Big 12 Offseason Thread

[RunLeeRun]

Run, while we're on the subject of Nebraska, I've been looking at a few early plays for the first week while I'm still getting a few decent lines. Right now Nebraska -29.5 is right there towards the top of my list. I would have liked it at 4 TD's or less, but I think they win by 35+. Fresno won't be anywhere near the team they've had in the past. But they are still somewhat getting a little respect with Vegas, even though they went just 3-9 last year. But they are going to be hurting again this season and DeRuyter is probably on his way out. They'll be going to Lincoln with a new redshirt freshman QB and new OC and DC. It looks like a team going through some huge changes, and getting a little desperate. At any rate, going to Lincoln for their first game with just 12 starters back and all these new faces probably won't be a pretty sight...You got anything else to add on this game?

I don't know a lot about Fresno at the moment. You have a better read on that.

What I don't like is that NU's secondary was very predictable last year, in part to youth but mostly scheme and a very average pass rush. Even average QB's were able to make easy reads and deliver the ball. Until I see that changed, I have to assume it will continue to some degree. I also believe that a year into the Big Ten and Nebraska's roster, the staff has a better take on what they need to do. I do think this will equate into more running despite the recent passing tendencies of Riley. The path to winning in the Big Ten is running, and they've pounded that message all offseason. Plus they've set the goal of Armstrong throwing 5 interceptions. Now, if they think that is a realistic goal, then Armstrong's going to be throwing a lot of check downs/screens and keeping things tied to the playaction game. But most importantly, they are going to run the ball especially against teams like Fresno. With the NU defense there has to be a synergy with what the Offense and Defense are doing, and they know this. Run it and protect the defense.

What I do like is that it's a night game at home. Night games tend to be very good for NU. It seems to be that this game may be one of the bigger recruiting weekends for NU. Many of their top targets are talking about this game because it will be easier to get to than the Oregon mid-day game. NU fans are very dialed in on this (see 3k fans showing up to watch the top-recruits at the final camp), so I suspect it could be really electric even for Fresno, plus the conservatives have all day to get liquored up. Also, I really think the new Dline coach will be able to squeeze the most out of a talented but inexperienced group.

 

[919]

way to move the goal posts but the fact is TCU was 2 spots ahead of OSU, Baylor 1 behind going into the Big 10 title game. If TCU wins a championship game they are in the playoff and 75% chance that if Baylor wins they hop OSU who were playing a team outside the top 10. By not having a playoff your conference allowed another to jump, simple as that. Only reason OU didn't get jumped last year is that 4-5-6 were all Big10 teams and only 1 was getting the bid.

you B12 guys are silly for worrying about getting knocked out for HAVING a playoff when you were just knocked out for not having one. some bassackward thinking right there

Can work for some years, and against other years.

 

[919]

Clover, you have to consider the conference they are in. The Big 12 is the best offensive conference in the country. The only conference I would consider as good or better on offense is the Pac-12. So EVERY team is going to give up a ton of yards. WV actually gave up just 389 ypg last year. Which ranked them 3rd in defense in the Big 12 behind only OU and Texas. They held their opponents to 64 yards below their season totals LY. I don't expect them to be near that good this year, but I expect their offense to be much improved. Especially in the passing game. The team that i don't think has any business being placed in front of them is KSU. I think WV will beat KSU at home to at least claim the 6th spot. If they can get just one upset on the road they'll most likely move into the 5th spot...

You are dead on. There will be lots of high scoring games for WVU this year...if the total lines up I will be playing lots of overs with them

 

[RunLeeRun]

Bill Snyder says two former teams want back in the Big 12. Colorado and Nebraska. Both schools lost their main recruiting base in Texas when leaving. I would take them both back in a heartbeat. But I think the chances of them leaving their conferences are pretty slim. Especially Nebraska. What do you think RunLee? To me it looks like Nebraska is starting to recruit pretty well again...I don't see them leaving. Hard to see Nebraska and Texas in the same conference again after what's happened...

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...2/big-12-expansion-candidates-colorado-whaaat

The old coot was referring to Nebraska. I think besides some minor nostalgia, it amounts to very little.

 

[RunLeeRun]

Looks like Houston is in the running after all in a bizarre turn of events. What's changed you might ask? Just Texas politics.

