A 2 conference network hasn't been tried so we are getting into uncharted territory. But I think they might wait and see what plays out for this conference in the next couple of years. Adding this championship game is making me think they plan on adding a couple more teams and divisions down the road. Of course we'll probably have to put up with that stinking game in 2017 with 10 teams unless they act fast. And these guys never do anything fast. If the conference added some teams, I think they would consider a network. If they added 4 teams I think they would for sure have a Big 12 Network.
I hope this comes through okay. This is The Saturday Edge Preview of the Texas Longhorns this year. Their win total could be a little higher than this depending on what kind of team Baylor fields this year. Texas gets Baylor at home. But tuff non-con schedule with Notre Dame right out of the gate, and Cal.
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Not sure how well the playoff committee would take to that. The trend is going to 9 games as 3 of the 5 conferences will play a 9 game conference schedule this year (PAC, B12, BIG). It may look like running, unless the extra non-con game is against a good opponent. But if it's FCS caliber, I'm not sure they could get away with it like the SEC. Nobody is talking about the grind of the Big 12 schedule.
The Big 12 is talking about going to divisions. But the biggest problem I see with it is if one division sucks that year and you end up playing an 8-4 or 7-5 team instead of the team with the second best record in the conference. I know this can happen in bigger conferences too. But in most years the teams who win their 6 or 7 team division are usually rated in the top 10-20 in the country. Plus it wouldn't do any good to go to divisions if your still playing a 9 game round robin schedule. I know it wouldn't do OU or Texas any good because both of our programs already have tough non conference schedules. This season Texas plays ND and Cal and OU plays Houston at tOSU. If they added a 4th non conference game to either of those teams schedules, I guarantee you it would be a very weak non Power 5 opponent. Basically it would probably do them more harm than good since they are automatically eliminating a Power 5 opponent by going to an 8 team conference schedule...If they do go to divisions, the Big 12 brass needs to schedule much better than what they did last year. Every good team had a backloaded schedule, so OU would have had to play OSU in back to back games to win the conference. OU pretty much ran over OSU in the last week. So the drama was taken out of it for a rematch..They would be better suited by scheduling most of their the weaker opponents in the last couple of weeks instead of having the big boys play each other in early December.
happens almost every year in other conferences. i don't really understand why you B12 guys have such an issue with a team putting their 0-1 loss ass on the line in a title game. Why should you be the only conference that can tiptoe into a title game without an actual conference champion. (and don't give me 'we play everyone once' because you all play Kansas and Iowa St each year while Bama almost never plays Vandy, Ohio State rarely gets Purdue, etc)
when the SEC started the title game deal back in the 90's that was the first thing Stalling and Spurrier bitched about was the need for another huge win and that it was going to knock SEC teams out of a title shot. But, that hasn't happened and in fact it might have been the biggest reason for the conference's elevation to #1 in the country for the better part of 2 decades. If you are good enough to play in the playoff you should be good enough to beat another team in your conference for the outright championship. And, honestly, it is rarely 12-0 vs 11-1...it's usually 12-0 vs 8-4 or something like that. In fact I can't remember a single season where a SEC team was KO'd of title because of this game. LSU lost when they were #3 but it was always going to be Texas/USC in the 2006 title game.
backloaded schedule excuse doesn't work either. Every SEC team plays a monster final week game whether its Bama/barn, Miss/MissSt, SoCar/Clemson, etc. and then play the title game following week.
very strange you guys all whining and moaning about this. you already get 2 easy OOC games and 2 conference layups each year. Team in SEC west do not have a single conference layup unless they are lucky enough to matchup with Vandy once every half dozen years. You guys should be embracing this...you are actually gaining some respect from the rest of us
It has worked out well for the SEC. I looked at this a few years back and it did appear that the SEC got the right team to win, so had very few knockouts. The problem is when you've been beat with a stick enough, you kind of flinch when you see it elevate above your head. Here is the list of having one foot in the MNC and then losing it all from the Big 12 title game. 1996 Nebraska (by Texas), 1998 Kansas State (by Texas AM), 2001 Texas (by Colorado), 2003 Oklahoma (by Kansas State), 2007 Missouri (by Oklahoma)...and if the refs hadn't huddled up in 2009 and added a second to the clock you'd be able to add Texas (by Nebraska). So that's 15 titles games with 5 (6 with the stick flinch in 2009) being knockout upsets. That's a pretty frightening average.
