Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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Psu fans are blind to the facts.it is simple people if an ast coach came to me and told me what he saw there would be no way I'd let Sandusky on campus again. Old Jopa looked the other way simple as that. I don't care if he told the president or not. He knew a boy was raped and let Sandusky come and go as he pleased . I'm sure Psu fans will make more excuses for him
 

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Psu fans are blind to the facts.it is simple people if an ast coach came to me and told me what he saw there would be no way I'd let Sandusky on campus again. Old Jopa looked the other way simple as that. I don't care if he told the president or not. He knew a boy was raped and let Sandusky come and go as he pleased . I'm sure Psu fans will make more excuses for him

Joepa and psu fans are like a cult. You really can't even discuss this with them. Blind as blind can be
 

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You proved nothing. If joe wanted sandusky out...he woulda been out.

It's impossible to talk to paterno and penn st fans about this. The blind loyalty to paterno doesn't allow them to see who he really was. A cowardly nasty man who turned a blind eye to a child rapist. Keep hiding your head in the sand about sandusky raping a kid in the shower and joe knowing about it and still cowardly keeping it hidden. Disgraceful human being.


There was no rape in the shower!!!!!! Do you read English??? Not Guilty No Crime ! nothing

One of the most amazing and vastly underreported pieces of evidence in this case is the fact that the nearly 14 year-old-boy in from the McQueary episode went on the the record several times (after the story broke locally and then again nationally) to fully support Jerry Sandusky and to say that he was never molested by him.

Here is a letter he wrote to the newspaper, defending Jerry !!! http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/default/files/allanmyerslettertoeditor.pdf


I'm in the twilight zone here
 

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Then what did mcqerry see? Did he just make this up? It is not like this was the first time Sandusky had done something like this. He'd been raping kids for yrs. So mcqerry must have just imagined what he saw right? Give us a break!
 
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I'll be honest and non biased. I was surprised to hear of any kind of NCAA sanctions. It's a criminal case. It's not about giving grades or any grade fraud. A criminal case with a guy in his 60's or whatever he is. In what world does that make sense, I am going to punish a 2013 recruit for something that may or may not have happened in the 80's.
 

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The NCAA is a joke. You don't take wins away and give them back. So what has changed? The other Three Blind Mice, the President, AD and VP are going to trial later this year. Why didn't they wait until the trial is over to clear Paterno? Something doesn't smell right. And what's going to happen now, he gets his wins back and his statue will probably be returned next, and they act like nothing ever happened...
 

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There was no rape in the shower!!!!!! Do you read English??? Not Guilty No Crime ! nothing

One of the most amazing and vastly underreported pieces of evidence in this case is the fact that the nearly 14 year-old-boy in from the McQueary episode went on the the record several times (after the story broke locally and then again nationally) to fully support Jerry Sandusky and to say that he was never molested by him.

Here is a letter he wrote to the newspaper, defending Jerry !!! http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/default/files/allanmyerslettertoeditor.pdf


I'm in the twilight zone here

Yes, because abused kids never intitally deny and support their abuser. He has since acknowledged he was abused by sandusky and paterno said to grand jury he understood the behavior in the shower to be "extremely sexual". Seriously, a grip kid....joepa protected a rapist and he could have stopped more kids from being raped but didn't.

Framingpaterno is the most ridiculous and inaccurate web page of all time
 

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The NCAA is a joke. You don't take wins away and give them back. So what has changed? The other Three Blind Mice, the President, AD and VP are going to trial later this year. Why didn't they wait until the trial is over to clear Paterno? Something doesn't smell right. And what's going to happen now, he gets his wins back and his statue will probably be returned next, and they act like nothing ever happened...

Ncaa trying to avoid the lawsuit....if that staue is returned and they somehow try to vindicate the rape protector...it would be disgraceful.
 

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Ncaa trying to avoid the lawsuit....if that staue is returned and they somehow try to vindicate the rape protector...it would be disgraceful.
I could be wrong, but I doubt they would follow through with a lawsuit. The NCAA is a membership organization, although membership is virtually required if you wish to play football. But, a membership organization has the ability to define the offenses and punishments in that organization. The NCAA has the authority and responsibility. There is an anti-trust argument, but I seriously wonder if anybody wants to defend Paterno on the basis of anti-trust laws for hiding a child abuse crime for years. It would take a jury of Penn State alumni to rule against the NCAA in a suit. It seems to me this would be the last thing they would want. They would probably soon this whole thing disappears as quickly as possible.
 

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Ncaa trying to avoid the lawsuit....if that staue is returned and they somehow try to vindicate the rape protector...it would be disgraceful.

Vit, this thing stinks and always has stunk. The NCAA has already returned scholarships, reinstated bowl eligibility and wins. They are admitting they were wrong.
 

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facts mean nothing to you

OF course the story changed when PSU fired JOE and announced, here, come get the money. Then he takes the money, never to be heard from again, yet that is one allegation where Jerry was found innocent of a crime?

Let me repeat, if there was a rape in the shower, and Jerry was getting nailed on every other allegation under the sun, how could he have Been found NOT guilty of that charge?
 

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facts mean nothing to you

OF course the story changed when PSU fired JOE and announced, here, come get the money. Then he takes the money, never to be heard from again, yet that is one allegation where Jerry was found innocent of a crime?

