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I may have a soft spot for Oregon State but for them to be ranked #18 and Cal not even ranked at all in SI's top 20 is WAY too big of a stretch for my imagination.
 

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Countdown to kickoff -- 18 days to go as of Sunday 8-16

2 weeks and 4 days from now it starts all oer again with Oregon @ Boise St. -- a huge game to finish the Thursday kick-off of the 2009 CFB season. (Thursday night 10:15 Eastern time.)

I hope all you east coast fans bother to stay up for this one. You'll get treated to a dramatic game with huge BCS implications between two top-12 programs -- not to mention a bonus education too (for real instead of getting suckered into all the senseless west coast blather from all the east coast experts.) As that day draws closer, I am beginning to think the Ducks will wax them.

Some more Pac-10 odds and ends:

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I see a lot todisagree with as far as Sports Illustrated goes. First, I like Penn state over Ohio State. Next, I think Ole Miss is really over-rated. It is as if all that SI did waslook at the schedule and saw 8 home games for the
Reb's, including 'Bama and LSU.

The absence of Cal is amazing. Not only do I think they have a good shot at finishing in the Top 10, but I think they win the Pac 10. If Oregon played at Cal, these positions may be swapped.

Then there is Oregon. (Sorry Oregon fans, but those uni's are a joke). How can SI pick them at #11 and our alleged college football guru, Phil Steele not have them in his Top 40 and behind UCLA, of all teams? According to Steele, Oregon woujld get killed if they played at Tennessee. Does anyone believe that? It makes no sense, but neither do most paid prognosticators, as this Top 20 list proves.

Finally, there is no way Va. Tech is #5 and USC is #4. Va Tech could well lose 3-4 games this year, especially with their injury problems. USC is either #1 or out of the Top 10, and right now, I sure do not see them as a #1 team. If they win on the road, they will be unbeatable, but until that defense can prove itself on the field, I am seeing 3 road losses minimum.
 

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Love the Cal game against Maryland. Cal playing with out of conference revenge for embarrassing road loss to Terps where they got down big early due to early East Coast Start Time (Noon EST = 9AM PST). Cal completely outstatted Terps in this game

1st Downs Cal - 26 MD 19
Ttl Yrds Cal 461 MD 297
TOP Cal 30:39 MD 29:21

Cal was only 2/11 on 3rd down conversions and 0/2 on 4th. They only rushed for 38 yards in the game and had horrible playcalliing. If you remember the Tennessee game from a couple years ago where Cal went on the road and got "Housed" only to come back the following year in a nationally televised game and put a whipping on Tennessee. Expect the same here as Maryland projects to have the worst OL and DL in the ACC and many publications have Cal's OL and DL as Top 10 units which should provide big running lanes for the CAL Backs. Anything under 28 to be would be safe. Add do this that Terps have been horrible road team past couple years going 3-8 ATS.

Just a hunch.

Also like your ASU under 6' win total. I count ID St, UL Mon, WSU and Washington at home as locks although they probably won't cover against Dogs at home if Locker is healthy. The other games are either SU losses or Toss ups at best. Devils never play well at Stanford and would have Ducks and Bruins on the road. I don't see them hitting 7 wins.

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Thx winone. The cal game is in no mans land for me right now. I won't lay that many points, though you may be right.

Oregon had a very good scrim. yest and Boise just lost a starting Olineman to injury. So far so good for duckies and pts.
 

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I may have a soft spot for Oregon State but for them to be ranked #18 and Cal not even ranked at all in SI's top 20 is WAY too big of a stretch for my imagination.

It is a glaring mistake. SI is a joke anyway.

Boise State football camp report: Offensive lineman likely out for season
BY CHADD CRIPE - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/16/09

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Boise State sophomore offensive lineman Cory Yriarte likely will miss the entire season with a knee injury, coach Chris Petersen said Saturday.

Yriarte was injured in Thursday's scrimmage.

Yriarte had been competing for a starting job at guard and the backup spot at center.

"He was in the mix," Petersen said. "He's definitely one of the top players. That's a bummer."

Yriarte started three games last season - one at center and two at guard. He provided flexibility because he could play all three inside positions.

Junior Kevin Sapien, junior Will Lawrence, freshman Brenel Myers and freshman Joe Kellogg are among the players competing at guard. Freshman Bronson Durrant is the backup center.

Yriarte is the only Bronco injured seriously so far in camp, Petersen said. Safety Jeron Johnson gave the Broncos a scare when he went down in pain during the scrimmage but he is fine, Petersen said.
 

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Safety Jeron Johnson gave the Broncos a scare when he went down in pain during the scrimmage but he is fine, Petersen said.

That's good. Save him for the game.


On another note, Boise seems to have a lot of young players,
especially linemen competing for starting jobs. This one will be
decided in the trenches where it counts to hit fast and hard.

How well has the conditioning been going in the Ducks' weightroom?
 

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The Cal stats for last year are very misleading. They got most of that yardage after the game was already decided. I would not give 21 points to anyone that Cal plays, except Wazzu. Cal can win this game by 40, but Tedford and Company have been knows to be very inconsistant.

The injury to the Boise Guard is damaging. The OL is obviously one of Boise's weak points, and this certainly does not help. Oregon +170 on the ML looks attractive. Oregon hs a habit of either winning, or getting blown out. In their last 12 losses over 3 years, the closest they have come was a 5 point loss to this same Boise State team. Every other loss has been by 7 or more, so the points basically are meaningles in this game. We may look at the ML. The spread is a definate pass.
 