I've never been against a championship game when it comes to 12+ team conferences with divisions. But the idea of a championship game for a 10 team conference seems redundant when the champion has already been decided. And with these games I wasn't just talking about the last week of the season. The top 4 teams in the Big 12 all had bottom loaded schedules in the last MONTH. I understand the rivalry thing with OU/OSU or TCU/Baylor at the end of the season. But not playing the top 3 or 4 teams back to back to back just to please the networks. They need to spread it out some.happens almost every year in other conferences. i don't really understand why you B12 guys have such an issue with a team putting their 0-1 loss ass on the line in a title game. Why should you be the only conference that can tiptoe into a title game without an actual conference champion. (and don't give me 'we play everyone once' because you all play Kansas and Iowa St each year while Bama almost never plays Vandy, Ohio State rarely gets Purdue, etc)
when the SEC started the title game deal back in the 90's that was the first thing Stalling and Spurrier bitched about was the need for another huge win and that it was going to knock SEC teams out of a title shot. But, that hasn't happened and in fact it might have been the biggest reason for the conference's elevation to #1 in the country for the better part of 2 decades. If you are good enough to play in the playoff you should be good enough to beat another team in your conference for the outright championship. And, honestly, it is rarely 12-0 vs 11-1...it's usually 12-0 vs 8-4 or something like that. In fact I can't remember a single season where a SEC team was KO'd of title because of this game. LSU lost when they were #3 but it was always going to be Texas/USC in the 2006 title game.
backloaded schedule excuse doesn't work either. Every SEC team plays a monster final week game whether its Bama/barn, Miss/MissSt, SoCar/Clemson, etc. and then play the title game following week.
very strange you guys all whining and moaning about this. you already get 2 easy OOC games and 2 conference layups each year. Team in SEC west do not have a single conference layup unless they are lucky enough to matchup with Vandy once every half dozen years. You guys should be embracing this...you are actually gaining some respect from the rest of us
That's true that there has been some strange goings on in Big 12 title games. But I'm still for it if we can get to 12 teams. Otherwise a 10 team league with a CCG isn't going to change the views of voters come playoff seeding time. They added it for money, not to create another positive step to college football perception relevance...The people leading this conference are grasping at straws. Kinda pitiful really...
easy enough to do. bama pretty much has the same program now every year. start off with huge OOC game, then a layup, then start sec off with ole miss. a couple more sec then tenn 3rd week of october followed by a bye week before lsu. then comes miss st, layup #2, and the barn... and then hopefully sec title game
just wrong in most people's opinions.
while every other 11-1 or 12-0 team is putting their playoff chances on the line in a title game the big 12 is supposed to get an exemption? not having the title game is exactly why ohio state passed over the big 12 in 2014 and dropped OU to #4 last year. there is no say OSU makes the playoff if Baylor/TCU played for the Big 12 title. at least your commissioner understands...
Bama to join Big 12 
[h=2]Big 12 Expansion Q&A: The Case for Alabama[/h]
You thought we were joking. You thought YOU were joking when you suggested it. But there was really no way in hell that our bestie Erik Evans (@gothlaw), managing editor over at Roll Bama Roll, wasn't diving into EXPANSIONPALOOZA teeth first to present the sales pitch for Alabama. We're not even allowed to do a series like this without Erik stepping into the batter's box. It's like a rule or something.
Jon: Okay, why on earth would Alabama want to join the Big 12?
Erik: Alabama would want to join the Big 12 for the same reasons a parent enjoys dunking on their children in Nerf basketball -- the sheer ease of the schedule. Goodbye, marquee out-of-conference games to open the season; hello, Northwestern State, Rice, Incarnate Word!
