogs in quite some time...You will notice that Cincinnati also covered as a favourite the following week against a team that by rights they should have destroyed and did...and yet the line was only set around (-3.5)
What would that line been at prior to the "loosing streak"? I would imagine a lot higher.

Do you see how the reverse is now occuring?

Both the Bengals & the Falcons were very difficult teams to back for the sharps because you didnt know which team was going to show up and quite often they never did. Sharps & Squares alike lost money. So now the public has finally come around...

"Okay maybe I should stop laying points with that team...and fade them" Then look what happens....

Cincinnati 31, New Orleans 16 (-2.5) - Week 11
Cincinnati 30, Cleveland 0 - Week 12
Cincinnati 13, Baltimore 7 - Week 13(Major Opponent!)

Atlanta 24, Washington 14 - Week 13

Just as soon as the public money switches sides they are Covering and more importantly, winning again. And guess who is there to collect?

THE HOUSE - SYNDICATE - Who once again are on the winning side of the outcome of both the Bengal and Falcons games this week. The House is making money when these teams loose and is now making money when they win....Imagine that?

Over the next two weeks pay very close Attention to the Atlanta Falcons....if you examine the correlation between them and the Bengals, you will see an identical pattern....lets take a look.....

Look who Cincinnati played in Week 12, a week after their win as a [Dog...

Cincinnati 30, Cleveland 0 - Week 12

Now let me get this straight....The same Cleveland Browns who beat the Falcons & nearly stole one away from the Chargers AND WHO ALSO BEAT THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS today while NOT ALLOWING LARRY JOHNSON IN THE END ZONE.....MANAGED TO GET SHUT OUT BY A TEAM WHOS SEASON WHAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER???...According to the experts....

This same Bengal team went on to beat one of the leagues hottest teams if not the hottest, the Baltimore Ravens. Lets take a look at Atlantas schedule....

Atlanta at Tampa Bay - Week 14 - Are they going to cover as favourites? Not necessarily but if you have been paying attention to what I have been talking about here, surely you could understand why this game corelates to the Bengals game vs the Browns last week. It should be noted that both the Browns and the Bucs were the teams costing people money earlier in the year when they were covering as dogs...against the more public teams...And now tha the public money or at least the spotlight in the very least is now off of Atlanta....would it not make sense to see them cover as a favourite in this spot? Then look who they play the following week

Dallas at Atlanta - Week 15 - 8pm - Saturday Night

Theres that Deja Vu Again...this game reminds me of another recent primetime and most difficult game to cap....

Cincinnati 13, Baltimore 7 - Week 13

Get the Picture? Just imagine how split the percentages will be....Primetime game...Vick is useless...change him to a running back...etc...etc...See Where I am going with this one?

Lets take a look at the percentage of action some of the teams received today and keep in mind as always that the House obviously wins if the team who looses receives the higher percentage....Every week you can expect to see Lop Sided amounts of action toward one side...you will often find that in those games, the dog covers and or in some cases wins outright....Week 13 was no exception.

http://www.sportsbook.com/

Indianapolis Colts ML = 89 % / Spread = 75 %
Tennessee Titans ML = 11 % / Spread = 25 %

Tennessee 20, Indianapolis 17 (Indy -7.5)

Kansas City Chiefs ML = 71 % / Spread = 75 %
Cleveland Browns ML = 29 % / Spread = 25 %

Cleveland 31, Kansas City 28 (OT) (kc -7.5)

San Diego Chargers ML = 22 % / Spread = 70 %
Buffalo Bills ML = 78 % / Spread = 30 %

San Diego 24, Buffalo 21 (San Diego -6)

New England Patriots ML = n/a / Spread = 75 %
Detroit Lions ML = n/a / Spread = 25 %

New England 28, Detroit 21 (Patriots -13.5)

Miami Dolphins ML = n/a / Spread = 64 %
Jacksonville ML = n/a / Spread = 36 %

New England 28, Detroit 21 (Miami - 1)

Not all of the games that featured Lop-Sided Action saw the dog cover. And there was a reason for that. Outside variables...trends, etc...As I have said before it isn't as simple as going against the public...its knowing when too.....

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

will be looking forward to this weeks predictions.

 

[Loren78]

When you see a game where the percentages are completely out of whack and favoured toward one side...and the House would stand to make a killing if that team did not cover....you have to consider several things..

1) Timing - Whens the last time that team covered as a favourite?

