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Journeyman said:
My favorite early tag team, Tony Atlas and Kevin Sullivan before Sullivan went completely nuts...both were squeaky clean and in reality both were pretty 'out there' as it turned out.

As a kid I grew up with the AWA Mad dog vachon used to give me nightmares.

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No better wrestling venue then the sportatorium in Dallas Texas, that had to be a hard ticket to get into see world class championship wrestling..

When I was an undergrad at the University of South Carolina WCW and a few other smaller promotions used to run shows regularly at the Township Auditorium in Columbia. Another great wrestling venue....one of the best was this small promotion (I think Ricky Steamboat was involved with it financially for a time) called South Atlantic Pro Wrestling. I remember going to one show and there must have been no more than 100 people there. Everyone on the card worked their a*s off like it was Wrestlemania. That was one of the best wrestling cards I ever attended--Ricky Steamboat, Vince Torrelli (better known to the world as MMA legend Ken Shamrock), Robert Fuller aka "The Tennessee Stud", the Nasty Boys, and a bunch of others.

My ex-wife, whom I was dating at the time, used to actually tolerate my enthusiasm for the "sport". She would even go with me on road trips to see shows--I remember driving to Knoxville once just because Japanese legends Kensuke Sasaki, Hiroshi Hase and The Great Muta were on the card. The main event that night was a two out of three falls match between Ric Flair and Bobby Eaton from the Midnight Express...
 

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Was this when Tony Atlas was doing his Black Superman gimmick LOL? I don't know why people liked the whole Kevin Sullivan devil workship gimmick. It was lame to me.

Kevin Sullivan always makes me laugh when I think about him pushing Beniot to do an angle between him, Beniot, and Woman who was Sullivan's wife at the time. Well soon after that angle started she became Beniots girlfriend and then wife. Cardinal rule never get your hot ass girlfriend in a wrestling angle she will leave you.
 

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No this was way back when Atlas was sporting that 27 inch waist he claimed to have...guy must have been on everything they had out back then he was freakish for the time period...this was down in Georgia when he teamed with Sullivan.

Another early favorite was Mil Mascaras...he wasn't a real regular though, he was the first guy to pin Sgt.Slaughter (in da gah-den) they showed that one on USA too.
 

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Was this when Tony Atlas was doing his Black Superman gimmick LOL? I don't know why people liked the whole Kevin Sullivan devil workship gimmick. It was lame to me.

You have to consider the time Sullivan was doing it and where he was doing it--right smack in the middle of the Bible belt. Some really bizarre stuff--turning Mark Lewin into the "Purple Haze", having Bob Roop shave off half his hair and become "Maya Singh". IIRC, "Superstar" Billy Graham first did his shaved head, kung fu gimmick there...
 

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dmmd98 said:
Kevin Sullivan always makes me laugh when I think about him pushing Beniot to do an angle between him, Beniot, and Woman who was Sullivan's wife at the time. Well soon after that angle started she became Beniots girlfriend and then wife. Cardinal rule never get your hot ass girlfriend in a wrestling angle she will leave you.
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I get the impression this happens quite a bit, ala Miss Elizabeth RIP. :icon_conf
 

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When I was an undergrad at the University of South Carolina WCW and a few other smaller promotions used to run shows regularly at the Township Auditorium in Columbia. Another great wrestling venue....one of the best was this small promotion (I think Ricky Steamboat was involved with it financially for a time) called South Atlantic Pro Wrestling. I remember going to one show and there must have been no more than 100 people there. Everyone on the card worked their a*s off like it was Wrestlemania. That was one of the best wrestling cards I ever attended--Ricky Steamboat, Vince Torrelli (better known to the world as MMA legend Ken Shamrock), Robert Fuller aka "The Tennessee Stud", the Nasty Boys, and a bunch of others.

My ex-wife, whom I was dating at the time, used to actually tolerate my enthusiasm for the "sport". She would even go with me on road trips to see shows--I remember driving to Knoxville once just because Japanese legends Kensuke Sasaki, Hiroshi Hase and The Great Muta were on the card. The main event that night was a two out of three falls match between Ric Flair and Bobby Eaton from the Midnight Express...

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It was nice to talk some old school wrestling tonight, Todays wrestling just dont do it for me anymore I cant remember the last time I even order a WWE ppv and probably never will again.
 

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No this was way back when Atlas was sporting that 27 inch waist he claimed to have...guy must have been on everything they had out back then he was freakish for the time period...this was down in Georgia when he teamed with Sullivan.

Another early favorite was Mil Mascaras...he wasn't a real regular though, he was the first guy to pin Sgt.Slaughter (in da gah-den) they showed that one on USA too.

Back in the day when the only info you could get on pro wrestling was from the newsstand mags it seemed like Mascaras was on all of them. He's a legend in Mexico, of course, but from what I've read a lot of the American wrestlers considered him a real prick to work with...
 

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Maniac Mark Lewin, now that is a serious old obscure reference! wow....remember the Missing Link (short lived but bizarre WWF character?

Killer Kahn, The Mongolian Stomper they always reminded me of each other.
 

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Wrigley said:
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It was nice to talk some old school wrestling tonight, Todays wrestling just dont do it for me anymore I cant remember the last time I even order a WWE ppv and probably never will again.