Wait, or is it just Baylor that does that? I forget.
Anyway, back to the schedule. Don't think for one second Alabama wouldn't give up it's annual death march through SEC West in exchange for Kansas, Iowa State, and Texas. Win the vicious round robin against six teams in the bottom one-hundred of defense, and no championship game? Pffffft. Book those playoff tickets every year.
The other obvious reason is hot pants. Hot pants everywhere. God bless you all.
Jon: Is there anyone with actual power insane enough to entertain the notion?
Erik: Power and insanity go hand-in-hand at Alabama. I'm sure we could remind Bear Jr. that papa earned his greatest early notoriety in the old Southwest. Throw in some brisket, the easy climate of corruption, the insularity of the Big 12, the fact that no players ever seem to get arrested or indicted, that no one seems to be academically ineligible, and now you're cooking with gas!
Jon: Putting aside money, academics, and success, what crazy benefits would Alabama provide the Big 12?
Erik: The presence of Alabama would take the Big 12 back to its roots, predating the Big 12 even -- back to the days of the Big 8 and the Southwest Conference. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, what we are proposing is nothing more or less than a return to manball: good, old-fashioned power running, defense, disciplined play, form tackling, fundamentals, games that last less than six hours.
Let's be honest: the great majority of the Big 12 as presently constituted and coached plays a despicable brand of backyard game that may involve a football, but is not in fact football (present company excluded, naturally.)
(Ed. Note: What he's saying here is that we actually play a mostly acceptable form of football in Manhattan. At least while the Wizard still perambulates.)
It seems a novel concept, but for schools that gave us Billy Sims, Troy Davis, Ricky Williams, Darren Sproles, Adrian Peterson, Earl Campbell, you seem to have lost your way. The forward pass is not your friend -- it is like doing your taxes: a quarterly necessity.
Championships are won and lost at the point of attack and whipping people's asses. We shall be your sherpa to the renewed glory age of spectacular violence.
Jon: With whom would Bama immediately form a bitter rivalry?
Erik: One word: Oklahoma. The Dirt Burglars generally, and Bob Stoops specifically, are despised by most decent men, every woman, most pets, and a few of your more intelligent houseplants. That is not a program that was or ever has been built upon doing things the right way. In an era where many coaches are accused of winning-at-all-costs to the detriment of their integrity, victims' well-being, and institutional missions, the Sooners have never had those problems: They simply don't have any integrity to forfeit.
From Bud Wilkinson to Barry Switzer, through John Blake to the Stoops clan, it is a rotting shack built upon bagmen, women beaters, sociopaths, Uncle Sugar, a friendly local police force, and a small town newspaper that circles the wagons.
Combine the unsavoriness of Tennessee, the historical cheating of Auburn, the gauche new money and Florida-esque attitude of their awful fans, and the smug punchability of Urban Meyer, and you have essentially taken a snapshot of nearly Oklahoma era for the past 70 years (Except for you, Coach Schnellenberger. You learned right.)
Jon: Why do WE want to come visit Bryant-Denny? What's great about Tuscaloosa? What's your fanbase REALLY like (warts and all)?
Erik: Bryant-Denny stadium, the 8th largest arena in the world, is one of college football's hallowed grounds. It is a very old field that opened in 1929, when on-campus stadia were still a relative novelty. In its nearly-90 year history, some of the greatest to ever play or coach have prowled its sidelines. At night, it is electric, though not as hostile as Death Valley (the real one in Baton Rouge) or the Swamp. We don't throw tortillas; we don't sip chardonnay at halftime; we didn't hire Charlie Weis: all of those instantly make for a great enviroment.
