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espn alway has it right

Thanks Ace - I checked ESPN and they also show -1 for time for Indy week 4 (28:47 time of possession). Am I reading this wrong? Sorry to keep bothering you on this - I just want to make sure my own calculations are correct because I am going to do this for the season. Thanks again.
 

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QOH/Ace, this is what I get for INDIANAPOLIS using 75% (week3) and 25% (week4) divided by 2:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


.......line....lineoff......to loff....time.....to time......pen yds....TO to

+3.06....-10.0......-10.0.....-2.75....-2.75.......47.6........ 1.5

week 3 stats:
+6........ .....-7........ ........116........4

week 4 stats:
+6.5....... .....-1........ .......30..........0

week 3 and 4 stats only show= line......time........pen yds.......TO

now it does not seem to match the other peoples numbers am I doing something wrong? :ohno:##) Help please! THX
 

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IND Turnover week 3: 4
....................week 4: 0

week 3......... 4 x 75% = 3
week 4......... 0 x 25% = 0

3 + 0 = 3.......... 3/2 = 1.5 for turnover total,.............. this is how I got Indianapolis turnover total is this wright or wrong?
 

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my mistake...I got 3 t/o for Ind

time the 3rd week game was -7 times75=-5.5 week 4 it was +1 times 25% +.25...so -5.5 +.25 =-5

Ace; this is my calculations for Indianapolis based on 75% week 3 and 25% week 4 and then divided by 2 to get my preseason average for Indianapolis to start for week 1 is this correct or am I doing something wrong?

...............wk...line...lne/off...tot/lnoff...time...pen/yds...TO...score

pre 3....+6..../////....../////////...-7......116.....4....24-59
pre 4....+6.5..////....../////////...-1.......30......0.....28-30

75% 3....+4.5..-21.75..////////...-5.25...87......3......18-44
25% 4....+1.6..+ 1.1...////////....-0.25...7.5.....0......7-7.5

3/4 avg/2 ....+3.05...-10.3..///////....-2.75...47.3...-1.5.../////


final to
start .......+3.5......-10...-10......-2.75.....47.3....-1.5
week
1

Ace, now is this the correct way of doing this or am I way OUT in the endzone?? Thanks for your help and time:ohno:##):ohno:##)
 

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Hello QOH I am working on my sheets and trying to learn how to work My Line. I have beenn following ACE for a long time and want to thank you for the interviews. You suggested that I go to covers to get lines for pre season weeks 3 and 4. My question is sometimes there is a minus in front of line and sometimes not. I take this as when the minus is there that is the favorite and when it's not that is the dog. If I look at Pre Season week 4 at the Cincinnati and Indianapolis Game here is what I see.

Cincinnati -6 1/2 Final Score 30 - 28 Line OFF -4.5 Right?
Indianapolis +6 1/2 Final Score 28 - 30 Line OFF +4.5 Right?
 

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Hey folks! Im new to this post and have been trying to figure out this MYLINE formula. Once you get all the info for each team start with weeks 3 and 4 in preseason 2010, what do you do with the numbers? We are in week one. lets take the Saints and Viking for example. What is the MYLINE fot this game. ACE or the lovely QOH break this down for me? Thanks. Im learning slowly but surely :)
 

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If Arizona's line is off 8 1/2 week 1 then off 6 the next week the total Line Off is 14 1/2 ? Does the stop 10 only come into play on the weekly Line Off? Team A is +6 and wins by 20 = +26 for the week, we record +10 instead?
 

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Hello QOH I am working on my sheets and trying to learn how to work My Line. I have beenn following ACE for a long time and want to thank you for the interviews. You suggested that I go to covers to get lines for pre season weeks 3 and 4. My question is sometimes there is a minus in front of line and sometimes not. I take this as when the minus is there that is the favorite and when it's not that is the dog. If I look at Pre Season week 4 at the Cincinnati and Indianapolis Game here is what I see.

