BIATHLON WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS 2008, OSTERSUND/SWEDEN
Schedule:
Sat, Feb09, 1100: Sprint Women, 7.5 km
Sat, Feb09, 1415: Sprint Men, 10 km
Sun, Feb10, 1200: Pursuit Women, 10 km
Sun, Feb10, 1415: Pursuit Men, 12.5 km
Tue, Feb12, 1415: Mix Relay, 4 x 6 km
Wed, Feb13, 1715: Individual Women, 15 km
Thu, Feb14, 1715: Individual Men, 20 km
Sat, Feb16, 1200: Relay Men, 4 x 7.5 km
Sat, Feb16, 1500: Mass Start Women, 12.5 km
Sun, Feb17, 1200: Mass Start Men, 15 km
Sun, Feb17, 1430: Relay Women, 4 x 6 km
(Middle European Time)
Let's hope this thread continues to produce ca$h!
And let's hope that everyone else is clean...
...Varis got caught again, 2nd test positive as well - how dumb can you be!??
Anyway: looking forward to share some ideas+discussion till Saturday...cheers.
Schedule:
Sat, Feb09, 1100: Sprint Women, 7.5 km
Sat, Feb09, 1415: Sprint Men, 10 km
Sun, Feb10, 1200: Pursuit Women, 10 km
Sun, Feb10, 1415: Pursuit Men, 12.5 km
Tue, Feb12, 1415: Mix Relay, 4 x 6 km
Wed, Feb13, 1715: Individual Women, 15 km
Thu, Feb14, 1715: Individual Men, 20 km
Sat, Feb16, 1200: Relay Men, 4 x 7.5 km
Sat, Feb16, 1500: Mass Start Women, 12.5 km
Sun, Feb17, 1200: Mass Start Men, 15 km
Sun, Feb17, 1430: Relay Women, 4 x 6 km
(Middle European Time)
Let's hope this thread continues to produce ca$h!
And let's hope that everyone else is clean...
...Varis got caught again, 2nd test positive as well - how dumb can you be!??
Anyway: looking forward to share some ideas+discussion till Saturday...cheers.
YTD : 39-16 + 122.9 units
9 February
Biathlon - Women: World Championships 7,5km Sprint
Head to head
Teja Gregorin vs Natalia Guseva
My pick is Teja Gregorin to finish ahead of Natalia Guseva
5 units to win 3.5 units at gamebookers
Guseva gets a lot of credit here for her finish last year ( bronze medal in sprint ) which has nothing to do with her recent form .
Lets have a look at their stats in the last 2 races :
Sprint
Gregorin
<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r2v2><TD align=middle>0+1 </TD><TD align=middle>23:09.4 </TD><TD align=middle>+1:33.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guseva <TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r1v2><TD align=middle>2+0 </TD><TD align=middle>23:53.8 </TD><TD align=middle>+2:17.4 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
44.4 seconds ahead with 1 error less would mean Gregorin was around 20 seconds faster in running than Guseva
Mass start
Gregorin
<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r2v2><TD align=middle>0+1+3+1 </TD><TD align=middle>38:29.25 </TD><TD align=middle>+2:21.9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guseva
<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r1v2><TD align=middle>1+0+0+0 </TD><TD align=middle>38:10.23 </TD><TD align=middle>+2:02.9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guseva with 4 errors less but only 19 second better time than Gregorin means she lost more than 1 minute against her in just running .
Gregorin shooting better than Guseva this season overall and has better running times so I will go with her against Guseva .
Eveli Saue vs Ann Kristin Flatland
My pick is Ann Kristin Flatland to finish ahead of Eveli Saue
10 units to win 8.5 units at gamebookers + pinnaclesports
Like this one even more than the first match up . Flatland very good in in the last sprint with 6th place , she was 5th in the last WC in sprint and her opponent 15th . Flatland much better than Saue in my books and I am very surprised by even odds here so I am glad to take it with high stakes .