Tuscaloosa, and Alabama generally, just have so much history and historical characters that shaped the tenor and culture of the 20th century (and America generally): Hank Aaron, Tallulah Bankhead, E.O. Wilson, Hank and Hank Jr., Van De Graaf, Rosa Parks, Jessie Owens, Hugo Black, George Wallace, Hellen Keller, ad infinitum. You can't throw a rock in any small town without hitting the birthplace or childhood home of a luminary, pioneer, or icon. And, while we may have viciously fought the Civil War, at least we didn't start it. (Damned Jayhawks.)
As to fans, well, that depends on what kinds of fans. Do you mean the low-rent FOGs (Football-only Gumps) that have become synonymous with the Crimson Tide to the outside world? Or, do you mean "Alabama fans," the generally smart and welcoming bunch that represents the abiding majority of Alabama fandom? We'll assume the latter, in which case you get typical southern hospitality to be sure, coupled with a certain fatalism that this is the year the wheels fall off (no matter the sport.) If it's the former, then may god rest your soul and #BlessYourHeart -- we try our damnedest to not mingle the two factions.
That said, Alabama fans are a psychotic bunch on the best of days: It is the SEC DNA. And, even the most restrained of us will take the opportunity to Gump over softball, bass fishing or club hockey with equal zeal to a Saturday in fall.
Sure, your trees may get poisoned on occasion, but at least we've never ripped anyone's testicles off (looking at you, OU fan).
Jon: And now, the big one. Pretend we're the Big 12 Board of Directors, which of course means "pretend we're blithering idiots". Why should we invite Alabama when clearly all we need is Texas?
Erik: This one is a slam dunk, ladies and gentlemen. All you need is Texas because Texas is all you have.
Oh, sure, Oklahoma tries hard, and Dave Boren is the elder spokesmen of your power brokers, but right now there is but one hegemonic brat in the room. See, with Alabama you don't get temper tantrums designed to show you who's boss -- Big 12 schools will always quietly know to take their place at the kids' table, with no petulance or vulgar power plays required.
Alabama will instantly fill that void in providing a goad to the Longhorns. Want money? We have it in spades, and certainly enough to counter what Texas would spend (remember, we're insane -- the State would bankrupt itself to spite someone if need be). Want clout? Well, it's harder to find a more historically successful program than Alabama. Want arrogance? Alabama can easily outstrip Austin in sheer chutzpah. Want more eyeballs on your product? Hell, you can find the Tide on ESPN 13 weeks a year -- no more roaming the dial and getting stuck on the RV Shopping Network. Yes, even you Kansas State can be on the World Wide Leader!
Isn't that exciting?
We're not more condescending than, say, your average Notre Dame subway fan, and, unlike Texas and OU, we'll at least be nice -- until it's time to quietly undermine you. It's the sharpest knife that cuts deepest, and it's so much sweeter when it's done with a smile and some sweet tea.
C'mon, take a chance!
Okay, minions. You have two choices. Fight back, or step aside and let Alabama humiliate Texas and Oklahoma. I know, it's a tough decision. Take your time.
[h=2]Big 12 Expansion Q&A: The Case for Alabama[/h]
You thought we were joking. You thought YOU were joking when you suggested it. But there was really no way in hell that our bestie Erik Evans (@gothlaw), managing editor over at Roll Bama Roll, wasn't diving into EXPANSIONPALOOZA teeth first to present the sales pitch for Alabama. We're not even allowed to do a series like this without Erik stepping into the batter's box. It's like a rule or something.
Jon: Okay, why on earth would Alabama want to join the Big 12?
Erik: Alabama would want to join the Big 12 for the same reasons a parent enjoys dunking on their children in Nerf basketball -- the sheer ease of the schedule. Goodbye, marquee out-of-conference games to open the season; hello, Northwestern State, Rice, Incarnate Word!
Wait, or is it just Baylor that does that? I forget.
Anyway, back to the schedule. Don't think for one second Alabama wouldn't give up it's annual death march through SEC West in exchange for Kansas, Iowa State, and Texas. Win the vicious round robin against six teams in the bottom one-hundred of defense, and no championship game? Pffffft. Book those playoff tickets every year.
The other obvious reason is hot pants. Hot pants everywhere. God bless you all.
