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Am I happy with the call now? No.......... The over shove made no sense with this guy.
 

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There's plenty of history with this guy... Easy to play the hand when you know the outcome.

I see your point. I just can't imagine calling that bet with two overs on the board. Doesn't matter if I know the outcome now or not.
 

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I see your point. I just can't imagine calling that bet with two overs on the board. Doesn't matter if I know the outcome now or not.

Nit ABC poker might work at your local buddies game but it would get eaten by the wolves against superior play.
 

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I see your point. I just can't imagine calling that bet with two overs on the board. Doesn't matter if I know the outcome now or not.
You are reading 1 hand of the thousands I have personally played against this particular kid. You were given very little info to base your conclusion on. I didn't tell you what the effective stack sizes were, what his particular tendencies were, his body language etc....... I analyzed this kid for hours upon hours. 70-80% of the time this particular player holds a underpair or busted flush draw here. A very small amount of the info I used to make the call was posted here. The actual cards on board here had very little to do with my decision.
 

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I see your point. I just can't imagine calling that bet with two overs on the board. Doesn't matter if I know the outcome now or not.
Do you understand how that style of play can be completely exploited?
 

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Please don't think I'm talking down or acting like I'm better than you here. I am just trying to explain what all was analyzed and how I came to my decision. Regardless... I wish I would have went with your fold here. You sir, would still have a tournament life. Anyways, on to the mini one drop.
 

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I see your point. I just can't imagine calling that bet with two overs on the board. Doesn't matter if I know the outcome now or not.

Also there were not 2 overs really. There was 1 which was paired which actually diminishes the odds the guy has one in his hand (much less two heh).

The way he played it I wouldn't have put him on much of anything either. Strange he didn't 3-bet PF and also that he raised the flop. If he flopped trips (or quads) and had position you would think he would flat the flop and let awm continue to bluff off (or to continue what he thought was a value betting line). Also his jam screams that he didn't want to be called.

I dunno, I would have probably folded too but I don't have all the info awm does and I can definitely understand the line of thinking behind calling there.
 

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Given his line the only things I could really put him on that make any sense are a busted draw, 10 10, or POSSIBLY 99

JJ+ probably 3-bets preflop
Ax doesn't raise the flop or check behind the turn on a draw board (assuming there is a flush draw here and I'm excluding AA regarding the check behind, which I would have ruled out given no 3 bet PF and the flop raise)
 

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You are reading 1 hand of the thousands I have personally played against this particular kid. You were given very little info to base your conclusion on. I didn't tell you what the effective stack sizes were, what his particular tendencies were, his body language etc....... I analyzed this kid for hours upon hours. 70-80% of the time this particular player holds a underpair or busted flush draw here. A very small amount of the info I used to make the call was posted here. The actual cards on board here had very little to do with my decision.

Is t this style of play benificial? If i were to play competitively in poker, my play would be similar. Keep the other players guessing.

Everyone always says the raise was wrong, the cards were played wrong, etc.. But cant this style of play be worth it? Im not saying chase 1 outters or continusily over bet the pot. Dunno

Amw seems to know what he's doing, he did what he thought was right at the time. Get'em next time
 

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Please don't think I'm talking down or acting like I'm better than you here. I am just trying to explain what all was analyzed and how I came to my decision. Regardless... I wish I would have went with your fold here. You sir, would still have a tournament life. Anyways, on to the mini one drop.

I don't think that at all awm. I enjoy your thread and wish you the best. Looks like you're having a ton of fun.
 

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The line the guy took from the big blind was awkward and out of character for him. Like I said, I only gave minimal details. I didn't inform you of effective stacks, flush draws, if they came on or not. Regardless, I made a thin call and that's what this game is all about at this level of play. If you are making the right moves/calls/jams/plays/folds etc.... I clearly had a bad read here, but all you can do is accept it and move on. Noone ever reads correctly 100% of the time. I feel I have been at or near the top of my game for the last month or so and the results have been beyond what I have expected. All I can do is move on to today's mini 1 drop and home that things fall my way. Thanks for the support fellas. There are some people on this forum that have better poker understanding than I had once predicted. I hope you guys take a shot once in a while. I hope to see you at the tables, and I love this game. I hope to see you guys at the next stop. Ill keep the updates coming.
 

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Thanks for including the AA vs KK hand in thread; again shows how good a player you are; and that you are not a player who only shows his great winning hands; it is a t."; and he knew you did not have an ace...lol..gl common bluffing situation when the flop has a high pair or all one suit to overbet the pot and "buy the pot"..gl
 

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My responses to Enfuego absolutely come from the fact that the opponent called from BB and played the hand out as he did. As AWM says, there are A LOT of factors into the hand but minus the outcome, opps.' hand doesn't scream AA.

GL rest of the way AWM.
 
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The KK was played correctly taking in consideration the history behind. Guy perfectly could had TT-JJ-QQ... AQ also a strong possibility but when holding KK and two aces flop you just have to have almost a perfect read to avoid trips or quads.
 

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I didn't mean to start any type of debate. I just wanted to include a little bit of info on how I busted. It's annoying to read trip reports where a guy claims to do nothing but win. Anyways, playing the mini one drop today. I'm happy to be doing what I love and at the same time contributing to a worthy charity rather than a greedy casino. Broke nearly even last night playing sit n go's. chopped one heads up and chopped one 3 ways. I'm anxious for the Main to start, yet sad that my one of my favorite series of the year is ending. It's almost time to go back to work, back to the real world. I am very blessed to be able to take off a couple times a year and do what I love. It's a bonus when it is profitable. I've been doing this for 10+ years. The first few were far from profitable, enjoyable none the less. FYI my non playing uncle cashed for just over 9 G's last night. He thinks he has found his calling! Tough days ahead unk!
 

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Awesome stuff. I don't think anyone was debating per se, just a good open discussion. Anyways thanks for sharing and good luck my man.
 

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I didn't mean to start any type of debate. I just wanted to include a little bit of info on how I busted. It's annoying to read trip reports where a guy claims to do nothing but win. Anyways, playing the mini one drop today. I'm happy to be doing what I love and at the same time contributing to a worthy charity rather than a greedy casino. Broke nearly even last night playing sit n go's. chopped one heads up and chopped one 3 ways. I'm anxious for the Main to start, yet sad that my one of my favorite series of the year is ending. It's almost time to go back to work, back to the real world. I am very blessed to be able to take off a couple times a year and do what I love. It's a bonus when it is profitable. I've been doing this for 10+ years. The first few were far from profitable, enjoyable none the less. FYI my non playing uncle cashed for just over 9 G's last night. He thinks he has found his calling! Tough days ahead unk!
Awm... Please don't stop!!! Don't stop posting wins or losses... this thread is currently the best one going at the RX... keep it going bro.
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Awesome stuff. I don't think anyone was debating per se, just a good open discussion. Anyways thanks for sharing and good luck my man.

Totally agree. At least he's in the game while most of us are on the rail.
 

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