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Were your ancestors critical thinkers too as they roamed up and down the Icelandic coast in a Viking ship raping and destroying?

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Indeed. This is how the Anglo Saxon has to come to dominate the world. Your welcome...fucking ingrate.
 
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You forgot that in between my years as a Mormon (born and raised) I also logged time with the Southern Baptists, a couple of Methodist congregations and even spent a few months in summer 1984 with a Pentacostal congregation in East Texas.

Admittedly, the Babtists and those Pentacostals put a fair amount of bend into my brain. But thankfully I overcame it and have been a grateful Christian member of Unity since 1994.

And for the record have not used cocaine or amphetamines in 13+ years now and have not abused alcohol in 16 years now.

But you already knew all that.

Barman,

I didn't know that you had kicked those habits. I am genuinely happy for you.
 

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In that quote Jesus says that God "hid these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes". Meaning that people as they grow older become critical thinkers based on logic yet are pessimistic and more distrusting while people who are young are able to be more trusting and be more believable because they are more "pure" for the lack of a better word. One is not more intelligent then the other. One just happens to be more abstract then the other.

Sorry it took a little while to respond, that passage that you are refering to is actually from Luke 10:21. The chapter talks of the seventy-two witnesses that Jesus sent out ahead of him to spread his message. Verse 21 spoke of Jesus choosing to reveal himself to babies (not in the literal sense) but to babies in knowledge of Christ.
....I can see where this passage could be confusing if your not a regular reader of scripture.
 

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That line is funny (and sad that you don't even realize it)


heh...Hindus another group that will be cooking down on the 7th Level...High Roast

Right in between Muslims and Jews...with the lowest level of course for atheist members of the ACLU
 

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:)

Go ahead and laugh P.

But the joke is on you. A smaller group of Fundamentalist Xtian sects are marketing a new video game to their teens in Sunday School classes.

For every *** Hated By God you can string up on a barb wire fence, you get points that when accumulated in sufficient number allow you to sit at the table for Jesus's Next Supper after He comes down in his flaming* chariot to lop the heads off all the non-believers with his flaming* sword


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*Flaming in this context not to be confused with the Thread theme of can Flaming Homos be Good Christians? We're talking a chariot drawn by flying horses coming down from the heavens with Jesus holding the reins with one hand (presumably his left because everyone knows Jesus was a God-Fearing righty) and swinging that fiery sword with his right hand to smite the non-believers.


Just a reminder that to extend the sub-theme of psychedelic drug use introduced earlier in this here thread by FESTZIT....The Book of Revelations should NOT be read while under the influence of either LSD, peyote, mescaline derivatives or psilocybin.

You would NOT like the combo.
 

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Barman,

I didn't know that you had kicked those habits.

See what happens when you take seriously the bi-polar fueled rants of one Mark L ("JoeC")?
 
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Sorry it took a little while to respond, that passage that you are refering to is actually from Luke 10:21. The chapter talks of the seventy-two witnesses that Jesus sent out ahead of him to spread his message. Verse 21 spoke of Jesus choosing to reveal himself to babies (not in the literal sense) but to babies in knowledge of Christ.
....I can see where this passage could be confusing if your not a regular reader of scripture.

I was always told that the Bible isnt meant to be taken metaphorically, meaning the written word is the gospel. If this is the case, then isnt the written word sufficient? Now, your analogy makes perfect sense to me, and i two understand how i could be confused. However, if we start to use analogies when something doesnt look quite to us is this not trying to add or take out of the book as it was intended as we were instructed not to? Or, is the meaning clear had i read the entire chapter written by Luke?
 

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If any sin is a sin, then living as a homosexual is no different then living as a liar, is it not? I dont think there is any conditionality of sin so therefore this must be the case. I think if you are living a gay lifestyle but yet are sorry and asking forgiveness and strength to not continue, i assume this is no different then someone having problems with a drug addiction or being a compulsive liar or any other ongoing sin. Its also important to note, that if you are born, hardwired homosexual, does this not pass a negative light on the creator itself (him)? Being how he is perfect in every way ( i think that is scripture, something to that effect) the idea of God creating an error seems contradictory. So if you take the role as a Christian apologist (defender) like Rafi does in the video above.... doesnt that make you naturally have to reject homosexuality, being you are bound by the book itself?
 
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I was always told that the Bible isnt meant to be taken metaphorically, meaning the written word is the gospel. If this is the case, then isnt the written word sufficient? Now, your analogy makes perfect sense to me, and i two understand how i could be confused. However, if we start to use analogies when something doesnt look quite to us is this not trying to add or take out of the book as it was intended as we were instructed not to? Or, is the meaning clear had i read the entire chapter written by Luke?

There is a whole field of study in which one learns how to interpret
texts -> hermeneutics.

There are parts of the Bible which are clearly meant to be taken
literally, and others not. For example, when Jesus said "If your
eye offends you, pluck it out" he clearly was using hyperbole to
make a point.
 
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If any sin is a sin, then living as a homosexual is no different then living as a liar, is it not? I dont think there is any conditionality of sin so therefore this must be the case. I think if you are living a gay lifestyle but yet are sorry and asking forgiveness and strength to not continue, i assume this is no different then someone having problems with a drug addiction or being a compulsive liar or any other ongoing sin. Its also important to note, that if you are born, hardwired homosexual, does this not pass a negative light on the creator itself (him)? Being how he is perfect in every way ( i think that is scripture, something to that effect) the idea of God creating an error seems contradictory. So if you take the role as a Christian apologist (defender) like Rafi does in the video above.... doesnt that make you naturally have to reject homosexuality, being you are bound by the book itself?

All of mankind fell into disarray when Adam sinned. God created Adam
sinless, but with the ability to chose between right and wrong. When
Adam chose to sin against God, he and his offspring fell, and we all
have been suffering ever since.
 
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If any sin is a sin, then living as a homosexual is no different then living as a liar, is it not? I dont think there is any conditionality of sin so therefore this must be the case. I think if you are living a gay lifestyle but yet are sorry and asking forgiveness and strength to not continue, i assume this is no different then someone having problems with a drug addiction or being a compulsive liar or any other ongoing sin. Its also important to note, that if you are born, hardwired homosexual, does this not pass a negative light on the creator itself (him)? Being how he is perfect in every way ( i think that is scripture, something to that effect) the idea of God creating an error seems contradictory. So if you take the role as a Christian apologist (defender) like Rafi does in the video above.... doesnt that make you naturally have to reject homosexuality, being you are bound by the book itself?


"If any sin is a sin, then living as a homosexual is no different then living as a liar, is it not? I dont think there is any conditionality of sin so therefore this must be the case. I think if you are living a gay lifestyle but yet are sorry and asking forgiveness and strength to not continue,"

Any sin is a sin is true from the perspective that if one is truly sorry,
repentant and asks forgiveness, God will forgive. But, sins have
practical and spiritual consequences which vary. Calling your spouse
a bitch has much less long-term implications practically, and to one's
soul than raping your grand-mother.

Galatians 6:7 "You will always reap what you sow" Meaning, that
God can forgive a sin, but it still could have serious consequences here
on earth.

If someone has homosexual desires, but truly is repentant, then they
will strive to stop acting on those desires, and God will honor that.
 

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If someone has homosexual desires, but truly is repentant, then they will strive to stop acting on those desires, and God will honor that.


Do you believe in the phrase "once forgiven always forgiven by the Lord"?

Just because somebody strives to do right doesnt mean they will always do right 100% of the time. Do you wish to assume you know the heart of said sinner? I was always under the impression that only the lord Jesus Christ could know the sinners heart. Man is just a man.
 

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