People who are buried do not rise out of the ground. It is impossible to die be buried and rise from the ground statistic wise. Nobody is saying humans just simply came out of the ground or appeared from seas. You speak of a possibility of a higher power creating a Big Bang? I have thought of that too but what created the higher power, and then what created that of which created the higher power? Eventually you come to something. If there is something it had to come from somewhere? Don't lump all liberals into this, i know plenty conservatives who believe as I do. My family is liberal and I am the sheep.
Start with politicians and you may be on your way to recovering from liberalism.
People with mandates lie - for their own agenda. People who work their ideas through markets can't lie because the market (people) will bitch-slap them with reality if they do. If a business doesn't deliver on its promises, it will soon be out of business. Markets are self-regulating.
But what happens when the government fails to deliver on its promises? Well, when Progressivism inevitably fails, people vote for Progressive lite...and the problem becomes worse and worse and worse.
OBAMA'S TEMPER TANTRUM AT TOP U.S. MILITARY BRASS
"In a fit of rage, Obama snaps at U.S.military brass: “Don’t you dare try and paint all of
Islam with the same brush”.
Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a
Pentagon meeting about the bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks
allegedly tying the Islamic State (ISIS) to Islam.
Did you know that we now have a Muslim government?
John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia.
Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live.
Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in
the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim.
Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim.
Obama advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim.
Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim.
Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim.
And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack Hussein Obama.
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Claim: President Obama angrily said "don't you dare paint all of Islam with the same brush" after becoming agitated that ISIS and Islam had been conflated.
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Obama snaps at U.S. military brass..........
If you fail to pass this one on, there's something wrong ... somewhere.
In a fit of rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: "Don't you dare try and paint all of Islam with the same brush"
Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic State ( ISIS ) to Islam.
Origins: On 26 September 2014, an internet rumor began to circulate claiming President Obama threw a "tantrum" or "hissy fit" during a meeting with senior Pentagon officials. The claim spread widely, and all versions indicate the President specifically stated "don't you dare paint all of Islam with the same brush."
The reach of the rumor involving Obama's purported outburst at Camp David is large, but all iterations stem back to a single account lacking any verification. The claim is made without even a vaguely-identified source such as a person present at the meeting, an anonymous staffer, or a journalist party to the discussion:
In addition to lacking corroboration anywhere, the rumor is rooted in the belief President Obama became frustrated that ISIS and Islam had been "tied" together. However, ISIS, ISIL, and IS are all name variations of "Islamic State." It beggars belief President Obama remained shielded from this similarity in nomenclature until he sat down with military officials in September 2014.
Though widespread, there's no evidence to suggest President Obama uttered the phrase in question. Obama has addressed the press and the nation on numerous occasions regarding the matter of ISIS or ISIL and hasn't become "agitated" or hinted at irritation over the "Islamic" part of "Islamic State."
Last updated: 21 October 2014
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/quotes/islambrush.asp#V35JyGCKmTphWbD7.99
Claim: President Obama angrily said "don't you dare paint all of Islam with the same brush" after becoming agitated that ISIS and Islam had been conflated.
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Obama snaps at U.S. military brass..........
If you fail to pass this one on, there's something wrong ... somewhere.
In a fit of rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: "Don't you dare try and paint all of Islam with the same brush"
Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic State ( ISIS ) to Islam.
Origins: On 26 September 2014, an internet rumor began to circulate claiming President Obama threw a "tantrum" or "hissy fit" during a meeting with senior Pentagon officials. The claim spread widely, and all versions indicate the President specifically stated "don't you dare paint all of Islam with the same brush."
The reach of the rumor involving Obama's purported outburst at Camp David is large, but all iterations stem back to a single account lacking any verification. The claim is made without even a vaguely-identified source such as a person present at the meeting, an anonymous staffer, or a journalist party to the discussion:
This outburst reportedly took place in the afternoon of last week just prior to the president's departure to Camp David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked out of the room ...
The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood continued to indicate he was still very upset.