Let me repeat, if there was a rape in the shower, and Jerry was getting nailed on every other allegation under the sun, how could he have Been found NOT guilty of that charge?
Never did answer the question what mcwuerry saw? Has he admitted he must of confused a rape to being horseplay? I don't think so? You are comical. I want to here mcquerry say he is a complete idiot and got rape and horseplay confused. You know the real answer don't you? Or maybe you to are a person that could confuse a boy in a shower being raped with just some friendly horseplay
 
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LOL at naked "horseplay" between grandpa Sandusky and a 12 year old. Seriously, that is "Everfresh" weird no matter how you tell it.
 

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Who wants 10k ?


I am offering you $10K if you can answer this simple question: please identity ONE person who ever testified that they were sexually abused by Sandusky and who anyone at Penn State had any knowledge of.

JOHN Z
 

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Who wants 10k ?


I am offering you $10K if you can answer this simple question: please identity ONE person who ever testified that they were sexually abused by Sandusky and who anyone at Penn State had any knowledge of.

JOHN Z

You never answered my question. Who are you to ask that guy about the alleged rape in the shower?
 

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facts mean nothing to you

OF course the story changed when PSU fired JOE and announced, here, come get the money. Then he takes the money, never to be heard from again, yet that is one allegation where Jerry was found innocent of a crime?

Let me repeat, if there was a rape in the shower, and Jerry was getting nailed on every other allegation under the sun, how could he have Been found NOT guilty of that charge?

FACT: Paterno testified McQueary told him he saw Sandusky fondling a young boy in a "sexual nature" after hours in the football locker room showers.

FACT: Paterno knew Sandusky was hanging out with young boys in the football locker room after hours regardless of what the boy says happened today. Sorry, that is just plain wrong. No grown ass man should be solo in the football locker room after hours with a 12 year old boy, punto. Paterno was the head of the football program and godlike on campus. If he wanted Sandusky banned from the football locker rooms tomorrow he could have made it happen. Anything else is bullshit. Are you telling me Saban, Urb or Stoops do not have the power to kick a former assistant out of their football building? I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale if you believe that. He most likely did not ban him because that would have raised some reporters suspicion. Hey, why is Sandusky no longer hanging around campus?

FACT: McQueary was only a grad asst at that time in 2001 and was later promoted and given a very lucrative salary several years later. Now, tell me if this makes any sense whatsoever in any organization. Essentially an intern reports to the CEO of the organization he sees a former VP who has access to the company gym fondling a teenage boy in the company's locker room. Now you either believe the intern and ban the former VP from the building forever or you believe your former VP and let the intern go after his time is up, right? Who the fuck keeps the intern and promotes the intern and still allows the VP to use the company locker room? Either the intern is a great and truthful employee the organization wants to keep or he is making a horrible lie against a legendary former employee and you let him go. You do not do both!

And stop with the "they never would have prosecuted Paterno" shit. I agree, they probably would not have but that does not make him a decent human being. Besides, who the fuck ever prosecutes dead people? What good does it do the prosecution to say they would have prosecuted Paterno after he is dead. Nothing.
 

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FACT: Paterno testified McQueary told him he saw Sandusky fondling a young boy in a "sexual nature" after hours in the football locker room showers.

FACT: Paterno knew Sandusky was hanging out with young boys in the football locker room after hours regardless of what the boy says happened today. Sorry, that is just plain wrong. No grown ass man should be solo in the football locker room after hours with a 12 year old boy, punto. Paterno was the head of the football program and godlike on campus. If he wanted Sandusky banned from the football locker rooms tomorrow he could have made it happen. Anything else is bullshit. Are you telling me Saban, Urb or Stoops do not have the power to kick a former assistant out of their football building? I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale if you believe that. He most likely did not ban him because that would have raised some reporters suspicion. Hey, why is Sandusky no longer hanging around campus?

FACT: McQueary was only a grad asst at that time in 2001 and was later promoted and given a very lucrative salary several years later. Now, tell me if this makes any sense whatsoever in any organization. Essentially an intern reports to the CEO of the organization he sees a former VP who has access to the company gym fondling a teenage boy in the company's locker room. Now you either believe the intern and ban the former VP from the building forever or you believe your former VP and let the intern go after his time is up, right? Who the fuck keeps the intern and promotes the intern and still allows the VP to use the company locker room? Either the intern is a great and truthful employee the organization wants to keep or he is making a horrible lie against a legendary former employee and you let him go. You do not do both!

And stop with the "they never would have prosecuted Paterno" shit. I agree, they probably would not have but that does not make him a decent human being. Besides, who the fuck ever prosecutes dead people? What good does it do the prosecution to say they would have prosecuted Paterno after he is dead. Nothing.

Not a fact at all unless you care to prove it.

And don't agree with you at all. A lot of men act as "big brothers" for kids without parents or shaky home life. Take them to fitness centers, gyms, parks all sorts of places. The kid was 12 meaning he was in 7th grade. He's not a young kid at all.
 

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Sorry Enfuego, a 12-year old is still a boy.
 

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Sorry Enfuego, a 12-year old is still a boy.

Trust me, I know. What does that have to do with a man engaged with the boy in after-school activities? Happens everyday in America.

I mean, let's say a DI football player befriended a kid with a rough upbringing. He takes the kid to the university and they shoot hoops, lift weights or whatever. Is that considered strange?
 

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