Cincinnati -6 1/2 Final Score 30 - 28 Line OFF -4.5 Right?
Indianapolis +6 1/2 Final Score 28 - 30 Line OFF +4.5 Right?


That is correct !

Final
Cincinnati at Indianapolis
TeamsROT1234TOddsBet FinalCIN 10560141030-6.5Over: 58IND 106067152836.5Cover: +4.5


Team Stats

BengalsColtsFirst downs1120Rushes-Yards24-15828-91Passing Yards236279Sacked-Yards lost1-83-13Return Yardage219161Passing23-31-019-38-0Punts-Average7-40.99-47.0Fumbles-Lost1-11-0Penalties-Yards11-993-30Field Goals3-32-2Red Zone Efficiency1-2-50% 1-3-33% Goal To Go Efficiency0-0-0% 1-1-100% Time of Possession31 : 1328 : 47

Bengals (3 - 2)
Passing CP/ATTYDSTDINTJordan Palmer 10/1411420J.T. O'Sullivan 9/1210200Carson Palmer 4/52800



Colts (0 - 4)
Passing CP/ATTYDSTDINTTom Brandstater 10/1817830Curtis Painter 9/2011400



that is all you need ...

make 32 sheets ..1 for each team .
very very easy ....it takes time at first ..after a few weeks ..it becomes like clock work in your head....


Good luck !!
 

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That is correct !

Final
Cincinnati at Indianapolis
TeamsROT1234TOddsBet FinalCIN 10560141030-6.5Over: 58IND 106067152836.5Cover: +4.5


Team Stats

BengalsColtsFirst downs1120Rushes-Yards24-15828-91Passing Yards236279Sacked-Yards lost1-83-13Return Yardage219161Passing23-31-019-38-0Punts-Average7-40.99-47.0Fumbles-Lost1-11-0Penalties-Yards11-993-30Field Goals3-32-2Red Zone Efficiency1-2-50% 1-3-33% Goal To Go Efficiency0-0-0% 1-1-100% Time of Possession31 : 1328 : 47

Bengals (3 - 2)
Passing CP/ATTYDSTDINTJordan Palmer 10/1411420J.T. O'Sullivan 9/1210200Carson Palmer 4/52800



Colts (0 - 4)
Passing CP/ATTYDSTDINTTom Brandstater 10/1817830Curtis Painter 9/2011400



that is all you need ...

make 32 sheets ..1 for each team .
very very easy ....it takes time at first ..after a few weeks ..it becomes like clock work in your head....


Good luck !!



hmmm that did not come out the way I wanted it to.... Ill try another way ...
 

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If Arizona's line is off 8 1/2 week 1 then off 6 the next week the total Line Off is 14 1/2 ? Does the stop 10 only come into play on the weekly Line Off? Team A is +6 and wins by 20 = +26 for the week, we record +10 instead?


iIf ARZ is -6 and they lose by 3. that is -9
if ARZ is -6 and they win by 10 that is +4

refer back to post #1 -#25 and you will most likely figure it out ...

Ill try and help you all that I can ...but the season is starting and I am getting very busy.

post your questions and Ill do my best to answer them ....







LINE-OFF
THE DIFF BETWEEN WHAT THE ODDS MAKER GIVE AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENS

LET'S TAKE(LAST WEEK GAME BETWEEN GB AND ATL....

THE LINE WAS ATL-9.....WHAT HAPPEN WAS GB WON BY 8+THE LINE9=17
"THE LINE WAS OFF 17 POINTS
THIS HAPPENS EACH WEEK AND EACH GAME

SO YOU GIVE GB A +17 IN THEIR WEEK AND YOU GIVE ATL -17 IN THEIR WEEK.....YOU DO THIS EVERY WEEK

THIS IS ATL............TOTAL

PRESEASON +10
WK1............+ 6........+16
WK2............-2..........+14
WK3............+10.......+24
WK4............+14.......+38
WK5...........-6...........+32
WK6...........-3...........+29
WK7...........+6...........+35
WK8...........BYE
WK9............+5.........+40
WK10..........-17........+23
 

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*** note***

I think the 75% week 3 and 25% week 4 really confused you guys .