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Basicly I wont try to predict match ups like Wilhelm vs Henkel or something like that in sprint because you cant really call a winner here because it will depend on their shooting performance a lot in just 7.5 km but I might do it in the later races when I see their actual form .
Still looking for other interesting head to heads in women race , feel free to post your suggestions . Will post my picks for men race after the women race is over to see the conditions in Ostersund .
Good luck guys , looking to make some serious cash during that World Championships d1g1t:tongue2:
9 February
Biathlon - Women: World Championships 7,5km Sprint
Head to head
Teja Gregorin vs Natalia Guseva
My pick is Teja Gregorin to finish ahead of Natalia Guseva
5 units to win 3.5 units at gamebookers
Guseva gets a lot of credit here for her finish last year ( bronze medal in sprint ) which has nothing to do with her recent form .
Lets have a look at their stats in the last 2 races :
Sprint
Gregorin
<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r2v2><TD align=middle>0+1 </TD><TD align=middle>23:09.4 </TD><TD align=middle>+1:33.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guseva <TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r1v2><TD align=middle>2+0 </TD><TD align=middle>23:53.8 </TD><TD align=middle>+2:17.4 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
44.4 seconds ahead with 1 error less would mean Gregorin was around 20 seconds faster in running than Guseva
Mass start
Gregorin
<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r2v2><TD align=middle>0+1+3+1 </TD><TD align=middle>38:29.25 </TD><TD align=middle>+2:21.9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guseva
<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=r1v2><TD align=middle>1+0+0+0 </TD><TD align=middle>38:10.23 </TD><TD align=middle>+2:02.9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guseva with 4 errors less but only 19 second better time than Gregorin means she lost more than 1 minute against her in just running .
Gregorin shooting better than Guseva this season overall and has better running times so I will go with her against Guseva .
Eveli Saue vs Ann Kristin Flatland
My pick is Ann Kristin Flatland to finish ahead of Eveli Saue
10 units to win 8.5 units at gamebookers + pinnaclesports
Like this one even more than the first match up . Flatland very good in in the last sprint with 6th place , she was 5th in the last WC in sprint and her opponent 15th . Flatland much better than Saue in my books and I am very surprised by even odds here so I am glad to take it with high stakes .
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Basicly I wont try to predict match ups like Wilhelm vs Henkel or something like that in sprint because you cant really call a winner here because it will depend on their shooting performance a lot in just 7.5 km but I might do it in the later races when I see their actual form .
Still looking for other interesting head to heads in women race , feel free to post your suggestions . Will post my picks for men race after the women race is over to see the conditions in Ostersund .
Good luck guys , looking to make some serious cash during that World Championships d1g1t:tongue2:
One more I found
Michaela Ponza vs Delphine Peretto
My pick is Michaela Ponza to finish ahead of Delphine Peretto
5 units to win 2.5 units at gamebookers
This one should be no problem at all because Ponza is slow but shes still better than her opponent and can make up 1 penalty loop against Peretto in my opinion and that is just in case she going to need it because I cant see her making more than 1 error in sprint being one of the best shooters in the circuit . So if Ponza makes no error or 1 she is going to finish ahead of Peretto no matter what unless she was training with K.Varis :missingte . I cant see Peretto with 10/10 tomorrow so Ponza should have no problem to finish ahead of Delphine Peretto at all .
Odds are pretty low at 1.50 but I cant give Peretto more than 10 % chance against Ponza unless there is some accident going to happen tomorrow with Ponza .
Off to bed now and will probably wake up at around 11 CET when women race is gonna take off .
