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GoSooners,
I've see line moves on games after several different people post, likely those who are tailed by a few heavy hitters here. That amounts to several different posters here too. Maybe it's just coincidence, but it's happened about 20 times that I've seen so far this season. FWIW, I've also seen some sportswriters follow up a post here making the same points the next day after. That's also a maybe thing but I think there's been some influence, even if only a fraction of the "coincidences" are not coincidences.
This is the biggest and most well-known board in the business.
I've see line moves on games after several different people post, likely those who are tailed by a few heavy hitters here. That amounts to several different posters here too. Maybe it's just coincidence, but it's happened about 20 times that I've seen so far this season. FWIW, I've also seen some sportswriters follow up a post here making the same points the next day after. That's also a maybe thing but I think there's been some influence, even if only a fraction of the "coincidences" are not coincidences.
This is the biggest and most well-known board in the business.
Boise St. at San Jose St...This looks like a game that could possibly deterim the WAC title..So there will be alot on the line tonight..Both teams are playing good defense..Especially San Jose, who is giving up less than 300 ypg on defense..Almost unheard of for a WAC team. After watching Boise last week, this just doesn't seem like the same Boise team to me..What happened to the team who would regularly lay 50 points on their opponents on the Smurf Turf? This season they haven't had one game against division 1 opponents where they've even scored 40 points. San Jose on the other hand has played consistently well in every game this year..Even in their losses to their two BCS conference opponents Nebraska and Stanford, they were in both of those games in the 4th quarter. They outgained the Huskers..And they were within 6 of Stanford in the closing minutes until the Cards added a meaningless junk TD in the closing seconds. SJST's strength of schdeule has been more difficult than Boise. They've had to go on the road 4 times this year, to Boise's two. Now they get Boise at home where SJST has been double tough over the years..Especially when Boise comes to town. They lost by 3 to a better Boise team last time at home..And took Boise into overtime the time before that..I can easily see the same kind of game here...Plus did I mention I'm a BIG fan of Dick Tomey? SJST is also the potential "running dogs" here.. Taking San Jose (+7.5) over Boise State **
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I just went to get some of the under on the OSU vs Texas game and it's 68!!! Son of a bitch!!! It's game for game when the top players in here post, the line just cruises to compensate. It seemed far fetched at first but I have to agree Conan.
Not to be "that guy" and I hate when people do this but GS do you like it still at 68?
Not to be "that guy" and I hate when people do this but GS do you like it still at 68?
Bodog has it at 69..I would probably still try to get it at that number. However I wouldn't want it to go any lower..How you feel about the under may depend on how you feel about how the game is going to go..Personally I think OSU has a good chance to cover this number..I'm just waiting and hoping it will go up to 13.5 someplace, so I can buy the half a point and take OSU at 14. If OSU covers this spread, it probably means their running the ball well on Texas and owning the time of possession. Which should lead to a little lower scoring game...Good luck
I believe this is my first post. I look at your post for great information and believe your a great capper.
Just a question on this game. I thought you would pick Boise tonight. I know boise's offense isn't the same, but defense seems to be better than ever. Expect Oregon, they haven't allowed double digits to any team. While SJSU seems like a live dog, but they needed 6 TO's from Hawaii to win by 3, needed two pick 6 to make the score look worse than it was with New Mexico St. They were also outgained both times. Also only 50 passing yards against New Mexico St.
Take out the San Diego St. game (since they suck and everybody runs on them) SJSU averages just above 100 ypg rushing the ball and this isn't against great defenses.
One more thing, they only scored once (TD or field goal) when they started the drive on their side of the field against Hawaii and New Mexico St.
I know Boise isn't the same offense, but this year, they got a defense they haven't had in the past. Boise doesn't make mistakes and I don't think SJSU scores much, if at all, long as Boise doesn't turn it over many times.
Last year, even though it was at Boise, 42-7. And Boise was the one with 2 TO's. Don't think things changed too much since that game.
Just wondering what you thought because I hate it when I bet agaisnt you. lol.
Oh, and best of luck.