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=422156&page=8

Tampa Bay 10 & Carolina 24 - Week 10 - Panthers (-9)
St Louis 0 @ Carolina 15 - Week 11 - Panthers (-7.5)

Fairly recent. Of course we know Carolina went on to loose to the Skins the following week. But that loss did not stop them from receiving a high percentage this week agains the Eagles...Yes we do have to consider the fact that they did not cover the previous week and thus are in good timing for a cover this week but they had two straight covers before their blunder at Washington. In both games, the percentages were more evenly distributed than the games vs the Skins & the Eagles as both teams were considered far less superior than Carolina. Were as St Louis & Tampa Bay, both Superbowl winners in recent years were considered a little more closer to the level of a Carolina. So we should not be suprised to see Carolina not covering to a lesser Washington team...and an even lesser Philadelphia team given their recent debacle agains the Colts last Monday Night....The Percentages were very Lop Sided in both matchups....

www.Sportsbook.com

(Week 12)

Carolina ML = 88 % / Spread = 78 %
Washington ML = 12 % / Spread = 22 %

(Week 13)

Carolina ML = 59 % / Spread = 68 %
Philadelphia ML = 41 % / Spread = 32 %

Just because the percentages were Lop Sided, does that mean Philly was the automatic play, no because the timing has to be correct. We know Carolina didn't cover their last game as a favourite...and that has to be considered however, because they are such a public and popular team, regardless of their loss, they still receive large amounts of money week in and week out...last night was no exception...So now we have to ask, When was the last time Philly Covered as a Dog? How often do we see Philly as a Dog anyway?

Philadelphia 21 @ Indianapolis 45 - Week 12

So the timing was good for Philly in regards to whether or not they would cover as a Dog, and more importantly, they were receiving a far lower percentage of action than their counterpart, Carolina.

Perception

We have to realize that the public opinion on Carolina as being a great team in association with the fact that McNabb was out, played a large part in how this line was set. Last weeks loss to the Colts overshadowed the fact that Jeff Garcia despite being 36 has always been a competant quarter back. How much worse would he have been than say...rookie Jason Cambell, who only threw for 118 yards with 2 td's & 1 pick and still managed to beat these same Carolina Panthers last week? Sure Garcia is 36 but he is an athletic 36 and he is no slouch...Last weeks loss to the Colts likely made people forget this.


Who do these teams play next week?

From a Casino standpoint, A Carolina win last night would have been disasterous, but a Carolina win next week? Would the Casino loose money if Carolina won? Well that depends on how much action the Panthers would receive....

New York Giants @ Carolina Panthers - Week 14

THE CASINOS DONT MIND WHEN THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE THEN THOSE TEAMS CAN BE ALLOWED TO PLAY TO THEIR TRUE POTENTIAL BECAUSE THE HOUSE WILL NOT TAKE A TREMENDOUS HIT...BECAUSE THE PERCENTAGE OF ACTION THE TEAM RECEIVES WILL BE FAR LOWER THAN IT WAS PRIOR TO THEIR "LOOSING" STREAK...

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=422156&page=9

I think its safe to say that the publics view on this game will be one of apathy. The public has had a very hard time figuring these teams out and is likely ready to fade them the rest of the season. Now given that these teams happen to be playing each other this week, just imagine how Split the action is going to be on this game...Wouldn't it be great for the House if Carolina were to cover as a favourite here, especially since a lot of bettors will likely be afraid to take them after two consecutive losses to mediocre teams like Washington & Philly...The Giants are going to be a very tempting dog next week...while the public will be leary of the Panthers after being burned by them twice in succession....

Whens the last time the Giants covered as a Dog....

(-3.5) Dallas 23 @ New York 20 - Week 13

Whens the last time the Panthers actually covered as a favourite....

St Louis 0 @ Carolina 15 - Week 11 - Panthers (-7.5)

You will often find that the public teams go several weeks without covering...Sometimes 2 or 3 weeks go by when teams wont cover. This is long enough time...for the public to get so fed up to a point where the House can afford...it. The House cannot have popular public teams cover week in and week out.

http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=422156&page=8

Its been three weeks since Carolina covered as a favourite...the book knows this, but the public ignores it....Does this mean they cover this week against the Giants...not necessarily as it is very early in the week. Regardless perhaps now you can see what I mean when I say one week has everything to do with the other....There are patterns that can literally play themselves out weeks down the line...all you have to do is find them.....

 

[syddiggers]

Yawn

 

[Boxslayer]

Hi Loren. Im a big fan of your theory. I was wondering, since you seem to take so much time to devote into your writeups, if you could take 4 or 5 sentences and explain to me that when last years public favorites hit at an alarming rate, how those games were fixed last year?

I guess they just took a year off last year? Or maybe they were setting us all up for this year. hno:

Thanks in advance, I really look forward to your explanation of this. :thumbsup:

 

[syddiggers]

Box, I saw you ask a similar question a page or two back and it got ignored, just like it will again this time. You have no chance of getting an explanation as it doesnt fit in with the conspiracy theories. All this thread is doing is validating people to thinking that the games are rigged and its not their fault when they lose.

I also have a question for you Loren. Why are your postings so much longer after the matches have been played? Your post-game analysis is extremely thorough and they leave your pre-game musings for dust. Hindsight is a beautiful thing.

Gamblers and excuses, a match made in hell.

 

[Boxslayer]

My favorite part of the theory is the timing excuse.

Also the "Im done with them" theory. aka, team goes through a cold streak and finally wins a game. Naturally, the point spreads will begin to favor the other team and the public goes cold on those teams and loses faith because they have short term memory and the house collects eventually when they win again. Thats how sports go at all levels, even Little League. Doesnt mean the game was fixed.

By the time this theory is done, it is going to have so many coincidences and excuses, you are going to see a HUGE list of conspiracy theory to explain how it matched up coincidentally.