The account states that President Obama left the room in implied disgust twice before returning with the unnamed "senior advisor." It continued: The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood continued to indicate he was still very upset.
Within seconds, Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how "inappropriate" it was to "try and paint all of Islam with the same brush." The president repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His voice carried to several other West Wing offices.
Notably, the claim conflicts with itself in parts. In one portion, Obama is quoted saying "don't you dare paint all of Islam with the same brush." In another, he says it's "inappropriate" to "try and paint all of Islam with the same brush." According to the account, "news of the outburst reached senior Pentagon officials" who had "no reaction" to the purported incident.In addition to lacking corroboration anywhere, the rumor is rooted in the belief President Obama became frustrated that ISIS and Islam had been "tied" together. However, ISIS, ISIL, and IS are all name variations of "Islamic State." It beggars belief President Obama remained shielded from this similarity in nomenclature until he sat down with military officials in September 2014.
Though widespread, there's no evidence to suggest President Obama uttered the phrase in question. Obama has addressed the press and the nation on numerous occasions regarding the matter of ISIS or ISIL and hasn't become "agitated" or hinted at irritation over the "Islamic" part of "Islamic State."
Last updated: 21 October 2014
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/quotes/islambrush.asp#V35JyGCKmTphWbD7.99
Except Jesus wasn't buried six feet underground in a brand new deluxe model coffin. He was buried in a tomb. Basically laid on a rock bed with a giant boulder for a front door.
As mentioned in this thread, his resurrection had eye witness accounts. One of his most famous apostles Paul (not the resident fat ass drunk Alaskan) was a mean and brutal MF who was inspired to change his ways after having seen it. I don't know how much scripture you've ever read, and the text we read today has been translated dozens of times over the centuries...but what stands out to me the most is the words Jesus spoke. Some of the things he said seemed to contain far too much depth and wisdom to have come from a mere human. Which brings me to...
You're asking me who created the ultimate highest power. I don't know, you don't know, no one knows. The likely answer is there are many things about our existence which our tiny human brains just cannot comprehend. My own belief is we find out the answers to those questions in the afterlife.
I have no love for Slime Brennan and his Agency's illegal acts of, and coverup of Torture. But he ain't no Muslim, not that it would matter if he was.
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Claim: CIA Director John Brennan is a Muslim who converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia.
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Example: [Collected via e-mail, January 2015]
John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia
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Origins: On 8 March 2013, John Brennan was sworn in as CIA Director. He was nominated by President Barack Obama on 7 January 2013, and in February of that year a rumor began to circulate about
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Objections were raised to Brennan's nomination by lawmakers such as Rand Paul, who filibustered Brennan's confirmation over his prior sanctioning of the use of drones. But a fringe objection echoed outside the Beltway, where Brennan's fitness to serve was questioned due to his supposedly becoming a Muslim while stationed in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The claim's fire was fueled after Brennan was sworn in to his office not on a Bible but on a copy of the Constitution.
The rumor about Brennan's conversion to Islam coalesced after a 9 February 2013 radio broadcast during which former FBI agent John Guandolo levied the accusation. The most relevant portion of the interview has been excerpted below:
On 13 February 2013, talk show host Glenn Beck repeated the claim in his frequently employed "just asking questions" style. According to Beck, the assertion was "plausible" simply by merit of having been uttered aloud at one point in the not too distant past, and it was therefore reasonable to speculate as to whether Brennan had in fact converted to Islam:
Beck acknowledged he had no evidence to offer in support of such a claim:
I will tell you, I don't know if this is true or not. I will tell you that there is so much in John Brennan's background that should be questioned that this is plausible. Now, if somebody makes a charge like that, shouldn't we at least explore it before we put him as the chief of all intelligence? It seems that we can't ask reasonable questions any more.
