Wednesday: 1-1 +0.41
YTD: 28-20 +15.28
Thursday:
White Sox +145 [Grande]
Sometimes I am stubborn. Sometimes I have to be hit upside the head more than once. Sometimes I get whacked upside the head but my scalp is OK. So......Sox have played the Yanks tough at home this series despite the L's. Today I see The Moose and and his .250 quality starts so far. I have seen The Moose pitch several times this year....ugh. And I see the crafty southpaw Schoenweis, who in two starts is 1.000 QS. I saw him last time out.
OK if that is not enough how about this. Moose is 13-16 5.01 vs. Sox lifetime. Only one other club lifetime has gotten to Moose for over 4.00. That is Texas and some of that damage of course was at Arlington. Facing easily his worst lifetime opponent tonight, Moose is also 0-1 13.51 at Comiskey last three years. That is when he was The Moose. Maybe he still is the Moose. But I want to see him be The Moose before I pass on +145 Away/Night where, you guessed it, Moose shows his highest ERA.
I will be back with more I hope. GL and protect your unit!!!
YTD: 28-20 +15.28
Thursday:
White Sox +145 [Grande]
Sometimes I am stubborn. Sometimes I have to be hit upside the head more than once. Sometimes I get whacked upside the head but my scalp is OK. So......Sox have played the Yanks tough at home this series despite the L's. Today I see The Moose and and his .250 quality starts so far. I have seen The Moose pitch several times this year....ugh. And I see the crafty southpaw Schoenweis, who in two starts is 1.000 QS. I saw him last time out.
OK if that is not enough how about this. Moose is 13-16 5.01 vs. Sox lifetime. Only one other club lifetime has gotten to Moose for over 4.00. That is Texas and some of that damage of course was at Arlington. Facing easily his worst lifetime opponent tonight, Moose is also 0-1 13.51 at Comiskey last three years. That is when he was The Moose. Maybe he still is the Moose. But I want to see him be The Moose before I pass on +145 Away/Night where, you guessed it, Moose shows his highest ERA.
I will be back with more I hope. GL and protect your unit!!!
Thanks. And congrats on your winner last night. When we left we thought you was a Fish out of the water with the Fish. But we get home and we see the Fish coming back. So I yell out to the Mrs. I say hey The Fish is back and she says was he ever gone tonight and I says no but the Fish was down by four with the Fish and she says you mean The Fish stuck with four his limit and I says yeah he did but he was down four with the Fish and she says I know he downed four and stuck to his limit. He was good tonight and then I just says nevermind.
But I'm just joking she was aware of The Fish being down four with The Fish and The Fish staying within the limit of four and not drinking like the usual Fish and then of course The Fish rewarded The Fish cause he was good last night!!!!
But I'm just joking she was aware of The Fish being down four with The Fish and The Fish staying within the limit of four and not drinking like the usual Fish and then of course The Fish rewarded The Fish cause he was good last night!!!!
Adding:
Milwaukee +140 [GA]
An IDGI game !! I Don't Get It!! Admittedly haven't followed this series closely. There are probably many, many things I don't know here. But these things I know and are the facts and nothing but the facts:
Milwaukee is the home team. Milwaukee is 8-8 and W2. Arizona is the road team. Arizona is 4-10; 2-8 last 10; L4.
Brandon Webb is a good pitcher. Wes Obermueller is not as good. Wes Obermueller is a major league pitcher who on April 14th in his bid to gain a spot in the Brewers rotation pitched 6 and 2/3's scoreless innings in San Francisco. I looked no further at all lest my initial hit it thought be cursed with second guessing. So it's an IDGI game. There has to be some reason for the home Brewers to be +140.
Whatever it is I don't want to know. I am just leaping with great faith. So is this line from heaven? I don't know. It may come from hell. I don't know. I have a voice telling me to bet the Brewers. One more fact. Wes Obermueller is from IOWA.
Milwaukee +140 [GA]
An IDGI game !! I Don't Get It!! Admittedly haven't followed this series closely. There are probably many, many things I don't know here. But these things I know and are the facts and nothing but the facts:
Milwaukee is the home team. Milwaukee is 8-8 and W2. Arizona is the road team. Arizona is 4-10; 2-8 last 10; L4.