Jon: Is there anyone with actual power insane enough to entertain the notion?
Erik: Power and insanity go hand-in-hand at Alabama. I'm sure we could remind Bear Jr. that papa earned his greatest early notoriety in the old Southwest. Throw in some brisket, the easy climate of corruption, the insularity of the Big 12, the fact that no players ever seem to get arrested or indicted, that no one seems to be academically ineligible, and now you're cooking with gas!
Jon: Putting aside money, academics, and success, what crazy benefits would Alabama provide the Big 12?
Erik: The presence of Alabama would take the Big 12 back to its roots, predating the Big 12 even -- back to the days of the Big 8 and the Southwest Conference. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, what we are proposing is nothing more or less than a return to manball: good, old-fashioned power running, defense, disciplined play, form tackling, fundamentals, games that last less than six hours.
Let's be honest: the great majority of the Big 12 as presently constituted and coached plays a despicable brand of backyard game that may involve a football, but is not in fact football (present company excluded, naturally.)
(Ed. Note: What he's saying here is that we actually play a mostly acceptable form of football in Manhattan. At least while the Wizard still perambulates.)
It seems a novel concept, but for schools that gave us Billy Sims, Troy Davis, Ricky Williams, Darren Sproles, Adrian Peterson, Earl Campbell, you seem to have lost your way. The forward pass is not your friend -- it is like doing your taxes: a quarterly necessity.
Championships are won and lost at the point of attack and whipping people's asses. We shall be your sherpa to the renewed glory age of spectacular violence.
Jon: With whom would Bama immediately form a bitter rivalry?
Erik: One word: Oklahoma. The Dirt Burglars generally, and Bob Stoops specifically, are despised by most decent men, every woman, most pets, and a few of your more intelligent houseplants. That is not a program that was or ever has been built upon doing things the right way. In an era where many coaches are accused of winning-at-all-costs to the detriment of their integrity, victims' well-being, and institutional missions, the Sooners have never had those problems: They simply don't have any integrity to forfeit.
From Bud Wilkinson to Barry Switzer, through John Blake to the Stoops clan, it is a rotting shack built upon bagmen, women beaters, sociopaths, Uncle Sugar, a friendly local police force, and a small town newspaper that circles the wagons.
Combine the unsavoriness of Tennessee, the historical cheating of Auburn, the gauche new money and Florida-esque attitude of their awful fans, and the smug punchability of Urban Meyer, and you have essentially taken a snapshot of nearly Oklahoma era for the past 70 years (Except for you, Coach Schnellenberger. You learned right.)
Jon: Why do WE want to come visit Bryant-Denny? What's great about Tuscaloosa? What's your fanbase REALLY like (warts and all)?
Erik: Bryant-Denny stadium, the 8th largest arena in the world, is one of college football's hallowed grounds. It is a very old field that opened in 1929, when on-campus stadia were still a relative novelty. In its nearly-90 year history, some of the greatest to ever play or coach have prowled its sidelines. At night, it is electric, though not as hostile as Death Valley (the real one in Baton Rouge) or the Swamp. We don't throw tortillas; we don't sip chardonnay at halftime; we didn't hire Charlie Weis: all of those instantly make for a great enviroment.
Tuscaloosa, and Alabama generally, just have so much history and historical characters that shaped the tenor and culture of the 20th century (and America generally): Hank Aaron, Tallulah Bankhead, E.O. Wilson, Hank and Hank Jr., Van De Graaf, Rosa Parks, Jessie Owens, Hugo Black, George Wallace, Hellen Keller, ad infinitum. You can't throw a rock in any small town without hitting the birthplace or childhood home of a luminary, pioneer, or icon. And, while we may have viciously fought the Civil War, at least we didn't start it. (Damned Jayhawks.)
As to fans, well, that depends on what kinds of fans. Do you mean the low-rent FOGs (Football-only Gumps) that have become synonymous with the Crimson Tide to the outside world? Or, do you mean "Alabama fans," the generally smart and welcoming bunch that represents the abiding majority of Alabama fandom? We'll assume the latter, in which case you get typical southern hospitality to be sure, coupled with a certain fatalism that this is the year the wheels fall off (no matter the sport.) If it's the former, then may god rest your soul and #BlessYourHeart -- we try our damnedest to not mingle the two factions.
That said, Alabama fans are a psychotic bunch on the best of days: It is the SEC DNA. And, even the most restrained of us will take the opportunity to Gump over softball, bass fishing or club hockey with equal zeal to a Saturday in fall.
Sure, your trees may get poisoned on occasion, but at least we've never ripped anyone's testicles off (looking at you, OU fan).
Jon: And now, the big one. Pretend we're the Big 12 Board of Directors, which of course means "pretend we're blithering idiots". Why should we invite Alabama when clearly all we need is Texas?
Erik: This one is a slam dunk, ladies and gentlemen. All you need is Texas because Texas is all you have.
Oh, sure, Oklahoma tries hard, and Dave Boren is the elder spokesmen of your power brokers, but right now there is but one hegemonic brat in the room. See, with Alabama you don't get temper tantrums designed to show you who's boss -- Big 12 schools will always quietly know to take their place at the kids' table, with no petulance or vulgar power plays required.
Alabama will instantly fill that void in providing a goad to the Longhorns. Want money? We have it in spades, and certainly enough to counter what Texas would spend (remember, we're insane -- the State would bankrupt itself to spite someone if need be). Want clout? Well, it's harder to find a more historically successful program than Alabama. Want arrogance? Alabama can easily outstrip Austin in sheer chutzpah. Want more eyeballs on your product? Hell, you can find the Tide on ESPN 13 weeks a year -- no more roaming the dial and getting stuck on the RV Shopping Network. Yes, even you Kansas State can be on the World Wide Leader!
Isn't that exciting?
We're not more condescending than, say, your average Notre Dame subway fan, and, unlike Texas and OU, we'll at least be nice -- until it's time to quietly undermine you. It's the sharpest knife that cuts deepest, and it's so much sweeter when it's done with a smile and some sweet tea.
C'mon, take a chance!
Okay, minions. You have two choices. Fight back, or step aside and let Alabama humiliate Texas and Oklahoma. I know, it's a tough decision. Take your time.
You make it sound like it was a given if we had that extra game that TCU/Baylor would have jumped tOSU. I'm not so sure about that. Everybody had the same record in the end. And the Big 10 had the bigger and louder voice on the Playoff Committee. And I believe they were going all out to make sure the first college football playoff ran smoothly and made lots of money. Which meant making it a Blueblood party. As for our Big 12 commissioner, he doesn't really have much of a voice in this conference. The Big 12 is run by the university presidents. The commissioner is just a mouthpiece. It's always been this way. Which is part of the problem...
If OU and Texas keep scheduling quality ooc opponents, they'll have to play them up front so they can have the weaker opponent sandwiched between them. If OU ever goes back to a 4 game ooc schedule I would definitely like for them to save one of those easy games as a sandwich/breather somewhere towards the back end of their schedule.
Looks like Baylor assistant Jeff Lebby could be gone too. They are picking them off one at a time in Waco. I think the bigger question is who wasn't assaulted at Baylor?
BREAKING: Former Baylor student Dolores Lozano comes forward, tells me she was assaulted by former football player Devin Chafin, that head coach Art Briles knew and that she exchanged texts at the time with current assistant Jeff Lebby about the details, while trying to decide if she should go to police. The details and the alleged assault photograph here...
Joe Schad
Baylor graduate Dolores Lozano says former Baylor running back Devin Chafin assaulted her three times and multiple coaches, including former head coach Art Briles and current passing game coordinator/running backs coach Jeff Lebby and multiple other Baylor employees, had knowledge, but did not take sufficient action.
BREAKING: Former Baylor student Dolores Lozano comes forward, tells me she was assaulted by former football player Devin Chafin, that head coach Art Briles knew and that she exchanged texts at the time with current assistant Jeff Lebby about the details, while trying to decide if she should go to police. The details and the alleged assault photograph here...
Joe Schad
Baylor graduate Dolores Lozano says former Baylor running back Devin Chafin assaulted her three times and multiple coaches, including former head coach Art Briles and current passing game coordinator/running backs coach Jeff Lebby and multiple other Baylor employees, had knowledge, but did not take sufficient action.
way to move the goal posts but the fact is TCU was 2 spots ahead of OSU, Baylor 1 behind going into the Big 10 title game. If TCU wins a championship game they are in the playoff and 75% chance that if Baylor wins they hop OSU who were playing a team outside the top 10. By not having a playoff your conference allowed another to jump, simple as that. Only reason OU didn't get jumped last year is that 4-5-6 were all Big10 teams and only 1 was getting the bid.
you B12 guys are silly for worrying about getting knocked out for HAVING a playoff when you were just knocked out for not having one. some bassackward thinking right there
former Baylor commit, Devin Duvernay, said it is down to three Big12 schools for his services... Texas, TCU, and Oklahoma. Whoever gets him will be getting the kid that ran the fastest 40 at the Nike combines. sticking point seems to be he wants a school to also give his brother Donovan a scholarship even though he's 5'8" 175 lb and one of Baylor's lowest rated recruits. That is why Alabama, who was Duvernay's #2 after LOI day, will not be his choice.
interesting to watch this one as the kid can contribute immediate but if UT/TCU/OU bring them both on they will have to drop a pair to make the 85 limit. Devin certainly worth it but Donovan not so much. Devin ran a 10.27 100m this year and as low as 4.28 40... crazee fast. would have loved him at the Capstone
btw, Baylor sitting at ONE verbal commit for 2017, lowest in the nation. You can chalk them up along with Kansas and Iowa State as soon-to-be layup 61-14 wins for the top half of the big12.
interesting to watch this one as the kid can contribute immediate but if UT/TCU/OU bring them both on they will have to drop a pair to make the 85 limit. Devin certainly worth it but Donovan not so much. Devin ran a 10.27 100m this year and as low as 4.28 40... crazee fast. would have loved him at the Capstone
btw, Baylor sitting at ONE verbal commit for 2017, lowest in the nation. You can chalk them up along with Kansas and Iowa State as soon-to-be layup 61-14 wins for the top half of the big12.
I suppose you can look at it that way if you want to speculate. But in the end it was the committee who made the final move against TCU and for tOSU. You blame it on the lack of a championship game. I blame it on politics. We'll never know how much that championship game was worth in the end since TCU had already done what they were suppose to do to get in the final four. And anything tOSU did at the end of the year wasn't going to equal the 4 ranked opponents TCU played during the season (tOSU played 2 ranked opponents). Much of the controversy that was going on at the end of the season didn't have as much to do with the final four as to which team actually won the Big 12. The commissioner and other brass in this conference should have had a plan in place instead of the co-champs crap they tried to pull that year. That part of it confused the committee even more than the other stuff...Again, no forward thinking for this conference. They're making it up as they go. I guess we'll find out in the future how much a CG means. But if it comes down to the Big 12 champ having an identical record to the Big 10 or the $EC, I'm not holding my breath on the Big 12 getting there no matter what they do in their conference championship game...
yeah but you're at least now giving yourself a chance. staying home and claiming a co-champ (like TCU/BAY in 2014) or even an outright 1-loss champ will give you no shot to impress the committee with one more big victory. I get what you're saying as it applies to a 12-0 team but that's what the rest of the conferences have been dealing with every year and it hasn't bit anyone yet (that i can remember). I might be wrong but I believe Alabama is the only recent 12-0 that lost their title shot by losing their championship game (Florida 2008 was 11-1). My opinion was that if they couldn't beat Florida they didn't deserve it. If the SEC didn't have a title game Bama, #1 at the time, would have been in the championship game...