The show of political collaboration comes at a delicate time in the academic relationship between Texas and Houston. UT System Chancellor Bill McRaven angered University of Houston officials with a surprising purchase of 332 acres south of the Texas Medical Center in Houston last year. So far, UT has yet to outline its long-term plans.
An official close to the deliberations told the American-Statesman that Houston officials have signaled they would drop opposition to the construction of a UT satellite campus on that land in exchange for help in getting into the Big 12.
“I have talked to boosters of the university who have floated that concept,” said Rep. Garnet Coleman, a Democrat who lives five blocks from the University of Houston campus. “In these circumstances, people use the tools that they have, and that’s one of the tools the University of Houston has. All’s fair in love and war.

And that is so Big 12.

 

[sendacash]

Might as well change the name to SWC if they are getting the old band back together. What about SMU and maybe Arkansas?

 

[silver7]

I'm a B10 guy, but I really miss those OU/Big Red clashes of the 60's,70's!!! Johnny Rogers OH my!!! That & the Billy Canon PR are 2 of my all time favs!!

 

[GoSooners]

The old coot was referring to Nebraska. I think besides some minor nostalgia, it amounts to very little.

I think the old man is just trying to promote the Big 12 after their expansion talks. I would like to have them, but Nebraska isn't going anywhere...

 

[GoSooners]

Looks like Houston is in the running after all in a bizarre turn of events. What's changed you might ask? Just Texas politics.

The show of political collaboration comes at a delicate time in the academic relationship between Texas and Houston. UT System Chancellor Bill McRaven angered University of Houston officials with a surprising purchase of 332 acres south of the Texas Medical Center in Houston last year. So far, UT has yet to outline its long-term plans.
An official close to the deliberations told the American-Statesman that Houston officials have signaled they would drop opposition to the construction of a UT satellite campus on that land in exchange for help in getting into the Big 12.
“I have talked to boosters of the university who have floated that concept,” said Rep. Garnet Coleman, a Democrat who lives five blocks from the University of Houston campus. “In these circumstances, people use the tools that they have, and that’s one of the tools the University of Houston has. All’s fair in love and war.

And that is so Big 12.

As always, it's all about money and exposure for UT at the expense of others. They know it would hurt OU and especially OSU's recruiting where the Houston HS system is the Pokes main recruiting area. Texas sucks! All I can hope for is the votes for allowing Houston in becomes a stalemate in votes. But I'm betting all of those other Texas schools are going to kiss UT's ass and vote Houston.

 

[GoSooners]

BYU is really wanting in the Big 12. The only way I can see things getting worked out with them is if the Big 12 accepted them in football only, since they don't play that sport on Sundays. They may be open to it, but I have my doubts the Big 12 would accept a school without requiring all of their sports participate in the conference. It would probably be a scheduling nightmare...




BYU says it would be open to football-only Big 12 membership

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While not preferred, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby has said his conference would be open to football-only membership as it pursues expansion.
That would work for BYU, too.
“We’re obviously open to listening to what they want to do. We’re going to go through this process with an open mind to listen to what they have to say,” BYU AD Tom Holmoe told ESPN.
A football-only addition of the Cougars would solve a number of problems for the Big 12:
1) The conference is starting a championship game in 2017 and, as an independent, BYU would be available immediately. Holding a title game with 10 teams is a clunky option the conference would prefer to avoid if possible, so the Cougars’ immediate availability helps both sides.
2) Adding only BYU’s football program eliminates the question of what to do with the Cougars’ no-Sundays policy.
3) Stretching a conference from Morgantown to Provo is, obviously, geographically challenging. Sending your football team across two time zones is one thing, asking your women’s basketball team to do the same on a Wednesday and turn around and play again on Saturday is something else entirely. It may serve both parties well to keep the Cougars’ Olympic sports in the West Coast Conference.
However, if the Big 12 is interested in bringing BYU aboard as an all-sports member, Holmoe is confident the two sides can make it work. After all, they’ve done it in the WAC, the Mountain West and now the WCC.
“I believe that’s something that can be worked out,” he said. “We’ve been in a lot of leagues through the years, and we’ve been able to work it out.
“There would be a difference in the Big 12 because that would be a Power 5 conference. They’re going to ask questions. We’ll have our solutions, creative ideas of what we can do. We’re going to do everything we can.”

 

[GoSooners]

A car accident has likely sidelined Texas RB Roderick Bernard for the entire 2016 season. I'm not sure how big of a loss this is because Bernard tore his ACL last year as a freshman. So he can't seem to get his career off the ground. Car accidents seem to be the running theme this season in college football..

