I mean yea, that is a part of athleticism, being big, strong, and fast. If you have a guy 6'5, 266 running a 4.53, 40... that is a superior athlete. Mike Trout is an incredible athlete also and very fast... but Clowney is on a level of athleticism that very few people can be. There's tons of small guys that can run as fast as Mike Trout and there's even more than can run faster than Manziel. I mean some fatty like Prince Fielder can hit a ball out of the park. That doesn't determine athleticism. Yea, a part of the strength does. But when you are talking about pure athleticism hitting a baseball is not part of the equation.
That's why at the combine those numbers are so important. And the fact you don't understand how big of a difference a tenth of a second is tells me all I need to know.
Manziel being as athletic as Vick, lmao!! Where do you guys come from?
What are you talking about? Why do you keep bringing race in to this? Johnny Manziel is not a special athlete... there is nothing about his 5'11, 206lb, 4.63, 40 that scares opposing teams athletically. His scrambling and quarterbacking might, but no one thinks of him as a superior athlete except for you guys. Very strange debate. Especially equating his athleticism to Michael Vick. What is wrong with you guys?
We are talking about two similar size players. And yes speed has a lot to do with athleticism. You think Johnny Manziel is superior in strength and other athletic abilities than Vick? What would those be, lol? And yes Lebron is a superior athlete because of his size and speed. There is literally nothing superior about Johnny Manziel's athletic ability. He is pretty much a clone size/athletic wise as Russell Wilson. Fast enough to get big yards in the open field, quick enough to get out of the pocket and create plays, and good enough to extend drives. But it's not like he has Vick/RG3 speed.