Iterations of the "Brennan is a Muslim" claim have a single thing in common: ex-FBI agent John Guandolo. Guandolo resigned from his position with the Bureau in December 2008 after he was caught engaging in a sexual relationship with a key confidential source in the midst of a corruption investigation of a Louisiana politician. Since then, he has created a burgeoning second career training law enforcement groups to identify potential covert Islamic threats to the United States. However, Guandolo's credibility in this area has been questioned, one example being an NPR segment that primarily focused on Jordanian-American Omar al-Omari. Guandolo was central to the segment due his insinuation during a law enforcement training course that Omari was connected to a vague cabal of "terrorists":
One of the trainers in Ohio that day was a man named John Guandolo. He's a former FBI agent and former Marine. According to people in the training class that day and Guandolo himself, a photograph of Omari with members of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a local Muslim advocacy group, was put up on the screen. According to the people who were there, Guandolo and the other visiting trainers didn't say outright Omari was a terrorist, but they suggested that he had links to bad people — people who were members of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and even al-Qaida.
"I stand by what I said that day about Omari," Guandolo told me, though he declined to say so on tape. "The facts are on my side."
Guandolo suggested when I interviewed him on the phone that there were things he knew about Omari that the FBI didn't. "We know we have our facts right, because we have to," Guandolo said. (Nearly a dozen sources contacted by NPR in the intelligence community, the FBI and at the Department of Homeland Security said Omari has no links to terrorists or terrorism. They said the accusations against him are unfounded.)
There is no certification process to vet [terrorism] experts [such as Guandolo]. They simply present their resumes and, often through word of mouth, they get hired. The trainers tend to be former government officials. Sometimes they have had key roles in the federal government fighting terrorism. Just as often, they have not. There's growing evidence that many of these training sessions are providing officers at the grass roots with a biased view of Muslims in America. That is what appears to have happened to Omari.
Guandolo remains the sole source we've found for this claim about John Brenna's being a Muslim, with no versions of it tracing back to any source other than him. The only thing approaching proof the former FBI agent had cited in support of his claim is the fact that Brennan once said during a speech that he had "marveled at the majesty of the Hajj." Since the Hajj is an annual pilgrimage undertaken by Muslims to Mecca, a holy city that non-Muslims not are allowed to enter, Guandolo arrived at the extremely far-fetched conclusion that Brennan himself must be a Muslim in order to have marveled at it. But Brennan didn't say he had ever taken part in such a pilgrimage or visited Mecca himself, and quite obviously someone with his extensive background in Middle Eastern affairs could know (and have seen) something of the Hajj without having participated in it: "I stand by what I said that day about Omari," Guandolo told me, though he declined to say so on tape. "The facts are on my side."
Guandolo suggested when I interviewed him on the phone that there were things he knew about Omari that the FBI didn't. "We know we have our facts right, because we have to," Guandolo said. (Nearly a dozen sources contacted by NPR in the intelligence community, the FBI and at the Department of Homeland Security said Omari has no links to terrorists or terrorism. They said the accusations against him are unfounded.)
There is no certification process to vet [terrorism] experts [such as Guandolo]. They simply present their resumes and, often through word of mouth, they get hired. The trainers tend to be former government officials. Sometimes they have had key roles in the federal government fighting terrorism. Just as often, they have not. There's growing evidence that many of these training sessions are providing officers at the grass roots with a biased view of Muslims in America. That is what appears to have happened to Omari.
I did spend time as an undergraduate at the American University in Cairo in the 1970s. And time spent with classmates from Egypt, from Jordan, from Palestine, and around the world who taught me that whatever our differences of nationality or race or religion or language, there are certain aspirations that we all share: to get an education. To provide for our families. To practice our faith freely. To live in peace and security. And during a 25-year career in government, I was privileged to serve in positions across the Middle East — as a political officer with the State Department and as a CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, I saw how our Saudi partners fulfilled their duty as custodians of the two holy mosques of Mecca and Medina. I marveled at the majesty of the Hajj and the devotion of those who fulfilled their duty as Muslims by making that privilege — that pilgrimage.