 

[jblonghorn]

UT is outwardly lobbying for Houston because McRaven bought a ton of land in Houston in hopes of starting a new school; UTH (University of Texas at Houston). This will add over $1 billion dollars to the Houston economy. And it will help the UT system a ton too obviously. Inwardly, UT doesn't want to add more schools in the BIG XII and they know the schools outside the BIG XII aren't wanting to add another Texas school. At all. So Texas wins by lobbying for UH, and Texas wins if UH is voted down.

One thing I can guarantee you fellas; UT will not in a million years extend their GOR come 2024 (I think? Maybe 2026?). Either way, the college football world will be completely blowed up come 2025 (or 2024 or 2026). The top 60 teams will start their own super conference and will have a commissioner, separate of the NCAA so all teams will play by the rules they set forth (paying players?). The reason all these other teams (UH, Cinci, Memphis, Tulane, etc) are wanting in desperately is because they'd get a seat at the table come next round of negotiations. Right now they're SOL. The time has come for the teams that cheat to be called out. It's not fair to the teams that don't. Looking at you SEC.

 

[GoSooners]

UT is outwardly lobbying for Houston because McRaven bought a ton of land in Houston in hopes of starting a new school; UTH (University of Texas at Houston). This will add over $1 billion dollars to the Houston economy. And it will help the UT system a ton too obviously. Inwardly, UT doesn't want to add more schools in the BIG XII and they know the schools outside the BIG XII aren't wanting to add another Texas school. At all. So Texas wins by lobbying for UH, and Texas wins if UH is voted down.

One thing I can guarantee you fellas; UT will not in a million years extend their GOR come 2024 (I think? Maybe 2026?). Either way, the college football world will be completely blowed up come 2025 (or 2024 or 2026). The top 60 teams will start their own super conference and will have a commissioner, separate of the NCAA so all teams will play by the rules they set forth (paying players?). The reason all these other teams (UH, Cinci, Memphis, Tulane, etc) are wanting in desperately is because they'd get a seat at the table come next round of negotiations. Right now they're SOL. The time has come for the teams that cheat to be called out. It's not fair to the teams that don't. Looking at you SEC.

Nobody knows what the hell Texas ever wants. All I know is adding TCU has had a very negative impact on OU's recruiting in North Texas. Which has shown on the football field the last 5+ years. We don't need to be adding Houston. In fact we don't need to even be giving them any hope of joining this conference...Fucking Texas politics!

 

[GoSooners]

Oklahoma's 2016 betting prospectus from my website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yePAt2eI3To

 

[sendacash]

Nobody knows what the hell Texas ever wants. All I know is adding TCU has had a very negative impact on OU's recruiting in North Texas. Which has shown on the football field the last 5+ years. We don't need to be adding Houston. In fact we don't need to even be giving them any hope of joining this conference...Fucking Texas politics!

Texas politicos putting their noses where it don't belong is one of main reason why Colorado and probably Nebraska left the Big 12.

 

[GoSooners]

It just keeps getting better at Baylor. Rape isn't enough, they need stalkers too!

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher...cle_2ce8d092-c09a-5145-8444-1f3f7b51592f.html

 

[cloverleaf]

I may be the only SOB at this forum...but, I'm playing Baylor this season to be a
money winner over 12 games. I'll play the Bears every lined game for at least
$100.

Love the hate and disrespect for Baylor by the PUBLIC.

 

[WinOne]

It just keeps getting better at Baylor. Rape isn't enough, they need stalkers too!

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher...cle_2ce8d092-c09a-5145-8444-1f3f7b51592f.html

Texas AG getting involved. Wanting to open the report and view the findings to see what the Waco PD did not report.

 

[WinOne]

I may be the only SOB at this forum...but, I'm playing Baylor this season to be a
money winner over 12 games. I'll play the Bears every lined game for at least
$100.

Love the hate and disrespect for Baylor by the PUBLIC.

Great angle was discussing this the other day with a friend. I think there will be value.

 

[cloverleaf]

Great angle was discussing this the other day with a friend. I think there will be value.

WinOne...our gang has a lot of respect for you from what we have read. Like your opinion here also...BUT...my friend,

lost us with your pick of USC beating the hell out of Bama. AIN'T going to happen sir but too each their own.