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Another aspect that makes it selfish.

Imagine how much life insurance he had for his family that they will now never get because he voided the contract by killing himself

he said this in the thread so pretty sure whatever scorn he has received is deserved

although I do agree if someone else said it they wouldn't get as much shit...
 

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Or here's a new topic to discuss nine pages. Michael Johns passed away on August first. You ask who the heck is that? Google it if you don't know. He was not so lucky to survive like I did back on July 12th 2013.
For months I kept telling my doctor something is wrong with my ankle. It's always purple and swollen and painfull. Never gave me anything for it. When I went to bed July 11th that night. Woke up just a couple hours later. And I knew something was wrong! I called 911
All I knew then it was the worst pain ever and my left leg was twice the size as my right!
Back than I didn't even know what a blood clot was. I never thought about it until it happened to me. And now Michael Johns is gone because his doctor did not even know the signs of a blood clot! He went to the Dr. the day before he died complaining of a swollen ankle
and a lot of pain! If MJ would have gone straight to the hospital instead of seeing his doctor he would be alive today!

Well I was one of the lucky ones to survive. I've been on Warafin for 15 months now since my near death experience. And haven't felt better. So if you don't know what the signs of a blood clot are or the systems. I urge you to look it up. It may save your life. I was lucky.
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The main thing that always pissed me off about Justin cruise in the past was not his stupid opinions.
It was because he had this know it all attitude and basically always told everyone they were idiots if they did not agree with him.

Although I do not agree with a single thing JC has said in this thread regarding the subject of suicide.

JC has been very respectful to everyone in this thread.
I don't think he has called a single person a name or talked down to them one time

Irregardless if this is an act or not I choose to respect him for that until he proves otherwise.

JC has been called a lot of names in this thread and he has kept his cool.

JC is still paying for his sins of the past. It won't go away overnight but I just want to say jc has handled himself well in this thread.

And that has nothing to do with my opinion of his opinion of the subject matter of this thread.
The guy is a cartoon character, similar to JJ Gold, just a different personality. Could he be Journeyman the bodybuilder that won't show up at a bash? Perhaps. I think it's funny that he keeps posting and posting in this thread and ignoring the question about life insurance. Clown like Bozo.
 
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The guy is a cartoon character, similar to JJ Gold, just a different personality. Could he be Journeyman the bodybuilder that won't show up at a bash? Perhaps. I think it's funny that he keeps posting and posting in this thread and ignoring the question about life insurance. Clown like Bozo.

I agree that Justin has been more respectful as of late, but I do find it very interesting that he's been asked some very basic financial/insurance related questions that he refuses to answer - even though he claimed to be some bigwig financial manager when he first showed up in here.
 
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Back to the Robin Williams issue:

I feel strongly that as a society we make a serious and grave mistake when we (maybe in subtle ways) glorify suicide. The Academy of Motion Picture and Sciences today tweeted a picture of Robin Williams from Aladdin, where he was the genie, and Aladdin lets him out of the bottle and says "You're free Genie."

To somehow insinuate the killing oneself is liberating is irresponsible and dangerous, especially to vulnerable young people who might be considering it.

The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention worries about the subliminal message. Christine Moutier, chief medical officer at the AFSP, expressed concern about the tweet, telling the Washington Post Tuesday, “Suicide should never be presented as an option,” before adding, “(it) presents suicide in too celebratory a light.”

There needs to be a societal stigma when it comes to suicide, and we shouldn't paint it as a liberating option.
 

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Likewise, Stevie.

And there's wisdom in those words, ZJP. The "other side" will always come. It may take years but it will come if you fight your demons to reach that day. Believing in God and trusting that His help will come is a huge help for believers.

i personally don't believe, but that is another issue. i do appreciate your kind words, though.
 

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Back to the Robin Williams issue:

I feel strongly that as a society we make a serious and grave mistake when we (maybe in subtle ways) glorify suicide. The Academy of Motion Picture and Sciences today tweeted a picture of Robin Williams from Aladdin, where he was the genie, and Aladdin lets him out of the bottle and says "You're free Genie."

To somehow insinuate the killing oneself is liberating is irresponsible and dangerous, especially to vulnerable young people who might be considering it.

The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention worries about the subliminal message. Christine Moutier, chief medical officer at the AFSP, expressed concern about the tweet, telling the Washington Post Tuesday, “Suicide should never be presented as an option,” before adding, “(it) presents suicide in too celebratory a light.”

There needs to be a societal stigma when it comes to suicide, and we shouldn't paint it as a liberating option.


It's already a stigma. Williams was in a state of deep depression. Nobody should hold it against him and if anyone does it should be his family. Who knows how long Williams held out on wanting to kill himself. Maybe it's something he's contemplated for decades.
 

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We look at it from the suffering of the family and kids. There is no doubt about it that this is a selfish and cowardly act. Has nothing to do with diminishing the seriousness of depression or mental illnesses. What RW did was selfish and cowardly. No doubt about it.

what'd he have to gain by being "selfish"
 

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Or here's a new topic to discuss nine pages. Michael Johns passed away on August first. You ask who the heck is that? Google it if you don't know. He was not so lucky to survive like I did back on July 12th 2013.
For months I kept telling my doctor something is wrong with my ankle. It's always purple and swollen and painfull. Never gave me anything for it. When I went to bed July 11th that night. Woke up just a couple hours later. And I knew something was wrong! I called 911
All I knew then it was the worst pain ever and my left leg was twice the size as my right!
Back than I didn't even know what a blood clot was. I never thought about it until it happened to me. And now Michael Johns is gone because his doctor did not even know the signs of a blood clot! He went to the Dr. the day before he died complaining of a swollen ankle
and a lot of pain! If MJ would have gone straight to the hospital instead of seeing his doctor he would be alive today!

