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Sid Roth explains his experience with the demonic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5BIT0-gH53fkC&q=sid+roth+&hl=en20&hl=en&emb=0
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5BIT0-gH53fkC&q=sid+roth+&hl=en20&hl=en&emb=0
QL only if you are right and xfro is wrong. Thanks for the good wishes!
At least in Judaism no one would dare to say if you're not Jewish you're going to hell.
Amazes me how many Christians show no tolerance for Jews yet fail to realize without Judaism there is no Christianity. Jews were first to embrace the one God concept. I'm not saying the Jews are right but before the Jews people bowed down to golden idols. And the Romans and the Greeks had a different god for every event in nature.
Now obviously they were wrong. A golden calf is not God, and there's no god of fire, god of thunder, and god of the clitoral orgasm, etc.
But anyone in modern times who proclaims, "Accept my God as truth or you will go to hell," is a condescending fool!
At least in Judaism no one would dare to say if you're not Jewish you're going to hell.
Amazes me how many Christians show no tolerance for Jews yet fail to realize without Judaism there is no Christianity. Jews were first to embrace the one God concept. I'm not saying the Jews are right but before the Jews people bowed down to golden idols. And the Romans and the Greeks had a different god for every event in nature.
Now obviously they were wrong. A golden calf is not God, and there's no god of fire, god of thunder, and god of the clitoral orgasm, etc.
But anyone in modern times who proclaims, "Accept my God as truth or you will go to hell," is a condescending fool!
Actually, you might be very surprised to find out how many Catholics (like myself) and Protestants do NOT believe in the idea of supersessionsism. In fact, the Catholic Church has now backed down on 'replacement ideology', thank God. Let me make this very clear to you... In no way whatsoever do I believe that the New Testament supercedes or replaces the Torah, period. In the Christian sense of the word, "salvation" is not necessary for Jews as their path to God is guaranteed in the Torah. It's only Gentiles that need saving and only through Christ can we be saved. Jews needn't be concerned with this issue.
As for Evangelicals, which many Jews are fearful of, it's paranoia driven by liberal media sensation (who wish to divide Jews and Christians) that Evangelicals want to convert you. The best friend of a Jew is an Evangelical, since Evangelicals are the most loyal group to Israel and the survival of Jews. In fact, Evangelicals on the whole are FAR more loyal to Israel than most Jews are, especially Jews in the western world, as the majority of western Jews belong to the Reform movement and don't believe in Zionism. It's true that Evangelicals believe that the survival of Israel is critical for the Second Coming to be possible, but that doesn't discount their efforts towards the Jewish state and its people.
The way I see it is this... The God Christians worship is a Jew, thus it's the most "Jewish" thing one can do by accepting a Jew as their Saviour. Any true believer is a Jew first before a Christian.
Thanks for the post HK. I know not all evangelicals believe in the "One last chance to convert before you burn Jew!" concept.
Your point about the redefinition of the word evangelical reminds me of the way many anti-Semites have turned 'Zionism' into a curseword. Zionism simply means the Jews are entitled to a home, no more.
Anyway, I've posted here before crediting Christian support for Israel. Here is a site I've had bookmarked for years:
http://christianactionforisrael.org/
The Jerusalem Post has a great Christian section.
Your point about the redefinition of the word evangelical reminds me of the way many anti-Semites have turned 'Zionism' into a curseword. Zionism simply means the Jews are entitled to a home, no more.
Anyway, I've posted here before crediting Christian support for Israel. Here is a site I've had bookmarked for years:
http://christianactionforisrael.org/
The Jerusalem Post has a great Christian section.
No problem. Just wasn't sure from your post whether you might be getting sucked-in by the typical vitriol of the media who'd love nothing more than to drive a wedge between Christians and Jews. It's really sick what they try and do. That's an excellent site to reference btw.