Just a question on this game. I thought you would pick Boise tonight. I know boise's offense isn't the same, but defense seems to be better than ever. Expect Oregon, they haven't allowed double digits to any team. While SJSU seems like a live dog, but they needed 6 TO's from Hawaii to win by 3, needed two pick 6 to make the score look worse than it was with New Mexico St. They were also outgained both times. Also only 50 passing yards against New Mexico St.
Take out the San Diego St. game (since they suck and everybody runs on them) SJSU averages just above 100 ypg rushing the ball and this isn't against great defenses.
One more thing, they only scored once (TD or field goal) when they started the drive on their side of the field against Hawaii and New Mexico St.
I know Boise isn't the same offense, but this year, they got a defense they haven't had in the past. Boise doesn't make mistakes and I don't think SJSU scores much, if at all, long as Boise doesn't turn it over many times.
Last year, even though it was at Boise, 42-7. And Boise was the one with 2 TO's. Don't think things changed too much since that game.
Just wondering what you thought because I hate it when I bet agaisnt you. lol.
Oh, and best of luck.
Wyoming at TCU...Statistically the best defense in the nation TCU (allowing less than 1 ypc) against the worst scoring offense in the nation Wyoming. Wyoming is so bad that within their own conference they've scored only 3, 0, 0 & 7 points in their 4 games. Now a team with a -22 turnover margin (worst in the country by far) will have to face a defense with a +8 turnover margin..We're talking about a whopping +30 TO margin difference between these teams. The widest margin that I've ever seen. TCU won't have to score many points here on offense to cover..Their defense might actually score more points in this game. Wyoming has a lame duck coach going on the road where they've been outscored by an average score of 36-2. And this was against much inferior defenses to TCU. The line right now is at 30.5..I predict TCU just needs to score 31 points to cover this...This Wyoming team hasn't covered the spread in 13 months! I'm taking TCU (-30.5) over Wyoming **
USC at Arizona...If there was one game I thought USC might lose on the road this year it was this one. But Oregon State beat them to it..What it does is still show the vulnerabilty of this USC on the road in the PAC-10. Last year alone they had 3 games on the road that were decided by a TD or less. Including a loss to Oregon. Now their playing an up and coming Arizona team who is starting to grow up and get better on defense..I thought in looking at the teams this summer that Arizona had a chance to be one of the surprise teams in the country..And I still do. Their in the second year of Sonny Dykes offensive system. And with the help of RB freshman Keola Antolin (149 yards rushing last week), this is now a very balanced offense. When USC played OSU I was very surprised at the way the Trojans defensive front got pushed around by the Beavers..If Arizona can do even half this good I believe they can keep it within the number. This is a big game for Arizona in many ways. First a win would mean a rating in the polls for the first time this year. Second it would make them bowl eligible..And third and most important for Stoops, it would allow him to keep his job for at least one more year. This should be a hell of a matchup between Zona's offense vs USC's defense. The Cats have given USC some good games under Stoops. And I like the backbone this team showed in coming from behind to beat Cal last week..I believe the momentum carries over here...Taking Arizona (+15) over USC **
Alabama at Tennessee...Needless to say this has been a disappointing season for the Vols. More so on the offensive side of the ball than the defense, who is giving up only 267 ypg. Including only 96 ypg rushing..And this is the problem I have with Bama in this game..Their bread and butter is running the ball. When Tennessee slows the rush what are they going to do? Rely on John Parker Wilson and his pultry 162 yards passing per game to beat one of the best secondaries in the country? I can't see it. This is a game about matchups. And I don't think Bama's offense matches up well at all against the Vols defense..It's true the Fulmer is sitting on the hotseat. But I don't see any quit in this team judging by the 34-3 win over MSU last week..Bama on the other hand has struggled the last 2 weeks against two bottom to middle of the road SEC teams. Both at home..Now they take to the road to face a Vols team with their backs against the wall. And they get a chance to knock off the number 2 team in the nation and possibly save Fulmer's job. This isn't too different than Stoops and the Arizona situation. Except instead of great offense, with the Vols you get a stout defense playing at home getting points..Tennessee could very well be the running dogs here..This is an SEC game..And with the exception of maybe Florida, I don't see anybody in this conference who is head and shoulders better than anybody else. And nobody has any business giving almost a TD on the road in what should be a defensive battle...Taking Tennessee (+6) over Bama ***