Well I was one of the lucky ones to survive. I've been on Warafin for 15 months now since my near death experience. And haven't felt better. So if you don't know what the signs of a blood clot are or the systems. I urge you to look it up. It may save your life. I was lucky.
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glad you caught it, i just sent a patient off to the ER with the same thing about a month ago. but…what is the relevance here?
 

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are antidepressants really effective?

I don't believe they are & of course nothing is 100% effective but I've seen many peoples lives get worse on these meds (people with light to mediocre depression) as I have seen some peoples lives get better (bipolar & severe schizo)......

How do we judge who needs them? Doctors/psychiatrists give them out like candy in hopes you need them, whether or not you get better isn't the main question, its all about making these pharm companies billions of dollars.

If these meds are working, why are these people attempting suicide?

I'm just glad I don't need these meds & I tell others that are depressed to find another route because there is no reason to take antidepressants for depression & continue to be depressed.......

mine are. again, no two genetic make-ups are alike. they work for some, others they don't.
 

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mine are. again, no two genetic make-ups are alike. they work for some, others they don't.



I saw you state this before & yes, they only work for some because of each persons unique body chemistry.......

If that's the case, why are they handing them out like they are the cure all?

They hand them out like candy to every Jane, Dick & Harry that walks thru the door.

You have anxiety, here's prozac......if you show or you answer that you have any for of depression, or are depressed cause something minor happened in your life like you lost $500 betting on a game, here's some prozac.....

They are way out of control handing out these meds.
 

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I saw you state this before & yes, they only work for some because of each persons unique body chemistry.......

If that's the case, why are they handing them out like they are the cure all?

They hand them out like candy to every Jane, Dick & Harry that walks thru the door.

You have anxiety, here's prozac......if you show or you answer that you have any for of depression, or are depressed cause something minor happened in your life like you lost $500 betting on a game, here's some prozac.....

They are way out of control handing out these meds.

i don't disagree with you at all. medication is out of control, period. doc writes a script, doc gets paid. it's that simple. most medications aren't warranted but md's are too lazy to complete a full and thorough exam, they want to send you off with a prescription and get paid for it.
 

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Back to the Robin Williams issue:

I feel strongly that as a society we make a serious and grave mistake when we (maybe in subtle ways) glorify suicide. The Academy of Motion Picture and Sciences today tweeted a picture of Robin Williams from Aladdin, where he was the genie, and Aladdin lets him out of the bottle and says "You're free Genie."

To somehow insinuate the killing oneself is liberating is irresponsible and dangerous, especially to vulnerable young people who might be considering it.

The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention worries about the subliminal message. Christine Moutier, chief medical officer at the AFSP, expressed concern about the tweet, telling the Washington Post Tuesday, “Suicide should never be presented as an option,” before adding, “(it) presents suicide in too celebratory a light.”

There needs to be a societal stigma when it comes to suicide, and we shouldn't paint it as a liberating option.

this is what i was trying to say in my earlier post. thanks for putting it better than i could. my thoughts exactly. now, as someone mentioned earlier, i guess i could change the channel but what about those who dont and their kids see this suicide being glorified. or if my kid is at a friends house, or they show and discuss it in school, or its on the news while he is in his room or sportscenter or every other channel on tv? again, shouldnt be discussed so much (glorified). im sure 20/20 or dateline will run a 2 hr special on rw tonight or tmrw night though so we can see more of it....
 

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Back to the Robin Williams issue:

I feel strongly that as a society we make a serious and grave mistake when we (maybe in subtle ways) glorify suicide. The Academy of Motion Picture and Sciences today tweeted a picture of Robin Williams from Aladdin, where he was the genie, and Aladdin lets him out of the bottle and says "You're free Genie."

To somehow insinuate the killing oneself is liberating is irresponsible and dangerous, especially to vulnerable young people who might be considering it.

The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention worries about the subliminal message. Christine Moutier, chief medical officer at the AFSP, expressed concern about the tweet, telling the Washington Post Tuesday, “Suicide should never be presented as an option,” before adding, “(it) presents suicide in too celebratory a light.”

There needs to be a societal stigma when it comes to suicide, and we shouldn't paint it as a liberating option.

The only reason you feel this way is because your religion TOLD you suicide is a sin.

Of course the end of immeasurable suffering is freeing.
 
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The only reason you feel this way is because your religion TOLD you suicide is a sin.

Of course the end of immeasurable suffering is freeing.


Bzzzt. I would feel the same way if I wasn't a Christian. I would say the exact same thing that the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention said, and they are by no means a religious organization.


The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention worries about the subliminal message. Christine Moutier, chief medical officer at the AFSP, expressed concern about the tweet, telling the Washington Post Tuesday, “Suicide should never be presented as an option,” before adding, “(it) presents suicide in too celebratory a light.”
 

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Is JC the same JC that stiffed everyone when double you sects shut down last year?

No, AFAIK JC has never stiffed anyone. Don't think he even bets other posters or anything....

Also that is a little strong of a message that hanging yourself is somehow "freeing" even though if I had Parkinsons I'd likely rather be dead too....Nothing liberating about choking yourself to death...
 

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JC went from claiming IU was unbeatable to blaming Obama for him not being employed to him getting hired by a company because of his uncle to then leaving the company 2 weeks later for his 'dream job' which he said he already had to getting married to buying an expensive home to now loving every poster at the rx

this dude's life trajectory is off the charts. the rest of us are doing nothing with our lives
It's a movie with a lot of holes in the plot. The guy wrote as he went, and lost track of the lies.
 

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