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The Cal stats for last year are very misleading. They got most of that yardage after the game was already decided. I would not give 21 points to anyone that Cal plays, except Wazzu. Cal can win this game by 40, but Tedford and Company have been knows to be very inconsistant.

The injury to the Boise Guard is damaging. The OL is obviously one of Boise's weak points, and this certainly does not help. Oregon +170 on the ML looks attractive. Oregon hs a habit of either winning, or getting blown out. In their last 12 losses over 3 years, the closest they have come was a 5 point loss to this same Boise State team. Every other loss has been by 7 or more, so the points basically are meaningles in this game. We may look at the ML. The spread is a definate pass.

In BSU / Oregon game last year I believe Ducks were playing their 5th string QB for most of the game due to injuries. I believe Darron Thomas got the majority of the snaps in that game. Fact that they stayed that close was amazing.

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In BSU / Oregon game last year I believe Ducks were playing their 5th string QB for most of the game due to injuries. I believe Darron Thomas got the majority of the snaps in that game. Fact that they stayed that close was amazing.

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Then you may want to take the ML. Like I said, when they lose as a dog, they LOSE. Last year, they were +16 at USC and lost by 34. They were +2.5 at Cal, and lost by 10. They were +3 at Oregon State and won by 27.
 

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In BSU / Oregon game last year I believe Ducks were playing their 5th string QB for most of the game due to injuries. I believe Darron Thomas got the majority of the snaps in that game. Fact that they stayed that close was amazing.

Winone!!

Masoli got sent to the bench after a cheap shot to the head in the 1st qtr.

That brought true FR Chirs Harper in at QB. He had been nursing a bad shoulder and was having serious difficulties throwing. Once Peterson recognized that he loaded the box up.

Belloti who had been resisting putting Thomas in due to their desire to keep his RS relented in the 4th. Thomas lit up the BSU secondary and was VERY close to pulling it off. He is a real keeper and by all accounts the ducks hope to get his RS back this year.

What is most interesting to me about that 4th qtr and one of the big reasons I have a lot of confidence in this years game, is that Boise had no answer to Oregon once the ducks brought a QB who could throw it.

The game was not widely broadcast so I chuckle when people suggest that boise was playing prevent. They weren't. They also weren't playing their 2nd unit. These were the starters and even knowing that Oregon had to throw they couldn't stop them.
 

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Masoli got sent to the bench after a cheap shot to the head in the 1st qtr.

That brought true FR Chirs Harper in at QB. He had been nursing a bad shoulder and was having serious difficulties throwing. Once Peterson recognized that he loaded the box up.

Belloti who had been resisting putting Thomas in due to their desire to keep his RS relented in the 4th. Thomas lit up the BSU secondary and was VERY close to pulling it off. He is a real keeper and by all accounts the ducks hope to get his RS back this year.

What is most interesting to me about that 4th qtr and one of the big reasons I have a lot of confidence in this years game, is that Boise had no answer to Oregon once the ducks brought a QB who could throw it.

The game was not widely broadcast so I chuckle when people suggest that boise was playing prevent. They weren't. They also weren't playing their 2nd unit. These were the starters and even knowing that Oregon had to throw they couldn't stop them.

Yeah, the ML makes a lot of sense. I don't think there will be a moneyline until a few days before the game, such as it is in many places. At least it will be posted up before the rest because the game goes on a Thursday.
 

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Yeah, the ML makes a lot of sense. I don't think there will be a moneyline until a few days before the game, such as it is in many places. At least it will be posted up before the rest because the game goes on a Thursday.

What would it be at the current line? +170?
Let us know when you see it.
 

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I've highlighted here the issues that boise has at OL and DL. This is a serious hit. If anyone is considering UO hit it soon, this line will be dropping.

Broncos lose defensive tackle to injury

Submitted by Chadd Cripe on Mon, 08/17/2009 - 7:42pm. By Chadd Cripe
ccripe@idahostatesman.com
The Boise State football team has taken a hit at one of its thinnest positions.
Redshirt freshman defensive tackle Greg Grimes will miss four to six weeks with a leg injury, coach Chris Petersen said Monday. Grimes is expected to contribute in the tackle rotation this season.
The injury leaves the Broncos perilously thin at tackle, where they already will miss redshirt freshman Michael Atkinson for three games because of suspension. The Broncos open the season Sept. 3 against Oregon.
The Broncos have two proven performers at tackle in starters Chase Baker and Billy Winn, both sophomores. However, Grimes’ injury leaves sophomore J.P. Nisby and redshirt freshman converted end Darren Koontz as the backups. The Broncos like to rotate four tackles during games.
Sophomore offensive guard Chuck Hayes, a former defensive end, took snaps at defensive tackle Monday afternoon. He also took snaps at offensive guard, where he is a long shot to make the lineup.
I'll have a full story on the Broncos' tackle situation later this week.
 

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great thread guys....this is what these forums are supposed to be about...


good job everybody...& good luck
 

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Oregon down to +4.5 at BM. I think I'll take the points with them.

I'd go right ahead. This may be some bad news for the ML bettors with those odds for the Ducks win SU shrinking by the day. I hate to say it but the linemakers waiting to post the ML here probably saved themselves a ton of money. I'd bet +175 in a heartbeat. Should have gotten +230 or more at the very least when the line was at 6.
 

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