Michaela Ponza vs Delphine Peretto
My pick is Michaela Ponza to finish ahead of Delphine Peretto
5 units to win 2.5 units at gamebookers
This one should be no problem at all because Ponza is slow but shes still better than her opponent and can make up 1 penalty loop against Peretto in my opinion and that is just in case she going to need it because I cant see her making more than 1 error in sprint being one of the best shooters in the circuit . So if Ponza makes no error or 1 she is going to finish ahead of Peretto no matter what unless she was training with K.Varis :missingte . I cant see Peretto with 10/10 tomorrow so Ponza should have no problem to finish ahead of Delphine Peretto at all .
Odds are pretty low at 1.50 but I cant give Peretto more than 10 % chance against Ponza unless there is some accident going to happen tomorrow with Ponza .
Off to bed now and will probably wake up at around 11 CET when women race is gonna take off .
just a gerneral comment to start off: I read an interview with Greis, where he is stating that the track in Ostersund is very selective with many long uphill climbs.
That i might indeed favour the better runners over shooters, especially in the longer races.
Also Neuner is a birthday girl on Saturday..will it help ???
Olofson, although at home, is now in four month pregnancy...will it still show no effects,especially on tough tracks?
That i might indeed favour the better runners over shooters, especially in the longer races.
Also Neuner is a birthday girl on Saturday..will it help ???
Olofson, although at home, is now in four month pregnancy...will it still show no effects,especially on tough tracks?
Good morning.
Shiiit - bloody biathlonworld.com needs like ages to load, don't know what the problem is, yesterday the same....Don't have the time to wait for this crap, but w/o the info this makes no sense at all. Brainiac, are you sure about Saue, I can't look it up now, but I got the feeling that she wasn't so bad this season. Flatland improved nicely, but not sure that she is way superior to the Estonian?!
- Gregorin and Ponza sounds reasonable to me.
- Looking at the odds for outright and podium, I don't see anything useful - you are right about waiting first race to see track conditions and form of runners.
- I'm curious how the Swedes will deal with the home pressure - ain't a lot of athletes who are used to it like the Germans (Ruhpoling, Oberhof and f.ex.Antholz).
- Odds on Bailly vs Neuner seem too high to me. Ok, Neuner should be faster on the track under normal circumstances and Bailly is prone to errors as well, but 2,50 for the French seems really high. Besides, it's Neuner's birthday and there will be even more ballyhoo + a lot more pressure than a year ago. Sure, she did remarkably well so far in "taking it easy", but this is World Championship and she is defending champion....
....damn it, I'll skip the women sprint, don't bet on it w/o looking up the stats. Perhaps just a bit of Ponza and Gregorin....See ya later....
ps_you know another site with detailed info on biathlon (I mean more than just the result lists) ?
ps_Hey, Chriscol! From what I remember, the track is "medium" (not as difficult as Oberhof, but no walk in the park, too). Do you know about Saue?
Shiiit - bloody biathlonworld.com needs like ages to load, don't know what the problem is, yesterday the same....Don't have the time to wait for this crap, but w/o the info this makes no sense at all. Brainiac, are you sure about Saue, I can't look it up now, but I got the feeling that she wasn't so bad this season. Flatland improved nicely, but not sure that she is way superior to the Estonian?!
- Gregorin and Ponza sounds reasonable to me.
- Looking at the odds for outright and podium, I don't see anything useful - you are right about waiting first race to see track conditions and form of runners.
- I'm curious how the Swedes will deal with the home pressure - ain't a lot of athletes who are used to it like the Germans (Ruhpoling, Oberhof and f.ex.Antholz).
- Odds on Bailly vs Neuner seem too high to me. Ok, Neuner should be faster on the track under normal circumstances and Bailly is prone to errors as well, but 2,50 for the French seems really high. Besides, it's Neuner's birthday and there will be even more ballyhoo + a lot more pressure than a year ago. Sure, she did remarkably well so far in "taking it easy", but this is World Championship and she is defending champion....
....damn it, I'll skip the women sprint, don't bet on it w/o looking up the stats. Perhaps just a bit of Ponza and Gregorin....See ya later....
ps_you know another site with detailed info on biathlon (I mean more than just the result lists) ?
ps_Hey, Chriscol! From what I remember, the track is "medium" (not as difficult as Oberhof, but no walk in the park, too). Do you know about Saue?
