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"I used to think the worst thing in life was to end up all alone, its not.....The worst thing in life is to end up with people that make you feel alone."

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One thing you never really see touched on is why men are so much more susceptible to addiction, depression and drastic behavior associated with those diseases but men are considered to be the more practical and levelheaded of the genders, while women are more emotional...

I dunno just came to mind as I read the thread

I was told once it's because men are susceptible to a much more addictive behavior than women.
 

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women get abused, hit, raped and discriminated against far, far more than men. The negative memories/thoughts that lead to depression would seem to be more prevalent in them I would think.

Maybe men being more susceptible has to do with their aggressive nature? They deal with these negative issues with more aggression/action and outward displays.

Still an interesting subject because as far as genetic makeup goes I don't think men are anymore predisposed to mental illness than women are, but I could be wrong.
 

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im already tired of hearing about this. why doesnt the lauren bacall thread have 9 pages? she was a hollywood icon as well. oh yeah, thats right because she didnt "chicken out". stop glorifying this. sure rw was great and all but why do i have to explain to my kids every night why this is postered all over the evening news? there thats my 2 cent contribution. fire away...
 

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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/12/fox...rd/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Fox News’ Shep Smith: Robin Williams was “such a coward”


wow, just wow

you see, some people take things out of context and only want to be argumentative. i believe that in this quote that there was also reference to rw's children and how they must feel to have lost their father? very sad situation whichever side you choose to be on. it still doesnt distort the fact that this man only considered his own feelings, imo of course.
 

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im already tired of hearing about this. why doesnt the lauren bacall thread have 9 pages? she was a hollywood icon as well. oh yeah, thats right because she didnt "chicken out". stop glorifying this. sure rw was great and all but why do i have to explain to my kids every night why this is postered all over the evening news? there thats my 2 cent contribution. fire away...

Disrespectful.
 

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To feel real empathy, you have to have suffered. For those that feel judgment instead of empathy for someone that dies by suicide, they better hope that their life doesn't turn rough, because they will be unequipped to handle it. I think that most people that commit suicide battle and fight for a long time, and that takes strength and courage. I don't think suicide is ever the right answer, but for those that get to the end of their rope and get exhausted, everyone should extend grace and be thankful that they didn't have to go through whatever drove that person to take their own life. I've gone through some difficult stuff in my life, and suffering can be a gift because it truly does give you compassion. But I remember even as a young child hearing about suicides, and the only thing that came to my mind was sadness for what the person must have been going through. The good thing is that the only judgment that means anything is that of God, and not that of any self-righteous imbicles.
 

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Good read

I am a survivor of suicide.


I don't talk about it a lot these days, as I've reached the point where it feels like a lifetime ago. Healing was a long and grief-stricken process. There were times when I felt very alone in my grief and there were times when I felt lost and confused. The trouble with suicide is that no one knows what to say. No one knows how to react. So they smile and wave and attempt distraction... but they never ever say the word. The survivors, it seems, are often left to survive on their own.


I experienced endless waves of emotion in the days, weeks, months and even years following the loss of my father. The "what ifs" kept me up at night, causing me to float through each day in a state of perpetual exhaustion. What if I had answered the phone that night? Would the sound of my voice have changed his mind? Would he have done it at a later date, anyway? Survivor's guilt, indeed.






Sometimes, I cried. Sometimes, I sat perfectly still watching the waves crash down on Main Beach, hoping for a sign of some kind that he had reached a better place. Sometimes, I silently scolded myself for not seeing the warning signs. Sometimes, I bargained with God or anyone else who might be in charge up there. Bring him back to us. Please, just bring him back.Sometimes I felt angry. Why us? Why me? Why him?


Yes, I experienced a range of emotions before making peace with the loss. But one thought that never ever (not even for one second) crossed my mind was this ill-informed opinion that suicide is selfish. Suicide is a lot of things, but selfish isn't one of them.


Suicide is a decision made out of desperation, hopelessness, isolation and loneliness. The black hole that is clinical depression is all-consuming. Feeling like a burden to loved ones, feeling like there is no way out, feeling trapped and feeling isolated are all common among people who suffer from depression.


People who say that suicide is selfish always reference the survivors. It's selfish to leave children, spouses and other family members behind, so they say. They're not thinking about the survivors, or so they would have us believe. What they don't know is that those very loved ones are the reason many people hang on for just one more day. They do think about the survivors, probably up until the very last moment in many cases. But the soul-crushing depression that envelops them leaves them feeling like there is no alternative. Like the only way to get out is to opt out. And that is a devastating thought to endure.


Until you've stared down that level of depression, until you've lost your soul to a sea of emptiness and darkness... you don't get to make those judgments. You might not understand it, and you are certainly entitled to your own feelings, but making those judgments and spreading that kind of negativity won't help the next person. In fact, it will only hurt others.


