I just have a quick legitimate question, when is someone desperate in quick need of gun? I mean I would think if you were desperate and in quick need for a gun, you would already have one. I consider quick need is when someone is shooting at you or trying to rob you, which in those cases you don't have time to go out and buy one. People who are going to use guns as protection probably already have it.
Well, except for the fact that you can't "defend yourself" until this undefined state run testing process runs its course.
Further, since there is a precise zero correlation between the availability of guns and violent crime in America, this is a completely idiotic thing to say.
So of course you'll say it.
Among the gun-related bills signed by the governor:
-- AB48 makes it illegal to purchase the parts necessary to convert guns into assault-style weapons and requires people selling or transferring ammunition to record the identification of the buyer and report the sale to the state Department of Justice.
-- SB683 will require people who buy rifles and shotguns to first pass a written firearm safety test and obtain a certificate, just like the buyers of handguns must.
-- AB500 allows the Department of Justice to extend the waiting time to purchase a firearm if a background check can't be completed within 10 days.
-- AB170 requires assault weapon permits to be issued to individuals, rather than to partnerships, corporations or other groups.
-- AB1131 extends from six months to five years the period during which a person who threatens violence is prohibited from purchasing a firearm.
-- SB127 requires licensed psychotherapists to disclose to local law enforcement within 24 hours the identity of a person who threatens violence against a reasonably identifiable person.
The laws the governor signed will expand California's gun laws, which experts say are already the toughest in the country.
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I would post the excerpts from the gun control legislation passed in Connecticut and New York, but what would be the point? You're still a laughably ignorant goof.
Lying Ace stated Vit posted in the thread WHEN it was in the Poly Forum. He stated that as a FACT. Multiple times, in here and in the RR. Of course, as most everything that Ace Types, that was a LIE. I asked the Liar to provide some evidence that Vit posted in the thread when it was in the Poly Forum. Of Course, he couldn't, of course he can't, of course Ace ran away from the thread where he was PROVEN to have lied, yet again. He is reduced to Lying about it here. He's even Lying about what Poster slapshot said, but that's no surprise. It's who and what Ace is, and he's totally shameless about it. Vit said he posted when the thread was was in the Main Forum. Slapshot affirmed that.
Of course, that's precisely what Poster slapshot's post did. AGAIN. Just one of many posts by various posters that have Proven Ace is nothing but a shameless liar. Of course he's gutless also, as he ran like the coward he is when Vit offered to bet him, and have a mod hold the money. At this point, well he's a Liar, just like he is at every point.
1. No, they're not irrelevant. The issue of gun control is about preventing innocent people from losing their lives, correct? This just goes to show that an equal amount of damage can be done with other weapons. So why are there no calls for knife control? Your logic is akin suggesting that if a drunk driver crashes into a car and kills two people, he's responsible for killing the driver, but not the passenger.
2. It sounds like what you really want with professional shrinks is to delay someone's ability to get a gun for as long as possible. Two big problems with that: first it's not as if this Elliot Rodger loser woke up one morning and said "I think I'll go buy a gun and kill some people out of revenge today." A lot of times, mass shooters plan these events out well in advance. What difference would delaying the purchase make? Secondly, suppose a shrink gets it wrong and finds someone to be mentally unstable when they really aren't. What then? Just an unlucky break for the person who wants to buy a gun? Using Ace's example, maybe they're being stalked and are in fear for their life...during which time they probably wouldn't be the best of mental states...
1)An equal amount of damage can be done with a knife and a gun??? Come on Now.
2)No, I want them to be screened and tested by a Professional. I've already acknowledged that it's not Foolproof. But it's certainly preferable to a cop saying the kid was polite, and all is OK. Even if it screens out one Elliot Rodger, or one Aurora Shooting psycho, or one Virginia Tech nutcase, it's worth it, don't you think?
Mental Competency
The law states that you must not have been adjudicated as a mental defective, been committed to any mental institution, be under a current adjudication of incompetence, have been found by a court to be mentally ill subject to hospitalization by court order, and not be an involuntary patient other than one who is a patient only for purposes of observation.
Source OH Attorney General
http://www.eliteccw.com/html/ohio_ccw.html
As we debate the steps to reducing gun violence in the society a couple points need to be understood: 1. The link between violent crime and mental illness is weak, and 2. Mental health professionals are poor at predicting anyone’s propensity for any specific behavior, including homicide.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-gordon-livingston/guns-and-mental-health_b_2654240.html
You are comically ignorant on this topic.
Federal Law: 18 U.S.C. § 922(d),
it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”
In all 50 states and the District of Columbia there are laws making the possession of firearms by "mentally ill" people illegal.