Ultimately, the Guandolo's claim is not only unfounded but problematic. Even if Guandolo's demonstrated inclination to make claims without factual basis were not considered, his statements constitute a conflict of interest due to his post-FBI career. Guandolo markets the idea of an imminent, pervasive threat to security in the United States has resulted from a conspiracy by Muslims to infiltrate the government at its highest levels and is paid for his "expertise" through his being hired to provide lectures and training classes on the subject. Aside from Guandolo's shaky accusation, the one other scanty piece of evidence cited in support of this claim is that the movie Zero Dark Thirty, about the U.S. intelligence and military operation to track down and kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, featured a top-level CIA character known as "The Wolf" who was depicted in the film as a practicing Muslim and shown praying in his office. Some who have heard the rumor about Brennan have speculated this character was intended to represent him, but the personal details of the real-life man on whom the character was based (known only as "Roger") aren't a match for Brennan. And Brennan, who at the time was the White House counterterrorism adviser, was represented in the film by a composite character known only as "National Security Advisor," portrayed by a different actor than the one who filled the "Wolf" role.
While it is true that John Brennan was sworn into office using a copy of the U.S. Constitution rather than a Bible, that fact alone is not definitive proof of any particular religious sentiment. Had he sought to conceal his Islamic faith, it's just as likely he would have opted to use a Bible (particularly if he had no intent to uphold the very Constitution on which he swore his oath). And if we are to believe that John Brennan is a closeted Muslim, then we would also have to believe that either no one in the highest levels of the U.S. government has the least bit of concern about that fact (not enough to speak up about it, anyway), or that Brennan has managed to successfully hide his religious beliefs from the entirety of the vast intelligence network that he heads. The more logical answer is that John Brennan could very well have no faith at all, or that he holds the ideals of the Constitution higher than the ideals of religion in relation to his duties as head of the CIA.
Last updated: 26 January 2015
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Of Course we KNOW Neither Obama, nor Valerie Jarrett are Muslim.
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Claim: White House adviser Valerie Jarrett once said she seeks "to help change America to be a more Islamic country."
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Example: [Collected via e-mail, January 2015]
Quoted from Valerie Jarrett:
"I am an Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American Citizen and I seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself."
Valerie Jarrett, Stanford University 1977
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Origins: Valerie Jarrett was offered a role as a White House Senior Advisor at the very beginning of the Obama administration in January 2009 and now holds the position of Senior Advisor to the President of the United States. President Obama has said he consults Jarrett on every major decision, and the New Republic's Noam Scheiber reported thus of her influence with the White House:
"Her role since she has been at the White House is one of the broadest and most expansive roles that I think has ever existed in the West Wing," says Anita Dunn, Obama's former communications director. Broader, even, than the role of running the West Wing. This summer, the call to send Attorney General Eric Holder on a risky visit to Ferguson, Missouri, was made by exactly three people: Holder himself, the president, and Jarrett, who were vacationing together on Martha's Vineyard. When I asked Holder if Denis McDonough, the chief of staff, was part of the conversation, he thought for a moment and said, "He was not there."
Jarrett holds a key vote on Cabinet picks (she opposed Larry Summers at Treasury and was among the first Obama aides to come around on Hillary Clinton at State) and has an outsize say on ambassadorships and judgeships. She helps determine who gets invited to the First Lady's Box for the State of the Union, who attends state dinners and bill-signing ceremonies, and who sits where at any of the above
The level of influence Jarrett holds with the Obama administration has prompted many detractors to complain she wields too much control over the President and decisions about who should have access to him, and one expression that detraction commonly takes is the assertion Jarrett is a foreign-born Islamic "mole" who is pushing for (or furthering) a Muslim agenda through the executive branch. The quote cited above is a typical example, holding that while Jarrett was an undergraduate psychology student at Jarrett holds a key vote on Cabinet picks (she opposed Larry Summers at Treasury and was among the first Obama aides to come around on Hillary Clinton at State) and has an outsize say on ambassadorships and judgeships. She helps determine who gets invited to the First Lady's Box for the State of the Union, who attends state dinners and bill-signing ceremonies, and who sits where at any of the above
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Contrary to common rumor, however, neither Jarrett nor her parents are Iranian, nor (as far as well can tell) are any of them Muslim. Jarrett's parents, James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman, were both American-born U.S. citizens from Washington, D.C. and Chicago, respectively; the couple merely lived in Iran for about six years in the late 1950s and early 1960s while James served as chair of pathology at Nemazee Hospital in Shiraz as part of a program that sent American physicians to work in developing countries.
Valerie was born in Shiraz during the Jarretts' sojourn in Iran; she returned to the U.S. with her parents in 1962 (when she was five years old), whereupon she attended prep school in Massachusetts, graduated with a B.A. in psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and earned a J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981 before returning to Chicago to begin her working career. We've found no evidence Valerie Jarrett is (or ever was) Muslim, her only apparent connection to that religion being the incidental one that she temporarily lived in a predominantly Muslim country with her American parents for the first few years of her life.
The quote to attributed "Valerie Jarrett, Stanford University, 1977" about her "seek[ing] to help change America to be a more Islamic country" is an unfounded one that has no source other than recent repetition (primarily on right-wing web sites and blogs) and that in its commonly reproduced form is too stilted to be believable as the utterance of a fluent English speaker (e.g., "I am an Iranian by birth and of [sic] my Islamic faith"). No news article or document associated with Stanford University records Jarrett as having made this statement back in 1977; and if there were any credible evidence Jarrett had ever said anything remotely like this, it would have been a well-covered news story since shortly after the 2008 presidential election and not a obscure meme that didn't pop up until several years later.
Last updated: 10 February 2015
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/jarrettislam.asp#uEk6GBRkmZY4j16s.99
All anyone has to do is watch Hussein's Cairo speech (read the transcript, hearing him makes me puke!) and it's beyond obvious what his real religion is.
"We are summoned to push back against those who would distort our religion for their nihilistic ends"
OUR RELIGION?????? Whoops!
Hey Lying Casper. How many year banning are you willing to bet Obama never uttered that phrase in a Cairo Speech? I know that's meaningless, as you'll just create another ghost, but even so, I'm going to show what a Lying, Gutless Coward you are.
The Kenyan said it not even a week ago. 'Snopes' THAT, sewer rat.
OUR RELIGION?????
Islam is not my religion, is it yours? So what is this "OUR RELIGION" bullshit? Yet another whoopsie by "Christian' Hussein?
'Snopes' LOL... The mask is off the Muslim Kenyan.
You're a shameless partisan hack.
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These eye witness accounts are from where? The Bible? I'm not going to change anyone's opinion and I really am not trying to, I hope I am wrong. I find it hard to believe that people would believe in religion/Jesus and disbelieve climate scientists when we know physical attributes the Bible mentions just simply do not happen. How many people are in this world? It is mathematically impossible to have this world population. And how did people end up with different pigmentation and low and behold they navigated to other continents unknown to others? I mean we can go on and on here. I asked you who made the ultimate highest power? You say nobody knows, so hence a Big Bang could have happened? It's plausible as anything else but when I ask and get into nitty gritty or to the bottom of this the answer is always, "it just is" or it's intended for us "not to comprehend." My brain doesn't work that way.
Now I am glad there is religion, I think a world without religion or fear of higher power would lead to tons more chaos. Church provides good community programs and support to people who may only have religion/church to look to. It keeps my grandmother who is 93 occupied and maybe a focus to keep living by knitting and providing a sense of giving to the community, a sense of self worth. I guess I will end it there.
You are a gutless, Lying, Canadian Hack. Did he say that inn a CAIRO SPEECH, as you quoted above, trying to make it seem like he was talking to a Muslim audience?? How many Years banning are you willing to put up, LIAR? Don't dance around like you usually do.
Here's another LIAR. How many Years Banning are you willing to bet that the phrase you are quoting, wherever it was said, whenever it was said, is being EDITED By you, and you are leaving 2 very important words out?
