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Nah, I have no clue who he is. No idea about his chances to win or anything, I know Ryan has a 75% approval rating so he should win but anything is possible if he doesn't come around on The Donald. Trump has the juice right now.


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Trump has suggested the U.S. should default on our debt, and has offered a tax plan that would increase debt by $10 trillion, not counting extra interest payment on the debt. The guy is a nightmare fiscally. And somehow he says he'll balanced thr national budget, which is essentially not feasible with the little he's said about his budgetary plans. It's not possible to be a Trump supporter and claim to be a fiscal conservative.

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a growing economy (or a flailing Obama economy) decides the size of the deficit

Politicians pretend it's simple math, they pretend they actually know something, but they don't.

If our economy starts to turn around, something it hasn't done for 8 or 9 years now, our deficit will shrink

When politicians or their henchmen start making predictions, they're almost always wrong.
 
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a growing economy decides the size of the deficit

The economy isn't going to grow with the types of tariffs he's talking about. It's actually going to shrink. The saddest part is those tariffs are going to hurt poor/working class consumers the most.

I know I'm pissing in the wind with most of you trump guys but we need regulatory relief for business not tariffs to improve this economy.
 

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The economy isn't going to grow with the types of tariffs he's talking about. It's actually going to shrink. The saddest part is those tariffs are going to hurt poor/working class consumers the most.

I know I'm pissing in the wind with most of you trump guys but we need regulatory relief for business not tariffs to improve this economy.

I have to disagree with you, our economy has been in the crapper ever since the least prepared man in the room created all the economic and civil uncertainty.

Once the economic anchor is replaced, we could have a surge. We need leadership and stability and sustained consumer confidence

we haven't suffered through a worse extended period of economic malaise since the 1930's
 

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[h=6]- MAY 09, 2016 -[/h][h=1]​DONALD J. TRUMP ANNOUNCES GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE WILL SERVE AS TRANSITION TEAM CHAIRMAN[/h](New York, NY) May 9, 2016 – Today Donald J. Trump announced Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) will serve as Transition Team Chairman. Mr. Trump is the presumptive Presidential nominee for the Republican Party and continues to take critical steps to gear up for the general election against potential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, or whoever.

Mr. Trump stated, “Governor Christie is an extremely knowledgeable and loyal person with the tools and resources to put together an unparalleled Transition Team, one that will be prepared to take over the White House when we win in November. I am grateful to Governor Christie for his contributions to this movement.”

Governor Chris Christie will serve as Transition Team Chairman, overseeing an extensive team of professionals preparing to take over the White House, and all that entails, in the fall. Governor Christie has been a loyal supporter and confidant to Mr. Trump and the campaign. He has been entrusted to oversee this important task with the goal to implement this team in an official capacity in November.

Governor Christie said, “I am honored by the confidence being placed in me by Mr. Trump and look forward to putting together a first rate team to assemble an administration to help best serve the President-elect and the nation.”

Mr. Trump has begun shifting towards a general election strategy and implementing an infrastructure capable of securing a victory including making key hires, building a finance operation to benefit the Republican Party and unifying the party by working with several Republican leaders now voicing their support for Mr. Trump and his candidacy.


All press inquiries should be directed to:
Jackie Halldow, Director of Communications,
Governor Chris Christie. (609) 777-2237
 

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I have to disagree with you, our economy has been in the crapper ever since the least prepared man in the room created all the economic and civil uncertainty.

Once the economic anchor is replaced, we could have a surge. We need leadership and stability and sustained consumer confidence

we haven't suffered through a worse extended period of economic malaise since the 1930's

Does leadership and consumer confidence help? Sure, but policy is going to be far more important. Obama leaving office alone isn't going to magically get our economy to grow. If Trump implements the type of policies he's talked about it, it's going to hurt the economy. It's especially going to crush the poor.
 
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Beets, can you chill with some of the rapid fire meme posting in every thread? It makes it nearly impossible to have real discussions with people.
 

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Beets, can you chill with some of the rapid fire meme posting in every thread? It makes it nearly impossible to have real discussions with people.

every conversation in every thread gets lost down here, and it's not because of beets
 
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every conversation in every thread gets lost down here, and it's not because of beets

It's certainly not the only reason, or even the biggest reason, but it doesn't help. I have nothing against beets, that's why I asked nicely. I'd prefer not to have to hunt through 5 consecutive memes to find actual posts. Just my opinion. The fact that you dislike me and my opinions doesn't mean I have to stop sharing them.
 