Brandon Webb is a good pitcher. Wes Obermueller is not as good. Wes Obermueller is a major league pitcher who on April 14th in his bid to gain a spot in the Brewers rotation pitched 6 and 2/3's scoreless innings in San Francisco. I looked no further at all lest my initial hit it thought be cursed with second guessing. So it's an IDGI game. There has to be some reason for the home Brewers to be +140.
Whatever it is I don't want to know. I am just leaping with great faith. So is this line from heaven? I don't know. It may come from hell. I don't know. I have a voice telling me to bet the Brewers. One more fact. Wes Obermueller is from IOWA.
Jones, this is solely based on webb against the mil pitcher.. your getting value here with this pick but you also have the sweep factor, and i consider webb to be the ace of AZ (right now).. and the ace of a staff is supposed to stop losing streaks,, i like AZ in this one but definately not at this price, so good luck with it.. i also like your wsox pick..
Thanks SSI,
I agree just don't put that much stock in the sweep factor. I played the game a bit and we did not necessarily pay much attention to that. We did know when we when we were going well and when we stunk. The stink factor I would say was the overiding and most permeating one and was not easily washed away after another loss particularly on the road. Arizona now stinks and I see them finding a way to lose which odiferous clubs manage to do.
As the world turned against me and Pinny had this one at +148, I began to wonder if I can be right and everybody else wrong. I made a bet that I am...another half unit and not for tracking purposes. What was so interesting to me and why I am belaboring a debate on this game was the steam this baby picked up.
If as you point out, we are to anticipate what may happen and weigh what should happen against all that is happening, I might have a good year. But Arizona backers are not even doing that IMO.
THIS IS A HOME DOG PLAYING DECENT AT +148 against a team that is playing truly horseshit baseball!!!Tunnel Vision seeing only starters is absurd. Not only when we are wagering in an era of 6 inning quality starts but especially when we really don't have what I would call a true ace but merely a good, solid MLB pitcher. The other guy will be getting a paycheck too and looked very good a week ago.
Sure, I might lose this one. But if this kind of thing presents itself with any degree of regularity, I will have a good year. If Milwaukee stays close they will get a pen full of double digit ERA's and guys for whom the fear factor is making another appearance. Those guys and the closer at 13.50 SHOULD be better but are not right now.
Not argueing with you at all. It is impossible to stay on top of every detail in each series or every bit of statistical minutiae involving each team and have anykind of life at all.
I am merely debating and not with anyone in particular which angle is the strongest. A no series sweep because of ace by default angle or a winning playing good baseball home dog at +148. Todays result will proove nothing at all but the question is good food for thought.
Forget the score right now it's not hardly over, Ive been typing this for awhile. GL gentlemen and protect your unit.
I agree just don't put that much stock in the sweep factor. I played the game a bit and we did not necessarily pay much attention to that. We did know when we when we were going well and when we stunk. The stink factor I would say was the overiding and most permeating one and was not easily washed away after another loss particularly on the road. Arizona now stinks and I see them finding a way to lose which odiferous clubs manage to do.
As the world turned against me and Pinny had this one at +148, I began to wonder if I can be right and everybody else wrong. I made a bet that I am...another half unit and not for tracking purposes. What was so interesting to me and why I am belaboring a debate on this game was the steam this baby picked up.
If as you point out, we are to anticipate what may happen and weigh what should happen against all that is happening, I might have a good year. But Arizona backers are not even doing that IMO.
THIS IS A HOME DOG PLAYING DECENT AT +148 against a team that is playing truly horseshit baseball!!!Tunnel Vision seeing only starters is absurd. Not only when we are wagering in an era of 6 inning quality starts but especially when we really don't have what I would call a true ace but merely a good, solid MLB pitcher. The other guy will be getting a paycheck too and looked very good a week ago.
Sure, I might lose this one. But if this kind of thing presents itself with any degree of regularity, I will have a good year. If Milwaukee stays close they will get a pen full of double digit ERA's and guys for whom the fear factor is making another appearance. Those guys and the closer at 13.50 SHOULD be better but are not right now.
Not argueing with you at all. It is impossible to stay on top of every detail in each series or every bit of statistical minutiae involving each team and have anykind of life at all.
I am merely debating and not with anyone in particular which angle is the strongest. A no series sweep because of ace by default angle or a winning playing good baseball home dog at +148. Todays result will proove nothing at all but the question is good food for thought.