Coming soon to a theatre near you....

The "I'm done with this team theory, but the timing wasnt right to play them yet, but we did, but the strange line movement caused us to jump off, only to see the public favorite lose all game, but the call was made into the coachs headset in the 4th quarter and he changed the outcome via the media."

AND whos there to collect....."the house".

No....the house is ALWYS there to collect because they are professionals at what they do matching up against amateurs.

 

[BETSOMEMORE]

LOREN ingnore the doubters. let them keep losing there cash. I've said it before and I'll say it again "people who don't think the NFL is rigged are living in a fantasy world!" keep doing what you do looking forward to all this weeks picks. Nobody can predict all games however I bet you could come even closer if yuo knew exact money amounts on spreads and sides. It dont take a genious to realize the house will come out on top ALMOST always. Except when there setting up the gambler for an even bigger hit down the road. I knew philly would cover last night again thanks to some of your previous points. It is noteworthy that the house is not only hitting before the game as well as getting countless suckers on halftime line. When good teams are behind or barely covering idiots adding more to there original wager thinking that they will cover the original spread when smart persons know it's not gonna happen. Thanks again for your insight. FADE THE DOUBTERS THERE POST ARE MEANINGLESS~

 

[Boxslayer]

Betsomemore I AM CERTAINLY not anywhere close to losing in the NFL.

I am trying to steer a guy like you away from these excuses and learn to cap games CORRECTLY. There is a reason this thread is in the rubber room and it sends the WRONG message to people. You are a guy who has lost his ass to the point where he needs to make a rubber room post asking strangers for money. The more excuses you make, the longer it will take you to come out of your gambling funk. THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER.

The original poster has a lot of coincidences.

Still, I ask how was last year a fix? The books were getting killed.

 

[Loren78]

LOREN ingnore the doubters. let them keep losing there cash. I've said it before and I'll say it again "people who don't think the NFL is rigged are living in a fantasy world!" keep doing what you do looking forward to all this weeks picks. Nobody can predict all games however I bet you could come even closer if yuo knew exact money amounts on spreads and sides. It dont take a genious to realize the house will come out on top ALMOST always. Except when there setting up the gambler for an even bigger hit down the road. I knew philly would cover last night again thanks to some of your previous points. It is noteworthy that the house is not only hitting before the game as well as getting countless suckers on halftime line. When good teams are behind or barely covering idiots adding more to there original wager thinking that they will cover the original spread when smart persons know it's not gonna happen. Thanks again for your insight. FADE THE DOUBTERS THERE POST ARE MEANINGLESS~

Appreciate that BET....you seem to be getting a better handle on how this system works. But word to the wise, it is not always about choosing dogs...the fix can also be in when favourites win. This is a common misconception among the skeptics who believe that a fix is synonymous with the dog covering the spread....Oh I wish it were that easy...

My previous posts on Even Keel Percentage...explain this in greater detail. What is about to happen in Week 14, will make this a lot easier to understand....

It really does not require one to believe the game is rigged as most people are not aware of how this is accomplished. Such people will have a hard time believing in the possibiliy of a fix. Don's Sucker Bet Thread would be the better option for such people. But before you make a wager...consider the fact that the somebody (The Casino) stands to loose and or gain an obsurd about of money depending on the outcome. It does not hurt to remember these things before laying it down on Sunday....

As for the doubters...As I have said from the beginning of this thread...Feel free to disagree and look elsewhere ....this is not the place for you as we are most definitely through the looking glass here...

If the information is that disturbing to the reader, there is always the ignore button....but I suspect that EGO...will not allow some of the skeptics to utilize that function...I suspect the fact that this thread has awakened quite a few people and aroused suspicions in many others while garnering over 5000 views has gotten to quite a few of the skeptics....Why else would such people continue to show up in a thread they have no interest in? And if I do not respond to somebodies question it is likely because...they have been on ignore from the inception of this very thread...

Week 14 is on the way.....

 

[Boxslayer]

Hey Girlyman, (Boxslayer) Post your plays every Sunday, until the end of the season. I WOULD BET ANYTHING, Lorens record on his games would be better than yours. PUT UP OR SHUT THE HELL UP.

Giants (BET NO MORE), welcome to the forum. I do my post my plays, EVERY SUNDAY, in the NFL forum, and I havent had a losing week in 10 straight weeks I believe.

I've been here since November of 2004 posting my plays, every Sunday. Where have you been, rook?

I'm not into handicapping contests. I dont even join the free ones offerred by therx. It takes time and focus away on my main goal: beating the house. Which I have done consistently in every sport since joing the forum without conspiracy theories.

My question is legitamate. No matter how I aks it, nicely or not, it gets ignored for a reason. That reason is it blows up the original posters entire theory. And we cant have that happen.

I'll ask it one more time, and if ANYONE can answer it for me, I'll be very surprised.

How was last year a fix when the books lost their ass with public favorites winning the majority of their games? That means the teams that got the majority of the money on them, were not covering.

Watch it get ignored, and when it does ask yourself why it got ignored. Silence is golden and should tell you everything you need to know.