Cops: Mass. girl, 18, encouraged boy to take his life

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Like I said, I think it's a stretch to get a conviction, but hopefully it is accomplishing other goals.

I would love to see a conviction
 

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I think her being on the phone with him and texting him to get back in the car might have some involuntary manslaughter or something.
Time will tell.

Good luck on the debate.
 

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I just wonder how hard it will be to prosecute this one. Will they have to prove she had malicious intent? Wouldn't it be easy for her to just say she wasn't serious? I don't know how these laws differ from state to state, but if I see somebody standing on a bridge and they tell me that they are about to jump and I just ignore them, could I be charged? Since suicide is a crime, am I an accessory to that? Seems like kind of a slippery slope to me. I think what she did sucks and I hate it, but it looks like it could be a freedom of speech argument. I think this is why this case is so big in the public view. It could set a precedent as far as enacting new laws.
 

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Manslaughter charge.....No joke,she better have a good lawyer.

The State will make an example out of her.....If EVIL was a CRIME she would get LIFE.
 

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I don't think suicide is a crime in most states.

He wasn't referring to the suicide, but the girl who was arrested and charged. Let's be honest here, most DA's won't accept charges unless they know it's a case they can win. They won't go to trial with a case they know they have no chance of winning in most cases. These DA's care more about their won/lost record more then professional athletes do.

I haven't read the case, but the DA took charges because they feel they have a shot at winning. There was probable cause, because the judge allowed the DA's office to go through with the charge.

Now, might this be a ploy to entice the girl to accept some kind of plea? Possibly. I'm not going to research it, but I'm sure I've seen cases in the U.S. where people were charged with a crime after social media harassment ended in the suicide of the person being harassed. Manslaughter really isn't that difficult of a charge to prove in reality.

Just my two cents.
 

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Those issues?

Sorry bud, most kids just don't go to mommy and daddy with certain things. Kids go to thier friends.

Unless me and all of my friends growing up were the only kids that were trying to be independent and not going to mommy and daddy with our problems, then I think I am pretty accurate.

If this kid went to his parents and said "I think I'm gonna kill myself tomorrow", then I'm sure his parents would have gotten him help. Instead he went to somebody who he thought was his friend, and here we are.

I didn't say most do but I certainly know less than 99% do.
 

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This case will definitely attract top lawyers & IMO, will definitely create new laws.


Charles Manson told others to commit murders & he's doing life........the actions of words can be very lethal in certain situations.


This girl will have a tough time going forward from her peers & in life......she should relocate & change her last name after this is all over.


Me personally, I don't know how she will be able to wake up every morning knowing she pushed/helped a friend commit suicide.

We are all mentally different & sometimes people are born w/o a conscience........whether she's a sociopath, remains to be seen........they all start somewhere.

I would like to know more of her background........family, etc.


And like some have mentioned, its very tough for teenagers to run to their parents for help......even with a healthy relationship between the parents & child. There are simply some things you can not go to your parents to talk.about at that age.

Again, this is a very tough case, both sides have their work cut out for them...........obviously all the texts will be printed out & read over by both lawyers.


Bottom line, clearly this girl is off her rocker..........
 

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I'm with Enfuego, telling someone to jump off a bridge is not a crime, and it shouldn't even be debated. As far as there being an indictment, unless you're a cop getting an indictment is nearly 100%. No way a judge doesn't throw this out.

Well, a judge was present when the DA presented the probable cause to the court. I know here, when the DA accepts a charge, within either 24 or 48 hours. they must go before a judge and read a probable cause statement. If the judge deems no probable cause, the case is dismissed.

I'm not saying another judge won't dismiss down the line, but it was good enough for one judge so far. I still think they're hoping for some sort of plea bargain.
 

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I just wonder how hard it will be to prosecute this one. Will they have to prove she had malicious intent? Wouldn't it be easy for her to just say she wasn't serious? I don't know how these laws differ from state to state, but if I see somebody standing on a bridge and they tell me that they are about to jump and I just ignore them, could I be charged? Since suicide is a crime, am I an accessory to that? Seems like kind of a slippery slope to me. I think what she did sucks and I hate it, but it looks like it could be a freedom of speech argument. I think this is why this case is so big in the public view. It could set a precedent as far as enacting new laws.

There is currently no law in the US making it illegal to commit suicide.
 

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He wasn't referring to the suicide, but the girl who was arrested and charged. Let's be honest here, most DA's won't accept charges unless they know it's a case they can win. They won't go to trial with a case they know they have no chance of winning in most cases. These DA's care more about their won/lost record more then professional athletes do.

I haven't read the case, but the DA took charges because they feel they have a shot at winning. There was probable cause, because the judge allowed the DA's office to go through with the charge.

Now, might this be a ploy to entice the girl to accept some kind of plea? Possibly. I'm not going to research it, but I'm sure I've seen cases in the U.S. where people were charged with a crime after social media harassment ended in the suicide of the person being harassed. Manslaughter really isn't that difficult of a charge to prove in reality.

Just my two cents.

Yeah, nothing you've said here I disagree with. Good post.
 

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I just wonder how hard it will be to prosecute this one. Will they have to prove she had malicious intent? Wouldn't it be easy for her to just say she wasn't serious? I don't know how these laws differ from state to state, but if I see somebody standing on a bridge and they tell me that they are about to jump and I just ignore them, could I be charged? Since suicide is a crime, am I an accessory to that? Seems like kind of a slippery slope to me. I think what she did sucks and I hate it, but it looks like it could be a freedom of speech argument. I think this is why this case is so big in the public view. It could set a precedent as far as enacting new laws.

That's the thing with involuntary manslaughter, you don't need to prove intent to convict, which is key.
 

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Yeah, nothing you've said here I disagree with. Good post.

Going to be interesting Enfuego, keep the thread updated if you can.
 

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At one point the night of Roy's death, he exited the vehicle and communicated to Carter that he was having second thoughts about taking his own life, Kobza told CNN. Carter then urged him via text message to get back in the car, Kobza said.

Upon searching Roy's cell phone, police discovered "hundreds" of texts between Roy and Carter, many which contained language from Carter that encouraged Roy to take his own life, Kobza said.


"Instead of attempting to assist him or notify his family or school officials, Ms. Carter is alleged to have strongly influenced his decision to take his own life, encouraged him to commit suicide and guided him in his engagement of activities which led to his death," Gregg Miliote, director of communications for the Bristol County District Attorney's Office, said in a statement.
 

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I didn't say most do but I certainly know less than 99% do.


You must have missed post #52

Anybody using common sense would know that a stat like this is impossible to PROVE or DISPROVE
 

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Going to be interesting Enfuego, keep the thread updated if you can.

I will. This is an interesting case and I like studying up on law cases. I'm curious to see what happens.

There's certainly no doubt she's got some mental issues.
 

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No, I didn't but it doesn't matter really. Has no baring on this case anyway.

Then why do you continue to bring it up?........

You know what?....I'm getting a headache........im done with you tonight.....
 

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