The SEC is about to go down in flames

[BernieVegas]

I was to lazy to read through the thread but I think when you have that many teams that are so good there are going to spots on the schedule that are tuff spots to win whether it be an emotional down, or winning on the road... this conference is just a monster to get through.

It use to just be georgia, flordia, tennessee, bama, lsu, and maybe auburn. add to that mizzu, SC, miss st, ole miss.. who and the hell can go undefeated against that slate? There is not another conference out there that has a team that could survive that, to many blow hards out there who let their love for their college team cloud their minds.

Very true OSU!!!...Right and people as always criticizing the Big 10 yet Missouri LOST AT HOME TO ONE OF THOSE SHITTY BIG TEN TEAMS. LOST AT HOME TO INDIANA LOL. With that being said we know the worst team in the Big 10 is better then the Best Team in the SEC East LMAO. Yes Missouri had a bad game and had their period that week but none the less Indiana is the worst team in the Big 10.

on to the playoffs...didn't most of you cry baby bitches want a playoff and low and behold the NCAA football minds put one together. They started it off with this four team playoff and the SEC fans are crying foul because none of their teams may get in. They want it raised to eight teams now. They claim their schedule is too tough in the SEC. Let me let you in on a little clue. The two teams Mississippi and Mississippi State played this last weekend out of conference couldn't beat some major high schools lol...and truthfully that goes for the majority of the SEC's out of conference schedule. LSU every year plays some schools out of conference that a group of nuns could beat.

I'm sick of people talking shit about the Big 10 when they fuckin play anyone. Michigan State played Oregon, Ohio State played Virginia Tech , Indiana played Missouri, Minnesota played CAL, Michigan played Utah and Wisconsin played LSU just to name a few.and if you notice the Big10/SEC have committed to play each other in Bowl games and most games are very competitive.

There will be plenty of crying when the playoff participants are named basically because in the Top 10-15 there exists much parity between the teams. Conferences aside, the Baylor's and TCU's of the world and the Oregon's ,Arizona State's, and Arizona's and the Ohio State's, Michigan State's, Wisconsin's and Nebraska's of the world can play with anyone on any given day....

So stay tuned...I can't wait for the crying to continue

Yours in Winners
BernieV

 

[GoSooners]

Just my thoughts but I would really like to see TCU or Baylor get a shot at the SEC .. I dont think they could win it but I would like to see them have a shot. OSU is to young to handle the mental part of it, I think Oregon is the best in the p12 they are just not improving and QB can only do so much, FSU is just lucky imo ( but you have to be to win it all )..

I think Baylor or TCU would be a much more exciting opponent in a playoff than FSU would. FSU doesn't have the look of a championship type of team. They are too one dimensional on offense. To give you an idea how different they are from last season, last year they rushed for over 200 yards per game and averaged 533 ypg on offense. And they gave up only 271 ypg on defense. This year they are rushing for only 120 ypg and 465 ypg on offense while giving up 380 ypg on defense. That is nearly a 200 yard difference on both sides of the ball from last season. I'm just not seeing it with this team. It would be a shame if they got in instead of a Baylor or TCU. Or an Ohio State for that matter. Those teams have much better numbers against as good or better competition.

 

[olemiss33]

I think Baylor or TCU would be a much more exciting opponent in a playoff than FSU would. FSU doesn't have the look of a championship type of team. They are too one dimensional on offense. To give you an idea how different they are from last season, last year they rushed for over 200 yards per game and averaged 533 ypg on offense. And they gave up only 271 ypg on defense. This year they are rushing for only 120 ypg and 465 ypg on offense while giving up 380 ypg on defense. That is nearly a 200 yard difference on both sides of the ball from last season. I'm just not seeing it with this team. It would be a shame if they got in instead of a Baylor or TCU. Or an Ohio State for that matter. Those teams have much better numbers against as good or better competition.

Agree, and it's why I hope they get knocked off. I have watched FSU at least 3-4 times this year, and have yet to come away impressed. Florida is starting to play a little better, and it wouldn't be shocking at all if Miami or FL knocked them off....and because of the way they have played, plus the fact that I think people want to see Jameis fail, I don't think a one loss FSU team gets in. I would take a two loss SEC team, or a one loss Big 12 team over them.

 

[rolltide]

I'm sick of people talking shit about the Big 10. Michigan State played Oregon, Ohio State played Virginia Tech , Indiana played Missouri, Minnesota played CAL, Michigan played Utah and Wisconsin played LSU

uh.....

MSU lost
OSU lost
Northwestern (not Minn) lost
Indiana won - congrats!!!
Wisconsin lost
Michigan lost

but thanks for sharing, bern....

