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I can't speak for anyone else, but I in no way diminish the seriousness of mental illness or the sadness that someone would ever think taking their own life is a viable option. As many others here, I have had people close to me fight depression, addiction, and many different forms of mental illness. I have even had a close family friend resort to suicide as I mentioned earlier in this thread.

Please understand my position as it is very clear. I believe suicide is by its nature a selfish act. My belief in that stems from how suicide destroys the lives of those that are left behind. I have seen this first hand. Because I believe that does not mean I feel no empathy towards those who commit the tragic act. I harbor no ill will for you calling me a "fucking nitwit" or whatever else because I understand these sensitive matters can bring out many emotions if people don't see eye to eye.

so you like to see people suffer?
 

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How is it selfish? Selfish is having children, then leaving to avoid responsibility. His kids are all grown up with trust funds. The man had a chemical imbalance for Christ sake.

Many people have chemical imbalances. And who cares how old the kids are. Doing that to your family is selfish.
 

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Or here's a new topic to discuss nine pages. Michael Johns passed away on August first. You ask who the heck is that? Google it if you don't know. He was not so lucky to survive like I did back on July 12th 2013.
For months I kept telling my doctor something is wrong with my ankle. It's always purple and swollen and painfull. Never gave me anything for it. When I went to bed July 11th that night. Woke up just a couple hours later. And I knew something was wrong! I called 911
All I knew then it was the worst pain ever and my left leg was twice the size as my right!
Back than I didn't even know what a blood clot was. I never thought about it until it happened to me. And now Michael Johns is gone because his doctor did not even know the signs of a blood clot! He went to the Dr. the day before he died complaining of a swollen ankle
and a lot of pain! If MJ would have gone straight to the hospital instead of seeing his doctor he would be alive today!

Well I was one of the lucky ones to survive. I've been on Warafin for 15 months now since my near death experience. And haven't felt better. So if you don't know what the signs of a blood clot are or the systems. I urge you to look it up. It may save your life. I was lucky.
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My fathers friend/ old boss blew his head off with a .38. He had over 35 mil in the bank. Was the most unselfish person ever. He had depression and stop taking his meds. How is that selfish?
 

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JC and I come from opposite sides of this forum. Why is there so much hate for the guy?

Nah no hate at all. Maybe 2 or 3 posters have some negative things to say about me but that is no reason for me not to respect them. In my eyes every poster on this forum brings value of some kind. Even the ones (and maybe especially the ones) who we always seem to disagree with.
 

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My fathers friend/ old boss blew his head off with a .38. He had over 35 mil in the bank. Was the most unselfish person ever. He had depression and stop taking his meds. How is that selfish?

Shub, you realize it is OK for everyone not to agree right?

I can see your viewpoint and you make some valid arguments. However there are certainly valid arguments to be made on the other side too. Would you not agree with that? That maybe someone could make the case that suicide is selfish?
 

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Shub, you realize it is OK for everyone not to agree right?

I can see your viewpoint and you make some valid arguments. However there are certainly valid arguments to be made on the other side too.

Is it ok to continuously lie?
 

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Nah no hate at all. Maybe 2 or 3 posters have some negative things to say about me but that is no reason for me not to respect them. In my eyes every poster on this forum brings value of some kind. Even the ones (and maybe especially the ones) who we always seem to disagree with.


I wanna see you get more aggressive towards other posters. Like GoBlue saying you said you had a kid, you clearly didn't. Why tell him he is a good poster? Tell him get his eyes checked and learn how to read if he is gonna obsess and remember details of your personal life.

Just think you gotta go full fledged heel
 

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I wanna see you get more aggressive towards other posters. Like GoBlue saying you said you had a kid, you clearly didn't. Why tell him he is a good poster? Tell him get his eyes checked and learn how to read if he is gonna obsess and remember details of your personal life.

Just think you gotta go full fledged heel

IMO you are just contributing to the problem if I was to respond that way. Also, I genuinely believe that even though GoBlue might say something not so smart like that, that he still has something to contribute to this place.

May sound corny but I was raised under the golden rule of treat others like you want to be treated. I think in the long run that's the best bet. Works for me in my personal life I can attest to that.
 

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I wanna see you get more aggressive towards other posters. Like GoBlue saying you said you had a kid, you clearly didn't. Why tell him he is a good poster? Tell him get his eyes checked and learn how to read if he is gonna obsess and remember details of your personal life.

Just think you gotta go full fledged heel

He doesn't think I'm a good poster. I did read that wrong, I took it to mean he already had a kid (maybe he did, maybe he didn't). But I gotta admit I could be wrong on what he meant.

