Prosecutor: Grant jury to weigh charges in Georgia shooting

[KennyB]

I keep saying wait for the facts but the media and Mob have convicted the father and son for murder and federal hate crimes. Worst case for the father and son will be manslaughter and if the DA goes for murder without giving the jury the possibility to convict on a manslaughter charge they will walk. I dont profess to be an authority on Georgia criminal procedure but I am a lawyer in Florida whose father was a Judge for 20 years so I certainly know criminal law.

 

[exploited17]

Why? They have all the evidence. What evidence would support a hate crime charge?
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/n...0200511-5wq42ruyvvbo5b7xb4ztsjhpvq-story.html

 

[Seymour]

I keep saying wait for the facts but the media and Mob have convicted the father and son for murder and federal hate crimes. Worst case for the father and son will be manslaughter and if the DA goes for murder without giving the jury the possibility to convict on a manslaughter charge they will walk. I dont profess to be an authority on Georgia criminal procedure but I am a lawyer in Florida whose father was a Judge for 20 years so I certainly know criminal law.

I believe I read they are coming up with the murder charge through felony murder - eliminating the intent aspect - saying following/chasing him/trying to detain him with a gun was a felony and then no matter how he died they are on the hook for murder

 

[festeringZit]

I love how the MSM pushes the narrative that this thug was just out for a leisurely jog, and dumb fucks like MobSheeper follow along like puppets.

 

[exploited17]

I believe I read they are coming up with the murder charge through felony murder - eliminating the intent aspect - saying following/chasing him/trying to detain him with a gun was a felony and then no matter how he died they are on the hook for murder

Sounds like a made up law to convict them

 

[Seymour]

Sounds like a made up law to convict them

It's well rooted in common law and I would imagine every state has adopted it - the classic case is - I go to rob the bank (the underlying felony) - as I'm being chased by the police I accidently run someone over and kill them - I'm guilty of murder when I had no intent of killing anyone

that's the classic case of the felony murder rule

 

[Louie12]

if you think the father should get off free, then youre stupid beyond the possibility of getting better lmao

 

[exploited17]

It's well rooted in common law and I would imagine every state has adopted it - the classic case is - I go to rob the bank (the underlying felony) - as I'm being chased by the police I accidently run someone over and kill them - I'm guilty of murder when I had no intent of killing anyone

that's the classic case of the felony murder rule

The problem is....where is the felony? What they did was legal. What was the illegal felony that led to what would be a charge? I don't see it

 

[Seymour]

The problem is....where is the felony? What they did was legal. What was the illegal felony that led to what would be a charge? I don't see it

I dunno but somehow following him with guns must be a felony - if not, even the most aggressive prosecutor would be laughed at with the murder charge for the father

 

[Enfuego]

if you think the father should get off free, then youre stupid beyond the possibility of getting better lmao

I'm sorry but from what I know today, he shouldn't be charged with anything other than being stupid.

 

[Enfuego]

I dunno but somehow following him with guns must be a felony - if not, even the most aggressive prosecutor would be laughed at with the murder charge for the father

How can that possibly be a felony to follow someone while carrying? No way.

 

[exploited17]

How can that possibly be a felony to follow someone while carrying? No way.

It isn't. They have the right to carry guns and try to question someone. I think it is only a problem when you point it at someone while doing so which they didn't

 

[Louie12]

I'm sorry but from what I know today, he shouldn't be charged with anything other than being stupid.

And for assisting in a murder

 

[Albatross]

Not that that means really anything. But what did he damage?


If a kid vandalizes and steals from anything.....what does that have to do with getting hunted down and shot dead?


The crime has to justify being killed. If it doesn’t, then the hillbillies are 100000% in the wrong.

I am not saying he stole or caused damage to anything. He could have stole fixtures and such. Back when copper was out the roof and people didnt have jobs 2008/9-2012/13......thugs and crackheads would cut wire and steal HVAC equipment. Depending on severity it could cost 20-30k to replace.....all so they could sell for money to buy their shit.

Dude should have never been in the house or houses....and even though he may be a criminal thief that would not warrant getting killed over. The guys that chased after him to make some sort of deputy dog arrest should be charged. They should have kept to themselves unless it was their property the dude was snooping around in.

 

[MattyMatt]

I'm sorry but from what I know today, he shouldn't be charged with anything other than being stupid.

So he should pay millions in a civil suit?

 

[Albatross]

Matty back from a 2 month beach stay. Must be nice.

 

[MattyMatt]

Matty back from a 2 month beach stay. Must be nice.

Dude, don’t cha know I’m essential, I’ve been working my A off...lol

 

[ERockMoney]

It isn't. They have the right to carry guns and try to question someone. I think it is only a problem when you point it at someone while doing so which they didn't

I don’t believe this is necessarily true, but it’s certainly a grey area. In GA, one can be charged with felony assault simply by approaching another individual with a deadly weapon in hand that causes the other individual to have a reasonable presumption that they can face bodily harm. The charges can range from misdemeanor to felony based on the DA overseeing the case. There are some justification type defenses to this.

 

[Seymour]

And for assisting in a murder

no one is charged with murder - the two are charged with felony murder - meaning they committed a felony and in the process of whatever that felony was someone died - they are also charged with aggravated assault

 

[exploited17]

I don’t believe this is necessarily true, but it’s certainly a grey area. In GA, one can be charged with felony assault simply by approaching another individual with a deadly weapon in hand that causes the other individual to have a reasonable presumption that they can face bodily harm. The charges can range from misdemeanor to felony based on the DA overseeing the case. There are some justification type defenses to this.

Probably but it is the context in which they did it that makes it legal. ?If you just walk up to someone with a weapon with the point to threaten or intimidate them then of course that would make sense. I mean I am not a lawyer but it seems to me this is about sending a message and also fear of what might happen if they are found not guilty. Maybe looking for a middle ground. Instead of going by the law and finding them not guilty and then changing the law I think this is what they are trying to do