USC at Arizona...If there was one game I thought USC might lose on the road this year it was this one. But Oregon State beat them to it..What it does is still show the vulnerabilty of this USC on the road in the PAC-10. Last year alone they had 3 games on the road that were decided by a TD or less. Including a loss to Oregon. Now their playing an up and coming Arizona team who is starting to grow up and get better on defense..I thought in looking at the teams this summer that Arizona had a chance to be one of the surprise teams in the country..And I still do. Their in the second year of Sonny Dykes offensive system. And with the help of RB freshman Keola Antolin (149 yards rushing last week), this is now a very balanced offense. When USC played OSU I was very surprised at the way the Trojans defensive front got pushed around by the Beavers..If Arizona can do even half this good I believe they can keep it within the number. This is a big game for Arizona in many ways. First a win would mean a rating in the polls for the first time this year. Second it would make them bowl eligible..And third and most important for Stoops, it would allow him to keep his job for at least one more year. This should be a hell of a matchup between Zona's offense vs USC's defense. The Cats have given USC some good games under Stoops. And I like the backbone this team showed in coming from behind to beat Cal last week..I believe the momentum carries over here...Taking Arizona (+15) over USC **
Alabama at Tennessee...Needless to say this has been a disappointing season for the Vols. More so on the offensive side of the ball than the defense, who is giving up only 267 ypg. Including only 96 ypg rushing..And this is the problem I have with Bama in this game..Their bread and butter is running the ball. When Tennessee slows the rush what are they going to do? Rely on John Parker Wilson and his pultry 162 yards passing per game to beat one of the best secondaries in the country? I can't see it. This is a game about matchups. And I don't think Bama's offense matches up well at all against the Vols defense..It's true the Fulmer is sitting on the hotseat. But I don't see any quit in this team judging by the 34-3 win over MSU last week..Bama on the other hand has struggled the last 2 weeks against two bottom to middle of the road SEC teams. Both at home..Now they take to the road to face a Vols team with their backs against the wall. And they get a chance to knock off the number 2 team in the nation and possibly save Fulmer's job. This isn't too different than Stoops and the Arizona situation. Except instead of great offense, with the Vols you get a stout defense playing at home getting points..Tennessee could very well be the running dogs here..This is an SEC game..And with the exception of maybe Florida, I don't see anybody in this conference who is head and shoulders better than anybody else. And nobody has any business giving almost a TD on the road in what should be a defensive battle...Taking Tennessee (+6) over Bama ***
I think things have changed quite a bit from last season. Boise is only returning 12 starters off of that team. And they don't have the explosive offense that they've had in the past. SJST on the other hand is playing better on defense this year compared to last. And I always like to see good well coached defensive teams getting more than a TD at home in a big game. SJST's numbers aren't going to be as good as Boise because they've played a tougher schedule. The only thing that concerns me about SJST is their offense and their ability to move the ball in this game against a good Boise defense.. That's why I only made this a small play. I look for a defensive game..And this is the best defense than Boise has played on the road this year..We'll see if their freshman QB can handle it without making mistakes....Good luck. And welcome to the RX.
GS - what makes you think UT can stop they run? They haven't done it all year against real teams. As for UTs win last week. It was very deceptive. 2 pick 6's and several MSU miscues kept that game from being closer on the scoreboard. Remember, it was 6-3 at the half.
I know a kid that plays for Bama (as I posted before the UGA game) and spoke with his father this afternoon. This Bama team is ready for this game. I think you are way off in this game and Bama throttles UT. 31-13
I know a kid that plays for Bama (as I posted before the UGA game) and spoke with his father this afternoon. This Bama team is ready for this game. I think you are way off in this game and Bama throttles UT. 31-13
What do you mean they haven't stopped the run against real teams? They held Georgia to just 3 ypc on the road and Florida to just 3.5 ypc and 240 total yards..Is Bama better than Florida on offense? I don't think so. And they don't have as good a QB as Georgia or Florida either. I even got Tennessee for a bet on the ML..I think they win the game outright...I also wouldn't bet on a team because a player says their ready..That's just silly..It would be a bigger surprise if he said they weren't ready to play...You think Tennessee isn't ready to play?
