Obama calls Cambridge cop stupid.The cops report you decide...

[gtc08]

i think its 50/50. the blogs and boards seem to heavily favor the cop, but the blogs and boards heavily favored mccain and look what happened.

i dont think anyone would admit with a straight face racial profiling doesnt exist.

i do think guys like MJ/PPP would say this is government taking over, cops going wild taking a man out of his home and arresting him if gates was white since they play the obama angle with everything. the whole they can come for me, im going to defend my home right angle.

like i said, im 50/50 on it, lean to gates though.

 

[Mistermj]

i think its 50/50. the blogs and boards seem to heavily favor the cop, but the blogs and boards heavily favored mccain and look what happened.

i dont think anyone would admit with a straight face racial profiling doesnt exist.

i do think guys like MJ/PPP would say this is government taking over, cops going wild taking a man out of his home and arresting him if gates was white since they play the obama angle with everything. the whole they can come for me, im going to defend my home right angle.

like i said, im 50/50 on it, lean to gates though.

All the facts and eye witness reports are clearly on the side of the cop in this one.

Nuff said.

 

[3peet]

I don't see the problem here. The man proved he was in his own home. What did the man do wrong?

The cop WAS stupid. End of story. You'd say the same if it were your friend being hauled off to jail for doing nothing wrong.

 

[Mistermj]

I don't see the problem here. The man proved he was in his own home. What did the man do wrong?

The cop WAS stupid. End of story. You'd say the same if it were your friend being hauled off to jail for doing nothing wrong.

You are just like Obama....commenting without having the facts straight.

Just like clockwork...more knee jerk response piles on.

 

[3peet]

Here are the police reports detailing the confrontation last week between Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and Cambridge cops, who were condemned last night by President Barack Obama for acting "stupidly" in arresting the African-American scholar. Cops responded to Gates's house after neighbor Lucia Whalen reported spotting "two black males with backpacks" trying to gain entry to the home (Gates, returning home from a trip overseas, and his driver were contending with a stuck front door). The Cambridge Police Department reports, authored by Sergeant James Crowley and Officer James Figueroa, quote an incensed Gates yelling, "This is what happens to black men in America!," and, when asked by Crowley to speak with him outside the residence, Gates replied, "ya, I'll speak with your mama outside." A disorderly conduct rap was filed against Gates,

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what a fucking race baiting loser

BTW President Retard, what nationally do you think Officer Figueroa might be?

Fucking retard knows he shouldn't be talking without no teleprompter.

Wille, why don't you take you racist blinders off for once? Tell me exactly why a poice offer should arrest a middle aged man, who walks with a cane, proving (let alone standing) who is in his own home?

The officer acted stupidly. Even your ignorant ass should know that.

 

[roadreeler57]

My neighbor said the Professor & the Cab driver probably set the Cop up on pourpose to try to collect.

 

[gtc08]

My neighbor said the Professor & the Cab driver probably set the Cop up on pourpose to try to collect.

collect what. the professor is a millionaire with a home in marthas vineyard. that wasnt even his house, it was a house harvard gave to him for rental.

i still believe that MJ, road reeler, ppp, would be up in arms if this happened to a white guy. they are the same people saying if something like this ever happens to me i'll force them to pry my fingers off my gun, im protecting my house.

then they turn around and lay down for the cop. lol.

and thats if the cop is even telling the truth. police lie on reports sometimes.

 

[Mistermj]

collect what. the professor is a millionaire with a home in marthas vineyard. that wasnt even his house, it was a house harvard gave to him for rental.

i still believe that MJ, road reeler, ppp, would be up in arms if this happened to a white guy. they are the same people saying if something like this ever happens to me i'll force them to pry my fingers off my gun, im protecting my house.

then they turn around and lay down for the cop. lol.

and thats if the cop is even telling the truth. police lie on reports sometimes.

The cop was trying to protect Gates' property you moron.

All the cop knew was that a neighbor reported a break in...in progress.

You libs are tarded.

 

[johnboland]

Officer Crowley and Jim Crow on the next "Inside Edition". I guess the offical name of the scandal once Sharpton and Jackson get on the scene will be "Gates Gate".

 

[barman]

and all that talk about not opening the door is poppycock because the officer would have been justified to kick the door down under such circumstances

You have a painful misunderstanding of the 4th Amendment.

Having a passerby claim that people inside a house don't belong there is wholly insufficient PC to justify police entry into a private dwelling.

Police cannot enter a private dwelling unless they have such PC

 

[barman]

You are making wild assumptions that are not based on facts...other than that...knock yourself out.

The wild assumptions began in Post #1...I'm just having fun playing along

 

[barman]

Besides the obvious glaring error in Crowley's police report where he purports the "disorderly conduct" occurred in a "public place" (in fact it was on private property), is there anyone who thinks it possible that Crowley included other misleading information in his report?

 

[Mistermj]

Besides the obvious glaring error in Crowley's police report where he purports the "disorderly conduct" occurred in a "public place" (in fact it was on private property), is there anyone who thinks it possible that Crowley included other misleading information in his report?

People were gathering in front of the house on the "public" sidewalk...which is a public place.

Do you have any other manipulations of the truth we can talk about?

C'mon man.

 

[barman]

LOL, you must get arrested a lot if this is your attitude towards police officers.

I have not been arrested since 1991.

And prior to this past January 31, I spent the previous six years working 15-20 hours a week with active duty and retired police officers as part of my paid work reforming public drug policies.

As you might imagine, both the First and Fourth Amendments are the most likely to be involved with police and the enforcement of drug laws. I have been taught in great detail what constitutes both reasonable cause (for a traffic stop) and probable cause (for a search or entry into private property).

If police have appropriate PC, it's best to let them in without resistance.

However, if they do not have appropriate PC (most commonly represented with a legal warrant), it's usually best to peaceably deny them entrance into your private property.

 

[barman]

Lest any one or more of us here in the RxPoliticoPub get too ramped up bantering this topic with only the two conflicting accounts from Officer Crowley and Professor Gates, it's likely a good place to wrap by noting that Gates did not get charged and that's good news.

If you're willing to set aside the alleged racial attitudes and components to this story, it also provides us with yet another stark example of how a person with decent money and decent influence is more able to overcome bogus arrests by police.

Far too many other Americans without decent money and or decent influence in the community can suffer tremendous damage when arrested on bogus charges.

Thus the urgent need for us to carefully scrutinize ALL arrests for people of any color which come under challenge

 

[Georgiaboy]

Not that I like taking up for Che Obama, but he didn't say the cop was stupid, he said he ACTED stupidly. Big difference, you don't tell you kid your stupid, you say you acted like a fucking idiot....or stupidly whatever floats your boat.

 

[punter]

Yeah when I saw it on the news it was totally different than what Pat and mj described. Just as I expected.

 

[Mistermj]

Yeah when I saw it on the news it was totally different than what Pat and mj described. Just as I expected.

You know you lost the argument when all you have left to offer is goofy word play games.

We all know what Obama meant...and he was wrong.

He didn't have the facts straight.

 

[punter]

You are a minor league Karl Rove. The truth is totally foreign to you isn't it Onion.

 

[Mistermj]

You are a minor league Karl Rove. The truth is totally foreign to you isn't it Onion.

You only deal in insult...a sure sign of somebody without the facts on their side. !~~~!