I have no problem with a poster saying something than standing behind it. JC is not one of those people. He has been asked probably a dozen times about how stupid his insurance claim was and how he doesn't know that suicide is covered either way (not to mention the fact Williams is worth a lot outside of that) yet just ignores the questions and this coming from someone who says they do this for a living.

He does that all the time. He changed a lot but can't change who you really are and he spouts so much nonsense and lies, ah well. Just keep on keeping on JC
 
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JC states why would he lie about being married? Not fucking 10's all day everyday? Same reason he all of a sudden became a class act and will not insult no one (months ago he would go roid crazy insulting and else, but he was raised with the golden rule of blah blah BS) ; he is portraying the role of a responsible likable middle aged guy, with discipline, money management and just a balanced life.

Why do this? Well my guess is to pull a Jaguara on someone stupid enough to lend him money or get him a credit account or else... He is being very patient about it but that's how ghosts work.

His narrative is just so full of shit I couldn't fathom to believe him.
 

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Or here's a new topic to discuss nine pages. Michael Johns passed away on August first. You ask who the heck is that? Google it if you don't know. He was not so lucky to survive like I did back on July 12th 2013.
For months I kept telling my doctor something is wrong with my ankle. It's always purple and swollen and painfull. Never gave me anything for it. When I went to bed July 11th that night. Woke up just a couple hours later. And I knew something was wrong! I called 911
All I knew then it was the worst pain ever and my left leg was twice the size as my right!
Back than I didn't even know what a blood clot was. I never thought about it until it happened to me. And now Michael Johns is gone because his doctor did not even know the signs of a blood clot! He went to the Dr. the day before he died complaining of a swollen ankle
and a lot of pain! If MJ would have gone straight to the hospital instead of seeing his doctor he would be alive today!

Well I was one of the lucky ones to survive. I've been on Warafin for 15 months now since my near death experience. And haven't felt better. So if you don't know what the signs of a blood clot are or the systems. I urge you to look it up. It may save your life. I was lucky.
:sad3:
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JC states why would he lie about being married? Not fucking 10's all day everyday? Same reason he all of a sudden became a class act and will not insult no one (months ago he would go roid crazy insulting and else, but he was raised with the golden rule of blah blah BS) ; he is portraying the role of a responsible likable middle aged guy, with discipline, money management and just a balanced life.

Why do this? Well my guess is to pull a Jaguara on someone stupid enough to lend him money or get him a credit account or else... He is being very patient about it but that's how ghosts work.

His narrative is just so full of shit I couldn't fathom to believe him.

As always pocket you're entitled to your opinion.

But could you please cite some examples where I "went roid crazy with insults." I really want to know what gave you that belief. Because I promise you if you look hard you may find a few (VERY FEW) times when I DEFENDED myself by insulting others. For the large part, 99% of the time, I do not attack a poster that attacks me for the reasons I have stated before.


On an unrelated note, do you think you could lend me some money?
 

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Serious question JC, why do you think so many on here loathe you or least have disdain towards you?

I honestly don't believe that to be true at all.

First, I don't anyone really "loathes" someone on here. We all share the increasingly rare, frowned upon by the rest of society, hobby of sports gambling. No reason to hate anyone on here.

Second, I think the negative/attacking type comments stand out so that's what you see. 95% of my time on here is spent just as normally as any other poster.
 
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As always pocket you're entitled to your opinion.

But could you please cite some examples where I "went roid crazy with insults." I really want to know what gave you that belief. Because I promise you if you look hard you may find a few (VERY FEW) times when I DEFENDED myself by insulting others. For the large part, 99% of the time, I do not attack a poster that attacks me for the reasons I have stated before.


On an unrelated note, do you think you could lend me some money?

Of course I'm entitled to my opinion, been part of this forum since 2006 and worked in the offshore since 2004. I don't need you clarifying that.

Is shit like that that hits my nerves with most of your posts. All your political correctness is BS as more than once you have been a proven liar, maybe we can ask 5TP to bring some of your old threads back, hell I'll do it. I'm not a bully, stupid people don't need to be bullied for others to realize but, I think is fair all posters are clear they have to read your BS with a grain of salt.

I said USED TO AS IN MONTHS AGO, it seems marriage has mellowed you out, sight.
 

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Of course I'm entitled to my opinion, been part of this forum since 2006 and worked in the offshore since 2004. I don't need you clarifying that.

my bad dude that must have came off wrong. When I say that I just mean that I actually read your post and take your opinion under consideration before responding. Seems to me a lot of people only want to speak instead of listen first, then speak. Not necessarily only on the forum, just in general.

Also, you say my political correctness gets on your nerves right? I said in this thread that I believe suicide to be selfish. Nothing politically correct about that.
 

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