All of you had it down very good except I cant figure out why Jasmine wanted to divide by 2 at the end ??????


You can also ...trash all that ...forget the 75% and the 25% if you got lost .....and start fresh week #1....NO MORE 755 OR 25% .

JUST RUN THE NUMBERS AND IT SIMPLE


start fresh week # 1 and by week 4 you have a 100% workable sheet.
 

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Hey folks! Im new to this post and have been trying to figure out this MYLINE formula. Once you get all the info for each team start with weeks 3 and 4 in preseason 2010, what do you do with the numbers? We are in week one. lets take the Saints and Viking for example. What is the MYLINE fot this game. ACE or the lovely QOH break this down for me? Thanks. Im learning slowly but surely :)


TY ..for the kind words,,,,

You do your best to try and figure out the line for yourself ...

after you show your work , myself...or 1 of these other guys will help you .

It does no good to just tell you the answer ...you have to show some innitiative...i dont mean that to be mean ,,,but its true .

By helping others learn this ...that is what makes you better at it ? does that make sense ?

you put out the effort and there are lots of good people in this thread who know what I just said is true. ACE ACE forum is all positive ..we dont do anything negative around here. .

You will see...

Im glad you found this forum
 

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That is correct !

Final
Cincinnati at Indianapolis
TeamsROT1234TOddsBet FinalCIN 10560141030-6.5Over: 58IND 106067152836.5Cover: +4.5


Team Stats

BengalsColtsFirst downs1120Rushes-Yards24-15828-91Passing Yards236279Sacked-Yards lost1-83-13Return Yardage219161Passing23-31-019-38-0Punts-Average7-40.99-47.0Fumbles-Lost1-11-0Penalties-Yards11-993-30Field Goals3-32-2Red Zone Efficiency1-2-50% 1-3-33% Goal To Go Efficiency0-0-0% 1-1-100% Time of Possession31 : 1328 : 47

Bengals (3 - 2)
Passing CP/ATTYDSTDINTJordan Palmer 10/1411420J.T. O'Sullivan 9/1210200Carson Palmer 4/52800



Colts (0 - 4)
Passing CP/ATTYDSTDINTTom Brandstater 10/1817830Curtis Painter 9/2011400





Good luck !!


I cant post it like I want to ...dang it !!!

this page has everything you need ...

http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pa.../nfl/results/2010-2011/boxscore28226.html&t=0


make 32 sheets ..1 for each team .
very very easy ....it takes time at first ..after a few weeks ..it becomes like clock work in your head....
 

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Ace; this is my calculations for Indianapolis based on 75% week 3 and 25% week 4 and then divided by 2 to get my preseason average for Indianapolis to start for week 1 is this correct or am I doing something wrong?

...............wk...line...lne/off...tot/lnoff...time...pen/yds...TO...score

pre 3....+6..../////....../////////...-7......116.....4....24-59
pre 4....+6.5..////....../////////...-1.......30......0.....28-30

75% 3....+4.5..-21.75..////////...-5.25...87......3......18-44
25% 4....+1.6..+ 1.1...////////....-0.25...7.5.....0......7-7.5

3/4 avg/2 ....+3.05...-10.3..///////....-2.75...47.3...-1.5.../////


final to
start .......+3.5......-10...-10......-2.75.....47.3....-1.5
week
1

Ace, now is this the correct way of doing this or am I way OUT in the endzone?? Thanks for your help and time:ohno:##):ohno:##)
read post # 297
 

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IND Turnover week 3: 4
....................week 4: 0

week 3......... 4 x 75% = 3
week 4......... 0 x 25% = 0

3 + 0 = 3.......... 3/2 = 1.5 for turnover total,.............. this is how I got Indianapolis turnover total is this wright or wrong?



why the last part 3/2 ?????
 

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