 

[LecheMocha]

TCU is the big xii's only possible team that can make the playoffs - and it's a long shot. I don't know why Baylor is even in the conversation because their strength of schedule is laughable. Have you seen their ooc opponents? Then on top of that the big xii is weak as a conference. They lost all of their ooc match ups against ranked teams. The playoff Committee is supposed to award the places to the best teams that went through the toughest tests during the season. The backdooring your way into the championship by playing cupcakes and not having a conference championship game are over. The big xii is finished in it's current form.

 

[bigtease]

here is a scenario not for sure if anyone has brought this up or not
Alabama beats Miss St by1 and wins out
Miss ST only loss to Bama

that means to me SEC gets2 teams in thoughts

 

[tmader7]

here is a scenario not for sure if anyone has brought this up or not
Alabama beats Miss St by1 and wins out
Miss ST only loss to Bama

that means to me SEC gets2 teams in thoughts

First of all, Bama beats Miss St. by more than 1, I'm thinking 10+. So your paper cup holds no water. SEC gets one in, that's it. Oregon runs the table, they're in, Ohio State is probably in, TCU deserves to be in, that's it, only four get in.

~T~

 

[LecheMocha]

I don't want to see two SEC teams in the playoff. But the other conferences need to take care of their business. Ohio St in the B1G. Oregon in the PAC 12. But both have to win out though.

 

[bigtease]

Ohio st is not getting in lost to v tech either az st or Oregon out of pac 12 Miami beats fsu Saturday hopefully
AZ ST Ms ST Bama TCU then Baylor Nebraska upsets ohio st

it could happen

 

[wcbuzzsaw]

Why not just let the games be played out. We've got 2 undefeated teams right now and a bunch of wannabees. So far MS St and FSU have taken care of business and rest have stumbled along the way. I'm not convinced either will lose.

 

[LecheMocha]

Baylor is not going into the playoff. They have no strength of schedule. Any team in the SEC West would be undefeated playing Baylor's joke of a schedule. Again, the playoff committee is going to allow teams to back door their way in a cupcakes. Especially from the weak big xii. It would take a major shake up with multiple teams losing down the stretch. And that would open the door for two SEC teams before Baylor.

 

[GoSooners]

Baylor is not going into the playoff. They have no strength of schedule. Any team in the SEC West would be undefeated playing Baylor's joke of a schedule. Again, the playoff committee is going to allow teams to back door their way in a cupcakes. Especially from the weak big xii. It would take a major shake up with multiple teams losing down the stretch. And that would open the door for two SEC teams before Baylor.

The thing is, we don't know for sure what the committee will do in the case of a second one loss SEC team. I know this summer that the committee stated they will put a lot more weight into picking conference champions as opposed to non-champions. What gets me is the perception that the media keeps giving that TCU is the best team in the Big 12. Last time I looked Baylor beat TCU and have yet to play Kansas State, which could propel them over TCU in the polls. If both teams win out, Baylor and TCU would share the crown, but Baylor would be declared the official winner of the Big 12 based on their head to head win.

 

[LecheMocha]

Baylor is not going into the playoff. They have no strength of schedule. Any team in the SEC West would be undefeated playing Baylor's joke of a schedule. Again, the playoff committee is "not" going to allow teams to back door their way in a cupcakes. Especially from the weak big xii. It would take a major shake up with multiple teams losing down the stretch. And that would open the door for two SEC teams before Baylor.

Edit : left out "not" in committee sentence

 

[LecheMocha]

The thing is, we don't know for sure what the committee will do in the case of a second one loss SEC team. I know this summer that the committee stated they will put a lot more weight into picking conference champions as opposed to non-champions. What gets me is the perception that the media keeps giving that TCU is the best team in the Big 12. Last time I looked Baylor beat TCU and have yet to play Kansas State, which could propel them over TCU in the polls. If both teams win out, Baylor and TCU would share the crown, but Baylor would be declared the official winner of the Big 12 based on their head to head win.

TCU over Baylor is representative of what I have been saying, imo. There will be no more rewards for cupcake scheduling. Baylor's strength of schedule is in the bottom of the entire FCS division. Baylor eliminated themselves before the season even started under playoff committee guidelines. The only teams from the big xii that had a realistic shot was KSU(Auburn), Oklahoma St(FSU), West Virginia(Bama), and Texas(UCLA) and then only if they went undefeated. No other teams have a strong enough OOC SOS to offset the weak big xii conference and it's absence of a championship game. No one is buying that "one true champion" BS propaganda. They better get to 12 teams and have a championship game or face dissolution in the new era. I know they are trying but no one worth anything wants to go to the big xii because of dysfunctional Texas. They are bad partners and the world knows to stay away.