Forget the score right now it's not hardly over, Ive been typing this for awhile. GL gentlemen and protect your unit.
Jones, easy now,, i said Mil +1.40 had good value,, i was commenting on the line being AZ-1.50 was simply because webb was pitching,, and i consider webb the ace of their staff (he didnt pitch like it today).. i liked Az around the -1.20 and not -1.50.. your choice in mil made sense and since i didnt play it, i wish you luck...
No, no, no SSI you misread me. My original question was what was I not seeing. You answered that. Thanks. I read you right and thought I was clear that I was not at all arguing with you. And you did make it clear that at that number you did not like your potential play. Yet at that number how many did? Man unbelievable!!!
I appreciate your input and I just got carried away because any dog price on the Brewers I would have taken a look at. And yet there it was at +148 and well I get wordy and simply had to state why I felt as I did.
Please bring on your comments. They are appreciated. Now in the tenth, I feel I made my point to some degree win or lose. Give me one of these everyday and I'll take my chances. I'm always up for a bases discussion.
SSI my best to you and GL my friend. Thanks again for your comment in my thread.
I appreciate your input and I just got carried away because any dog price on the Brewers I would have taken a look at. And yet there it was at +148 and well I get wordy and simply had to state why I felt as I did.
Please bring on your comments. They are appreciated. Now in the tenth, I feel I made my point to some degree win or lose. Give me one of these everyday and I'll take my chances. I'm always up for a bases discussion.
SSI my best to you and GL my friend. Thanks again for your comment in my thread.
Mr. Jones, dont know how much you know about the brewers but their double A affiliate is in my hometown of huntsville al, and they are loaded my friend... most talented team in all minor leagues at any level, according to some.. i will be checking out some games this year, hoping to see big cecil fielder,, word is that he will be in town alot watching his son... tony gwynn jr also a star, dont know how much he will be here though.. ricky weeks at 2nd is also another star,,, the brewers infield possibly next year will include prince fielder and ricky weeks,, sorry for rambling and multi talented keichnek homered and tied it for you..
I'm watching the game today. It was said their organization is loaded.
Mantei's 13.50 ERA sort of got a bit higher in the 9th there didn't it? This promised to be a close ball game and that was my point.
Enjoy the Huntsville team this summer. We generally get up to East Tennessee for a while in the summer and try to catch at least one Tennessee Smokies game. Later.
Mantei's 13.50 ERA sort of got a bit higher in the 9th there didn't it? This promised to be a close ball game and that was my point.
Enjoy the Huntsville team this summer. We generally get up to East Tennessee for a while in the summer and try to catch at least one Tennessee Smokies game. Later.
Cubs -1.5 +118 {Pinnacle]
Last year after three horrific starts to start the year Maddux went 6 innings gving up 1 run in an easy 7-1 Braves victory in the game that turned things around for him. Everything falls into place today for a deja vue all over again. In fact that score today wouldn't surprise me.
Wind should be NNE 5 to 10 mph. That's blowing in over the center field scoreboard straight towards home plate. You got to know Wrigley well [like I do having spent most of my youth there on spring and summer afternoons]to know that even 5 to 10 is significant. Wind blowing in at Wrigley has virtually no stands blocking it and of course it's colder. This is the other Wrigley Field; the usual April Wrigley. I would forget the Over/ Under as the man has got that about right today.
Last time out neither Maddux nor anybody else could have overcome the SSWesterly gail force winds. Throw that start out. Now the Mets bring their currently pathetic offense to town. I'll take a shot on the -1.5 for +118.
Can live with the downside of that. But I do not accept a -178 unit loss on one game ever!! Something can go dreadfully wrong and the Cubs can lose because this is afterall baseball where anything can happen on a given day.
Cubs average runs per game 6.47...Mets 4.00 but that is not indicative of recent numbers which would show an even greater disparity. So Maddux has today the opitimum spot to
get untracked. And this then is a bet on him as much as everthing else. The everything else looks good too. If Maddux doesn't get it done today, I would suspect arm trouble or even worse and I don't even want to go there.
And we have Seo whose record mirrors Maddux's without the wind aberration game. He is facing the Cub bats which can far more easily overcome the NNE wind than can the Mets. It will of course piss me off if the Cubs win by one, but there is value here. I like this play but will protect my unit as always.