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NAFTA is good policy even for all its warts.

So is free trade. There will always be populism from the Trump/Sanders axis because the downside of trade disproportionately hurts a large number of people in a small area, while the upside helps everyone across the entire population much more incrementally.

There are tremendous amounts of comparative advantages built up in the global economy. You're not going to change that with tariffs. The best you can do is make it easy to do business in the US, retrain people accordingly and facilitate the acquiring of skilled labor.

The 1950's are over, the world isn't on fire anymore. The US doesn't have the global hegemony in commerce like it used to. We need to adapt and have a forward looking vision.

The fact of the matter is automation and productivity have skyrocketed in manufacturing domestically since NAFTA was signed. And those gains are only going to accelerate going forward with newer technologies like additive manufacturing, nano-tech, automation and robotics. Manufacturing labor is not going to be the way to expand the job force going forward besides in some smaller areas (also agree w/ a lot of Trump's immigration stuff for reasons unrelated to what he is saying, I do think some population control is probably necessary going forward. You don't need tomato pickers when a machine can do it and importing people to do nothing is probably bad policy)

Yeah the changes have been disruptive and it isn't fair to everyone but people need to stop blaming a few politicians for these issues and realize that structural changes are underway and cannot be reversed. 50% of the population used to work in agriculture and crops, now 1% do and food takes up about 1/3rd of a family budget as it used to. Efficiency and technology are our greatest allies to prosperity. Yes it sucks people are being displaced and their livelihoods are being challenged but dynamism and creative destruction leading to innovation is necessary. There are way too many areas of the economy where we eschew long-term solutions for short-term interest (think not developing nuclear power since 3Mile)

The intersection of globalism and technology is the #1 economic issue going forward (maybe resource scarcity but that is another topic for another time and tends to tie in anyway) ..
 
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NAFTA is good policy even for all its warts.

So is free trade. There will always be populism from the Trump/Sanders axis because the downside of trade disproportionately hurts a large number of people in a small area, while the upside helps everyone across the entire population much more incrementally.

There are tremendous amounts of comparative advantages built up in the global economy. You're not going to change that with tariffs. The best you can do is make it easy to do business in the US, retrain people accordingly and facilitate the acquiring of skilled labor.

The 1950's are over, the world isn't on fire anymore. The US doesn't have the global hegemony in commerce like it used to. We need to adapt and have a forward looking vision.

The fact of the matter is automation and productivity have skyrocketed in manufacturing domestically since NAFTA was signed. And those gains are only going to accelerate going forward with newer technologies like additive manufacturing, nano-tech, automation and robotics. Manufacturing labor is not going to be the way to expand the job force going forward besides in some smaller areas (also agree w/ a lot of Trump's immigration stuff for reasons unrelated to what he is saying, I do think some population control is probably necessary going forward. You don't need tomato pickers when a machine can do it and importing people to do nothing is probably bad policy)

Yeah the changes have been disruptive and it isn't fair to everyone but people need to stop blaming a few politicians for these issues and realize that structural changes are underway and cannot be reversed. 50% of the population used to work in agriculture and crops, now 1% do and food takes up about 1/3rd of a family budget as it used to. Efficiency and technology are our greatest allies to prosperity. Yes it sucks people are being displaced and their livelihoods are being challenged but dynamism and creative destruction leading to innovation is necessary. There are way too many areas of the economy where we eschew long-term solutions for short-term interest (think not developing nuclear power since 3Mile)

The intersection of globalism and technology is the #1 economic issue going forward (maybe resource scarcity but that is another topic for another time and tends to tie in anyway) ..

Very good post.
 

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It's certainly not the only reason, or even the biggest reason, but it doesn't help. I have nothing against beets, that's why I asked nicely. I'd prefer not to have to hunt through 5 consecutive memes to find actual posts. Just my opinion. The fact that you dislike me and my opinions doesn't mean I have to stop sharing them.

what? where did that come from?

I thought I was agreeing with you

damn, sometimes I just cants get nuttin right
 

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