 

[GoSooners]

TCU over Baylor is representative of what I have been saying, imo. There will be no more rewards for cupcake scheduling. Baylor's strength of schedule is in the bottom of the entire FCS division. Baylor eliminated themselves before the season even started under playoff committee guidelines. The only teams from the big xii that had a realistic shot was KSU(Auburn), Oklahoma St(FSU), West Virginia(Bama), and Texas(UCLA) and then only if they went undefeated. No other teams have a strong enough OOC SOS to offset the weak big xii conference and it's absence of a championship game. No one is buying that "one true champion" BS propaganda. They better get to 12 teams and have a championship game or face dissolution in the new era. I know they are trying but no one worth anything wants to go to the big xii because of dysfunctional Texas. They are bad partners and the world knows to stay away.

I agree. And most all of the Big 12 fans do too, including me. I never wanted it at just 10 teams. Not only because of the lack of a championship game, but because it is as hard as hell to make it through a round robin format undefeated. This was USC's problem for many years when they were the Pac-10 playing a round robin format. They almost always lost that one game that eliminated them. You get very few breaks in your schedule when your playing this kind of a format.

 

[groundhog11]

I agree. And most all of the Big 12 fans do too, including me. I never wanted it at just 10 teams. Not only because of the lack of a championship game, but because it is as hard as hell to make it through a round robin format undefeated. This was USC's problem for many years when they were the Pac-10 playing a round robin format. They almost always lost that one game that eliminated them. You get very few breaks in your schedule when your playing this kind of a format.

dont worry ....in a few yrs...acc and big 12 merge....acc will never get a team in again unless fsu go unbeaten every yr....outside of fsu....what team in the future will ever make it? create an east division and wvu moves over to it....

 

[GoSooners]

dont worry ....in a few yrs...acc and big 12 merge....acc will never get a team in again unless fsu go unbeaten every yr....outside of fsu....what team in the future will ever make it? create an east division and wvu moves over to it....

I expect some kind of big conference move to take place. We've got a 4 team playoff for 5 power conferences, which makes no sense to me. I think eventually they'll either have to go to a 6 or 8 team playoff and/or condense to maybe four 16 team power conferences.

 

[LecheMocha]

I agree. And most all of the Big 12 fans do too, including me. I never wanted it at just 10 teams. Not only because of the lack of a championship game, but because it is as hard as hell to make it through a round robin format undefeated. This was USC's problem for many years when they were the Pac-10 playing a round robin format. They almost always lost that one game that eliminated them. You get very few breaks in your schedule when your playing this kind of a format.

I am only seeing one similarity in your comparison. Playing an easy Round Robin in a weak conference like the current big xii is just like the past USC/weak PAC 10 situation. Back then the PAC 10 was weak and trying to ride a cupcake laden schedule to a BCS championship by avoiding a strong ooc schedule. If they played Round Robin then they played a conference bottom dweller(easy win) instead of a ranked ooc opponent. That cowardly way of scheduling worked in the past but that won't work in the new playoff committee era. Now you will have to play quality opponents to get in contention. The big xii is getting left behind unless they change their archaic way of thinking.

 

[tmader7]

I am only seeing one similarity in your comparison. Playing an easy Round Robin in a weak conference like the current big xii is just like the past USC/weak PAC 10 situation. Back then the PAC 10 was weak and trying to ride a cupcake laden schedule to a BCS championship by avoiding a strong ooc schedule. If they played Round Robin then they played a conference bottom dweller(easy win) instead of a ranked ooc opponent. That cowardly way of scheduling worked in the past but that won't work in the new playoff committee era. Now you will have to play quality opponents to get in contention. The big xii is getting left behind unless they change their archaic way of thinking.

I simply don't know what to say to this horseshittery.......Have you even watched TCU play this year, not to mention WVU and Baylor. Left behind my ass, I'll wager any amount you think you can put up idiot, TCU is in.

~T~

 

[GoSooners]

I am only seeing one similarity in your comparison. Playing an easy Round Robin in a weak conference like the current big xii is just like the past USC/weak PAC 10 situation. Back then the PAC 10 was weak and trying to ride a cupcake laden schedule to a BCS championship by avoiding a strong ooc schedule. If they played Round Robin then they played a conference bottom dweller(easy win) instead of a ranked ooc opponent. That cowardly way of scheduling worked in the past but that won't work in the new playoff committee era. Now you will have to play quality opponents to get in contention. The big xii is getting left behind unless they change their archaic way of thinking.

I think the only good team I would call "cowardly" in their scheduling is Baylor. Briles insists on this cupcake schedule and thinks it's their best chance to make a playoff. The only problem with that theory is you can't lose a game or your out. If Baylor hadn't lost to WV I guarantee you they would be in this year's playoff if they went undefeated, no matter how much bitching you do about it. But like I said, with a round robin format it is very difficult to make it through undefeated. Even USC had trouble sometimes beating the weaker opponents in their conference because of the familiarity factor. There are many less breaks in this kind of schedule than other conferences because unlike other conferences, once you get into Big 12 play there are no out of conference cupcake games sprinkled in between the tougher opponents. Every week is big for each team. And you can't avoid anybody in this kind of format.