Last year after three horrific starts to start the year Maddux went 6 innings gving up 1 run in an easy 7-1 Braves victory in the game that turned things around for him. Everything falls into place today for a deja vue all over again. In fact that score today wouldn't surprise me.
Wind should be NNE 5 to 10 mph. That's blowing in over the center field scoreboard straight towards home plate. You got to know Wrigley well [like I do having spent most of my youth there on spring and summer afternoons]to know that even 5 to 10 is significant. Wind blowing in at Wrigley has virtually no stands blocking it and of course it's colder. This is the other Wrigley Field; the usual April Wrigley. I would forget the Over/ Under as the man has got that about right today.
Last time out neither Maddux nor anybody else could have overcome the SSWesterly gail force winds. Throw that start out. Now the Mets bring their currently pathetic offense to town. I'll take a shot on the -1.5 for +118.
Can live with the downside of that. But I do not accept a -178 unit loss on one game ever!! Something can go dreadfully wrong and the Cubs can lose because this is afterall baseball where anything can happen on a given day.
Cubs average runs per game 6.47...Mets 4.00 but that is not indicative of recent numbers which would show an even greater disparity. So Maddux has today the opitimum spot to
get untracked. And this then is a bet on him as much as everthing else. The everything else looks good too. If Maddux doesn't get it done today, I would suspect arm trouble or even worse and I don't even want to go there.
And we have Seo whose record mirrors Maddux's without the wind aberration game. He is facing the Cub bats which can far more easily overcome the NNE wind than can the Mets. It will of course piss me off if the Cubs win by one, but there is value here. I like this play but will protect my unit as always.
good luck today mr. jones. i passed on your two selections, so good luck.. im very familiar with wrigley as well and with maddux in particular.. his starts have troubled me, i will say this,, if he cant beat the light hitting mets with the wind blowing straight in, then he is in trouble.. i should say, if he cant turn it around in this one.. I had to pass because i dont lay -1.5 on home teams..
Don't get your comment or is it a question Cedar? Cubs now -201 at Pinny all the way to -210 at BoDog. Worth it? No. Not for me. If you meant the -178 earlier, I alluded to. No. Not for me.
If you are saying that the earlier number was good to bet because it is now 200, your logic escapes me. I knew it was going where it is now and I expect the Cubs to win and obviously win by more than one. The line move has no bearing on what is going to happen out there today.
I just don't play big favs here no matter how juicy they look. Protect your unit means protect your unit. Would you stack that lumber on an 0-2 pitcher ERA 8.62 if he was not Maddox.
Now as for my -1.5 +118 which is now +102; soon the value will be gone there also if it isn't allready. But I made that play because it is Maddox, he comes back strong today [probably?] as I explained originally, and I feel I have at least 50% probability on the +118 given todays factors and variables.
I know that many bases games are decided by one run. I of all people know this as fact. I have said don't try to make a living on these bets. I like them in spots.
The way I play bases when I lose 2 units, it's because two dogs didn't cover. But in that scenario my upside potential would have been far greater than the one unit which you risk two to win one here. Look at it this way if you win this matchup 2 out of 3 times, you are only even. If by some quirk you lose 2 out of 3 you are minus 3 units. That is not protecting your unit and this ain't rocket science.
If you are saying that the earlier number was good to bet because it is now 200, your logic escapes me. I knew it was going where it is now and I expect the Cubs to win and obviously win by more than one. The line move has no bearing on what is going to happen out there today.
I just don't play big favs here no matter how juicy they look. Protect your unit means protect your unit. Would you stack that lumber on an 0-2 pitcher ERA 8.62 if he was not Maddox.
Now as for my -1.5 +118 which is now +102; soon the value will be gone there also if it isn't allready. But I made that play because it is Maddox, he comes back strong today [probably?] as I explained originally, and I feel I have at least 50% probability on the +118 given todays factors and variables.
I know that many bases games are decided by one run. I of all people know this as fact. I have said don't try to make a living on these bets. I like them in spots.
The way I play bases when I lose 2 units, it's because two dogs didn't cover. But in that scenario my upside potential would have been far greater than the one unit which you risk two to win one here. Look at it this way if you win this matchup 2 out of 3 times, you are only even. If by some quirk you lose 2 out of 3 you are minus 3 units. That is not protecting your unit and this ain't rocket science.