Texas-OSU (UNDER 71) **
Missouri (-22) over Colorado **
Kansas (-1) over Texas Tech *
Nebraska (-11) over Baylor **
Ga Tech (-12) over Virginia **** (Best Bet)
Purdue (PK) over Minnesota ***
Rutgers (+9.5) over Pitt **
Tulane (-2) over Rice **
Auburn (+3) over West Virginia ** (Loss)
Michigan (+4) over Michigan State ***
San Jose (+7.5) over Boise St. **
TCU (-30.5) over Wyoming **
Arizona (+15) over USC **
Tennessee (+6) over Alabama ***
Missouri (-22) over Colorado **
Kansas (-1) over Texas Tech *
Nebraska (-11) over Baylor **
Ga Tech (-12) over Virginia **** (Best Bet)
Purdue (PK) over Minnesota ***
Rutgers (+9.5) over Pitt **
Tulane (-2) over Rice **
Auburn (+3) over West Virginia ** (Loss)
Michigan (+4) over Michigan State ***
San Jose (+7.5) over Boise St. **
TCU (-30.5) over Wyoming **
Arizona (+15) over USC **
Tennessee (+6) over Alabama ***
I didnt bet bec of my friend. I use him for insight into their team. As I have said repeatedly on this board (to much debate I might add) Tennessee just isnt very good.
UF ran for 160
AU for 120
UGA for 165
MSU for 105
Not exactly lighting it up on defense. I think Bama is a lot like UGA running the ball, but with a better OL. As for UF, the Gators have only played one good game all year. Also, against the Vols, UF had a short field for most of the game thanks to Brandon James. He had 150yds in returns - that's a lot of hidden ydg.
Bama isn't better on offense. What they do is just different. I think the Vols will struggle to cover Bama's WRs and they certainly wont stop Bama running. They will wear out making it easier to run late and drain the clock.
I've watched UT in every game this year. They haven't even come close to looking good. We all watched Auburn last night and they LOST to that team. They scored a whole 13pts against No Illinois and lost to a rookie 3rd string QB at UCLA. There is nothing redeeming about this team. I know most teams are due to have "that" game, but I just dont think this UT team is capable. Add in that their only threat on O is out and that makes it all the more improbable (which is why Berry is probably going to play O).
JMO, but I've been right about these guys all year long. Maybe Im due for a loss now! LOL
UF ran for 160
AU for 120
UGA for 165
MSU for 105
Not exactly lighting it up on defense. I think Bama is a lot like UGA running the ball, but with a better OL. As for UF, the Gators have only played one good game all year. Also, against the Vols, UF had a short field for most of the game thanks to Brandon James. He had 150yds in returns - that's a lot of hidden ydg.
Bama isn't better on offense. What they do is just different. I think the Vols will struggle to cover Bama's WRs and they certainly wont stop Bama running. They will wear out making it easier to run late and drain the clock.
I've watched UT in every game this year. They haven't even come close to looking good. We all watched Auburn last night and they LOST to that team. They scored a whole 13pts against No Illinois and lost to a rookie 3rd string QB at UCLA. There is nothing redeeming about this team. I know most teams are due to have "that" game, but I just dont think this UT team is capable. Add in that their only threat on O is out and that makes it all the more improbable (which is why Berry is probably going to play O).
JMO, but I've been right about these guys all year long. Maybe Im due for a loss now! LOL
I don't know where your getting your stats at. But there off. Here are the true stats of those games:
Auburn 38 carries for 97 yards (about 2.5 per carry)
Georgia 45 carries for 148 (about 3 ypc)
Florida 39 carries for 147 (about 3.5 per carry)
Listen, you could very well be right about this game...But the numbers tell me a different story..I also think these SEC teams play alot tougher at home..And it's much more difficult on these QB's on the road in trying to call audibles..Especially if their team is behind. If Tennessee shuts down the Bama run game it puts that much more pressure on QB Wilson. Bama hasn't been dominate at all even at home against average competetion. I can see them thowing in one bad game..But Bama has played two games like that..They seem to be regressing since that big win over georgia...I also wonder how good this Bama defense is going to be without their best man Cody..Without him in the lineup I think Tennessee might have a chance to get their run game going against Bama like Ole Miss did last week (38 rushes for 158 yards for 4 ypc average). If the Vols can do the same thing it will be another tight game like last week.