:-( It's sad how many wrestling fans were loss after WWE bought out the WCW. It was happening before that but still 10 million people were watching wrestling on Monday nights between Raw and Nitro now only 4.5 million do. That is a big loss of guys like you who really like wrestling but don't see anything out there that you are interested in. However I would still recommand WWE 24/7 to anyone alot of good stuff there.
 

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da1prophet said:
When I was an undergrad at the University of South Carolina WCW and a few other smaller promotions used to run shows regularly at the Township Auditorium in Columbia. Another great wrestling venue....one of the best was this small promotion (I think Ricky Steamboat was involved with it financially for a time) called South Atlantic Pro Wrestling. I remember going to one show and there must have been no more than 100 people there. Everyone on the card worked their a*s off like it was Wrestlemania. That was one of the best wrestling cards I ever attended--Ricky Steamboat, Vince Torrelli (better known to the world as MMA legend Ken Shamrock), Robert Fuller aka "The Tennessee Stud", the Nasty Boys, and a bunch of others.

My ex-wife, whom I was dating at the time, used to actually tolerate my enthusiasm for the "sport". She would even go with me on road trips to see shows--I remember driving to Knoxville once just because Japanese legends Kensuke Sasaki, Hiroshi Hase and The Great Muta were on the card. The main event that night was a two out of three falls match between Ric Flair and Bobby Eaton from the Midnight Express...

The Great Muta was the shit!! The Midnight Express was one of my favorite tag teams too with Jim Cornette in tow. Best manager to ever work the mike.
 

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Back in the day when the only info you could get on pro wrestling was from the newsstand mags it seemed like Mascaras was on all of them. He's a legend in Mexico, of course, but from what I've read a lot of the American wrestlers considered him a real prick to work with...

I could imagine that , he was a unique wrestler for the time...a bigger version of Rey Mysterio....Rey was probably a big Mascars fan.
 

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Wrigley said:
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It was nice to talk some old school wrestling tonight, Todays wrestling just dont do it for me anymore I cant remember the last time I even order a WWE ppv and probably never will again.

Same here to ever letter you typed.
 

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Wrigley said:
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It was nice to talk some old school wrestling tonight, Todays wrestling
just dont do it for me anymore I cant remember the last time I even order a WWE ppv and probably never will again.

Agreed...I can't remember the time I ordered a WWE PPV and can't really envision a scenario in which I'd do it in the future.

I did order a TNA PPV not too long ago, just to see the match between Samoa Joe and Jushin "Thunder" Liger. I'm still a mark for the great Japanese stars....

Some of you wrestling fans should check out the ROH promotion, which is based in Philadelphia. A lot of the big TNA guys have competed there--Christopher Daniels and Samoa Joe come immediately to mind. The stuff that CM Punk did with ROH is incredible--obviously Vince is going to water down his act now that he's in the WWE, but his ROH is just great both in the ring and on the mike...
 

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go2guy said:
The Great Muta was the shit!! The Midnight Express was one of my favorite tag teams too with Jim Cornette in tow. Best manager to ever work the mike.

Watch this clip from Cornette at a Diary Queen back in 1994

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Journeyman said:
Maniac Mark Lewin, now that is a serious old obscure reference! wow....remember the Missing Link (short lived but bizarre WWF character?

Killer Kahn, The Mongolian Stomper they always reminded me of each other.

Missing Link started his career in world class championship wrestling had some strange matches there.
 

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Journeyman said:
I could imagine that , he was a unique wrestler for the time...a bigger version of Rey Mysterio....Rey was probably a big Mascars fan.

He was a pretty revolutionary guy...here's a good trivia fact for you: for a long time the New York State Athletic Commission had a ban on masked wrestlers. It was eventually lifted, and Mascaras was the first masked wrestler ever to appear at Madison Square Garden....there were plenty after that, including one of my personal favorites The Masked Superstar (aka Bill Eadie, who would later be one of the original guys in the "Demolition" tag team. I forget if he was Axe or Smash..)

His brother was also a big deal in Mexican wrestling under the name Dos Caras. Dos' son (Mil's nephew), the aptly named Dos Caras, Jr. fought MMA for awhile. He was doing OK until he inexplicably decided to fight recent Open Weight GP winner Mirko "Cro Cop" Fillipovic at a PRIDE event and had his head handed to him in less than a minute...
 

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He was a pretty revolutionary guy...here's a good trivia fact for you: for a long time the New York State Athletic Commission had a ban on masked wrestlers. It was eventually lifted, and Mascaras was the first masked wrestler ever to appear at Madison Square Garden....there were plenty after that, including one of my personal favorites The Masked Superstar (aka Bill Eadie, who would later be one of the original guys in the "Demolition" tag team. I forget if he was Axe or Smash..)

His brother was also a big deal in Mexican wrestling under the name Dos Caras. Dos' son (Mil's nephew), the aptly named Dos Caras, Jr. fought MMA for awhile. He was doing OK until he inexplicably decided to fight recent Open Weight GP winner Mirko "Cro Cop" Fillipovic at a PRIDE event and had his head handed to him in less than a minute...

That is interesting...he was a revoltionary no doubt...He has to be pretty old now..I would geuss atleast 65 maybe 70
 

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Missing Link started his career in world class championship wrestling had some strange matches there.

My all time favorite "monster" heel was the great Abdullah the Butcher.....

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