As the world mourns the loss of Robin Williams, people everywhere are left feeling helpless and confused. How could someone who appeared so happy in actuality be so very depressed? The truth is that many, many people face the very same struggle each and every day. Some will commit suicide. Some will attempt. And some will hang on for dear life. Most won't be able to ask for the help that they need to overcome their mental illness.


Check in on friends struggling with depression. Even if they don't answer the phone or come to the door, make an effort to let them know that you are there. Friendship isn't about saving lost souls; friendship is about listening and being present.


Reach out to survivors of suicide. Practice using the words "suicide" and "depression" so that they roll off the tongue as easily as "unicorns" and "bubble gum." Listen as they tell their stories. Hold their hands. Be kind with their hearts. And hug them every single time.


30,000 peoplecommit suicide in the United States each year. 750,000 people attempt suicide. It's time to raise awareness, increase empathy and kindness, and bring those numbers down.

glad you came out on the other side, stevie.
 

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Depression is one of the worst illnesses a human being can have during their life here on earth......

Psychiatrists/Doctors don't have a cure for it & they hand out antidepressants like candy to try & make you feel better, all the whole you're a guniea pig for many years trying to get something g to work out for you while your brain is being rewired & with the garbage they're scripting you ate making people very suicidal......

I know there are people that need antidepressants/bipolar meds but I'm totally against them because they can make you way worse than when you walked into the office.

The doctors IMO dont know jack about how to cure the different mental illnesses out there.......its literally like playing Russian roulette whether youre on these meds or not with some mental illnesses & then throw stimulants/MDMA into the mix & it doesn't end well.

Excess of illegal drugs mixed in with antidepressants trying to fight off depression, etc.....is a very bad combination.

Bottom line, there are ways to fight depression, but its a long lifetime battle & some get tired of fighting & just give up......sad, very sad!

every human is different…i've never considered suicide an option, but when i'm not on medication i go through periods of time where i'm a different person and toxic to be around. meds level me, but you can't stop taking these things abruptly.
 

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you see, some people take things out of context and only want to be argumentative. i believe that in this quote that there was also reference to rw's children and how they must feel to have lost their father? very sad situation whichever side you choose to be on. it still doesnt distort the fact that this man only considered his own feelings, imo of course.

everyone's father dies. logic?
 
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Drpugilist, the reason WHY this thread has more pages is because people like you diminish the fact that depression is HARSH ILLNESS that needs to be treated constantly, so we have people calling victims of suicide by depression "cowards" vs the people that actually have studied the disease and seen it close.
 
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glad you came out on the other side, stevie.

Likewise, Stevie.

And there's wisdom in those words, ZJP. The "other side" will always come. It may take years but it will come if you fight your demons to reach that day. Believing in God and trusting that His help will come is a huge help for believers.
 

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why? and, i havent seen your comments of concern in the other celebrity thread who recently passed

My comments of concern for Lauren Bacall? She was an old lady that lived a full life and passed away like all of us eventually will.

I mean dude, you said RW "chickened out." You don't know shit about his life or what he was going through. Just let the guy rest in peace. What an asshole.
 

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A special thanks in this thread to Akphidelt and Justin Cruise. Thank you for allowing others to eloquently comment on your stupidity while failing to address the reality of a serious issue. I love how those that say suicide is a cowardly behavior and that those individuals calling it out as cowardly would never succumb to such behavior.

Well, you fucking nitwits, there are more than 7 billion people in this world and since you are able to fully understand what makes each individual tick and why they have chosen this path, I kindly as that you stop wasting your time posting on this website and please help out at many mental health clinics around the world, as possible. I mean you have all been able to make breakthroughs that trained doctors and specialists have been unable to achieve for centuries, I am just grateful for you to grace us with your knowledge, prior to the rest of the world learning that suicide is strictly the behavior of a coward, despite the fact that someone maybe suffering from the PTSD, survivor's guilty, terminal disease that causes immense daily pain, like ALS or a host of other issues.
 

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My comments of concern for Lauren Bacall? She was an old lady that lived a full life and passed away like all of us eventually will.

I mean dude, you said RW "chickened out." You don't know shit about his life or what he was going through. Just let the guy rest in peace. What an asshole.

first i dont know why you feel the need to resort to name calling. thats always a good way to get someone to keep an open mind during any discussion...
anyway, my point is enfuego that obviously he had some problems. mental, physical or whatever. i wish that he, and anyone else that my be contemplating suicide, would have gotten treatment. if he was getting treatment (i dont know) and it wasnt working, its still not a reason to "give up" on life and i could never imagine doing so for my kids and familys sake. now, ive never had any mental illness or clinically diagnosed depression but i have a couple of family members that have been diagnosed as bi polar. i understand than when their meds are "off" they do some very radical things. i do believe that suicide is a choice that was made and i do believe that it is a sin. im sorry if you disagree. take care and please dont call me names.
 

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