Girls:
WIlhelm over Neuner @2.01:
WIlhelm is better in Sprint as she is better in shooting. she had outstanding shooting performances in Training (not that i would count that too much, but at least good form and confidence). She is stating often that she is focusing on a good sprint result to get the medal monkey immediately off the back. She finished 1,4,5 in last 3 sprints vs. Neuner 8,12,3
Henkel over Bailley: @1.85
Why is Bailley so hyped up ?? basically ranked at no 4 to win the race...she finished 7,20,15 in last 3 sprints and also overll form is not outstanding.
Henkel is much more consistent in all races lately..she can run and shoot. She finished 2,9,20 in last 3 sprints steadily improving towards the WC
Becaret over Moiseuuw @ 1.88
Moisseuw very,very avarage in sprint going 18,31,36, while Becaret went 8,18...if this goes true to form Something in the top 15-20 should make it a winner
Sleptsova over Bailley @ 2.24
i miss something completely about Sleptsova and would like to have some input here from you guys before i go really big here: is she out of form or what...Bailley is favourite? i dont get it..last three sprints for sleptsova are 3,2,2 and also verall performances are solid
Falntland- Saue: i like Brainiacs pick, although i dont have it so strong..Sue is nothing special going 19,19,27 in last 3 sprints, bt Flatland besides the last race (6th) also jut 28,57 which is even worse.
Sleptsova over Olofson @1.76
Sleptsova see above...Olofson is basically a Baby-fade
I am also thinking about Johnson over Olofson for that reason, but let s see first today how she reacts
Input on Bailley + Sleptsova very welcome
BOL to all
WIlhelm over Neuner @2.01:
WIlhelm is better in Sprint as she is better in shooting. she had outstanding shooting performances in Training (not that i would count that too much, but at least good form and confidence). She is stating often that she is focusing on a good sprint result to get the medal monkey immediately off the back. She finished 1,4,5 in last 3 sprints vs. Neuner 8,12,3
Henkel over Bailley: @1.85
Why is Bailley so hyped up ?? basically ranked at no 4 to win the race...she finished 7,20,15 in last 3 sprints and also overll form is not outstanding.
Henkel is much more consistent in all races lately..she can run and shoot. She finished 2,9,20 in last 3 sprints steadily improving towards the WC
Becaret over Moiseuuw @ 1.88
Moisseuw very,very avarage in sprint going 18,31,36, while Becaret went 8,18...if this goes true to form Something in the top 15-20 should make it a winner
Sleptsova over Bailley @ 2.24
i miss something completely about Sleptsova and would like to have some input here from you guys before i go really big here: is she out of form or what...Bailley is favourite? i dont get it..last three sprints for sleptsova are 3,2,2 and also verall performances are solid
Falntland- Saue: i like Brainiacs pick, although i dont have it so strong..Sue is nothing special going 19,19,27 in last 3 sprints, bt Flatland besides the last race (6th) also jut 28,57 which is even worse.
Sleptsova over Olofson @1.76
Sleptsova see above...Olofson is basically a Baby-fade
I am also thinking about Johnson over Olofson for that reason, but let s see first today how she reacts
Input on Bailley + Sleptsova very welcome
BOL to all
Bailly: may be you're right and she just gets creds for past success, but it's hard to tell if she simply concentrated the whole season towards this event. So far, she didn't look solid at all (shooting), but at least the running part was improving over the last World Cups.
Sleptsova: Big questionmark as well - sort of a new face in russian team this season and it remains to be seen how she fares here and if she is able to perform on a constant level.
Wait&see!?
Sleptsova: Big questionmark as well - sort of a new face in russian team this season and it remains to be seen how she fares here and if she is able to perform on a constant level.
Wait&see!?
hno:
