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Donald Trump's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, accidentally endorsed Paul Ryan for president on Thursday.

"Look. I support the speaker and I know after next week, I'm supporting him as a candidate for president, too," Manafort said on "CBS This Morning," before quickly correcting himself amid laughter during a discussion about the Republican presidential nominee's refusal to outright endorse the House speaker in his primary against Paul Nehlen on Tuesday.

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What is the pro-Syrian refugee argument? Between that and blanket amnesty with no additional security, Ryan's positions do seem a little dubious.
 

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Liberals, listen up. For once in your life, do the right thing.


Writing in the Huffington Post, Mickey Kaus suggests a way for Democrat voters in Wisconsin to end Republican Speaker Paul Ryan’s political career.


On Tuesday, August 9, there’s a primary for the seat held by Paul Ryan, the House Speaker. It’s in the news — Ryan is being challenged in the Republican primary by a hitherto little-known businessman, Paul Nehlen. There’s also a contested primary on the Democratic side. On Tuesday, Donald Trump pointedly refused to endorse Ryan, which doesn’t necessarily reflect any Ryan weakness in the district (more like Trump and Ryan’s irreconcilable differences.) But Ryan was vulnerable before, and he’s more vulnerable now.


That’s where Wisconsin Democrats come in: Wisconsin’s open primary tradition means you can vote in Ryan’s primary — which gives you, through a harmonic convergence of circumstance, a strange and shocking power. With one vote you can boot the most powerful national Republican in the country, an ideological zealot who will never be dissuaded from enacting policies inimical to Democratic ideas and interests. With one vote, you can kill the pending Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal. You can kill the GOP’s longstanding plan to voucherize Medicare. Kill Ryan’s scheme to pack all welfare programs into one capped stream of money and let states spend it as they wish. Kill his plans to promote guest workers and in effectively encourage more immigrants to come here and bid down wages.


Why would you not do that?


In 2014, remember, thousands of Democrats in Virginia crossed over to vote in the Republican primary against ambitious GOP rising star, Majority Leader Eric Cantor. That may have made the difference in the shocking defeat of the now ex-rising star by a little-known professor, Dave Brat.


Why not do it again?

And for once in my life I’ll be rooting for you.
 
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Liberals, listen up. For once in your life, do the right thing.


Writing in the Huffington Post, Mickey Kaus suggests a way for Democrat voters in Wisconsin to end Republican Speaker Paul Ryan’s political career.


On Tuesday, August 9, there’s a primary for the seat held by Paul Ryan, the House Speaker. It’s in the news — Ryan is being challenged in the Republican primary by a hitherto little-known businessman, Paul Nehlen. There’s also a contested primary on the Democratic side. On Tuesday, Donald Trump pointedly refused to endorse Ryan, which doesn’t necessarily reflect any Ryan weakness in the district (more like Trump and Ryan’s irreconcilable differences.) But Ryan was vulnerable before, and he’s more vulnerable now.


That’s where Wisconsin Democrats come in: Wisconsin’s open primary tradition means you can vote in Ryan’s primary — which gives you, through a harmonic convergence of circumstance, a strange and shocking power. With one vote you can boot the most powerful national Republican in the country, an ideological zealot who will never be dissuaded from enacting policies inimical to Democratic ideas and interests. With one vote, you can kill the pending Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal. You can kill the GOP’s longstanding plan to voucherize Medicare. Kill Ryan’s scheme to pack all welfare programs into one capped stream of money and let states spend it as they wish. Kill his plans to promote guest workers and in effectively encourage more immigrants to come here and bid down wages.


Why would you not do that?


In 2014, remember, thousands of Democrats in Virginia crossed over to vote in the Republican primary against ambitious GOP rising star, Majority Leader Eric Cantor. That may have made the difference in the shocking defeat of the now ex-rising star by a little-known professor, Dave Brat.


Why not do it again?

And for once in my life I’ll be rooting for you.

Doesn't this make you want to vote for Ryan? Kaus is more liberal than Vitterd. It's odd to see the RX "conservatives" jump to support liberals and their values.
 

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Shouldn't liberals just vote for Ryan and do what bastion of conservatism Mike Pence says?
 

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Doesn't this make you want to vote for Ryan? Kaus is more liberal than Vitterd. It's odd to see the RX "conservatives" jump to support liberals and their values.

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Dubious immigration policies? Are you sure you aren't talking about Trump?

You don't think we should have a secure border with a 3rd world country?

The wall and all of that is stupid, but we should deploy more resources given we're the richest country and Mexico is 3rd world.

Immigration should be more merit based going forward. We can't just take anyone and everyone as an excuse to fluff GDP growth and cheap labor.
 

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You'll have to point me to where Paul Ryan said we shouldn't have a secure border with Mexico.

Well he isn't for open borders per se, but the policies he does support such as those in the omnibus spending bill, expanding work visas, H1B, H2B, etc being prioritized over border security isn't the strongest record on immigration reform.

Probably a big reason this has become the issue it is.
 
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Well he isn't for open borders per se, but the policies he does support such as those in the omnibus spending bill, expanding work visas, H1B, H2B, etc being prioritized over border security isn't the strongest record on immigration reform.

Probably a big reason this has become the issue it is.

Not a fan of H1B? I thought you were an innovation guy.

You also mentioned amnesty earlier. I mean what do you advocate? Rounding up 11 million illegals to send them back? What does that look like in reality?
 

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Another myth spread by bullshit websites like breitbart.

This why a respected businessman like Paul Nehlen is running against Ryan...because Breitbart is spreading bullshit. This is your argument?

Like I said, Washingtonitis. Who knows, maybe Nehlen will be in the same boat 10 years from now and you'll be defending him.
 

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Not a fan of H1B? I thought you were an innovation guy.

You also mentioned amnesty earlier. I mean what do you advocate? Rounding up 11 million illegals to send them back? What does that look like in reality?

Yeah but it still needs reform. When companies like FB or Google use it, it is usually because they're rapidly trying to expand their workforce.

But there are a lot of companies that just use it as wage arbitrage. More rust belt tech companies like HP or Oracle. You tend to see those companies push hard for it just as a way to save on wages.

I think on balance it is good policy, but the abuses need to be curbed. Something like 40% of H1B is at the lowest level of tech labor.

I just said immigration should be merit based, so obviously I think poaching talent from the globe is good policy.
 
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This why a respected businessman like Paul Nehlen is running against Ryan...because Breitbart is spreading bullshit.

Like I said, Washingtonitis. Who knows, maybe Nehlen will be in the same boat 10 years from now and you'll be defending him.

Huh? No. The idea that Obama got everything he wanted is a lie spread by Breitbart.

Nehlen has a chance because plenty of old white men choose to spend their days listening to Rush, reading Breitbart and buying gold.
 
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Yeah but it still needs reform. When companies like FB or Google use it, it is usually because they're rapidly trying to expand their workforce.

But there are a lot of companies that just use it as wage arbitrage. More rust belt tech companies like HP or Oracle. You tend to see those companies push hard for it just as a way to save on wages.

I think on balance it is good policy, but the abuses need to be curbed. Something like 40% of H1B is at the lowest level of tech labor.

That's a fair criticism.
 

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Not a fan of H1B? I thought you were an innovation guy.

You also mentioned amnesty earlier. I mean what do you advocate? Rounding up 11 million illegals to send them back? What does that look like in reality?

Something like border securitization mixed with a pathway to citizenship, this pathway having some elements of assimilation to it, however that last aspect is probably a pipe dream.

I think the wall is a bit much, but if we could 3D print it I do think that would be pretty cool. Like a modern day Apollo mission or the Chicago fair where Edison first unveiled his electricity breakthroughs and people from all over came to marvel at the ingenuity.

 

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Doesn't this make you want to vote for Ryan? Kaus is more liberal than Vitterd. It's odd to see the RX "conservatives" jump to support liberals and their values.
No it does not. IMHO Ryan is a two faced bullshit artist. He is also a capitulator. Unlike Vit I comment on the substance of the article not the author.


Once upon a time I thought Ryan had his shit together then he became Speaker and passed the terrible 1.1 trillion Omnibus bill.


The bill that fully funds DACA, funds Sanctuary Cities, funds all Refugee Programs, funds all of the Mideast Immigration Programs, funds illegal alien resettlement, funds the release of criminal aliens, quadruples H-2B Foreign Worker Visas, funds tax credits for illegal aliens, all liberal values which I deplore.


So it would make me happy if the liberals followed Kaus’s suggestion and voted him out even though Ryan is their benefactor. Nothing odd about it.
 

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What would anyone who has been in government their entire life know about capitalism and prosperity? :think2:
 

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