I couldn't agree more with your point about the bastardization of the terms 'Evangelical' and 'Zionism' when both should have neutral connotations. Again, we have the media to thank for this, as they continue to slander both groups on a daily basis and instead take the side of the enemy. From there it all filters down. You even see it here in this very section of the forum every day when liberal, God-hating atheists call other members "Evangelicals" and "Zionists" with the intention of insulting them. It really is disgusting. If I wanted to hear that garbage, I'd turn on the TV and listen to that Nazi Ahmadinejad who liberals everywhere secretly idolize and side with. I'm sorry to say this, but it deeply sickens me when we see the liberal Rabbi's kissing this man's cheek, it's unbelievable to me.
Just remember this, no matter what you hear and no matter what level of paranoia others may try forcing onto you, take heed in the fact that the good Evangelicals in this world are fighting every single day for the safety of the Jewish state and its people. Nothing will ever change that.
Question: "Are Jews saved because they are God's chosen people? Do Jews have to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved?"
Answer: Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me” (John 14:6). The “no one” He referred to includes Jews and Gentiles. Jews are not saved because they are God’s chosen people, but because they believe in Jesus Christ as their true Messiah. There are many Messianic Jews who have accepted Yeshua (the Hebrew word for Jesus) as their Messiah.
Answer: Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me” (John 14:6). The “no one” He referred to includes Jews and Gentiles. Jews are not saved because they are God’s chosen people, but because they believe in Jesus Christ as their true Messiah. There are many Messianic Jews who have accepted Yeshua (the Hebrew word for Jesus) as their Messiah.
Yes, Jews have to believe in their messiah just like everyone else. God loves them just like everyone else. They have a special purpose, but only those who accept Jesus Christ will be able to fulfill it when all is said and done.
Sid Roth is a Jew who has accepted Christ. They call themselves Messianic Jews.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5BIT0-gH53fkC&q=sid+roth+&hl=en20&hl=en&emb=0
Sid Roth is a Jew who has accepted Christ. They call themselves Messianic Jews.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...5BIT0-gH53fkC&q=sid+roth+&hl=en20&hl=en&emb=0
Sorry Rail and frodo, I respectfully disagree with you after much theological study of the Torah. What you have to understand is that a path to God was guaranteed to Jews in the Torah. The notion of "salvation" is a New Testament idea that applies only to Gentiles. Again, I don't believe in supersessionism but you guys apparently do(?). That's fine, as many, many good Christians still do all around the world.
At the same time, many of these same Chrisitans have never so much as opened their Old Testament nor do their Churches encourage them to do so. Just because some Jews have accepted Christ as their Saviour (which makes them converted Christians for an intents and purposes), does not mean that Jews *must* do so. The acceptance of Christ as Saviour by non-Gentiles (i.e. Jews) is certainly one's right, but not required by OT law.
You can list a thousand Jews here who've accepted Christ as their Saviour, and I can list current Catholic and Protestant doctrine that abandons the idea of replacement theology. Granted, this is perhaps the most hotly debated Biblical issue today, but I encourage you both to at least begin reading into the matter.
At the same time, many of these same Chrisitans have never so much as opened their Old Testament nor do their Churches encourage them to do so. Just because some Jews have accepted Christ as their Saviour (which makes them converted Christians for an intents and purposes), does not mean that Jews *must* do so. The acceptance of Christ as Saviour by non-Gentiles (i.e. Jews) is certainly one's right, but not required by OT law.
You can list a thousand Jews here who've accepted Christ as their Saviour, and I can list current Catholic and Protestant doctrine that abandons the idea of replacement theology. Granted, this is perhaps the most hotly debated Biblical issue today, but I encourage you both to at least begin reading into the matter.
LOL at the preceding dozen posts.
Never gets old reading various sects of Fundy Xtians quibbling over who will or will not receive God's post-life Golden Ticket.
psssst.....God promises us all - without exception - eternal life, love and forgivness as we proceed along the never-ending path of existence.
We now return you to your regular programming - "I'm Going To Heaven - But What About YOU??"
Never gets old reading various sects of Fundy Xtians quibbling over who will or will not receive God's post-life Golden Ticket.
psssst.....God promises us all - without exception - eternal life, love and forgivness as we proceed along the never-ending path of existence.
We now return you to your regular programming - "I'm Going To Heaven - But What About YOU??"
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